sumfoo1 soup du hier 41043 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah i've been looking for a 9mm high-cap but i can't find it. 6/5/2012 2:02:29 PM |
jtw208 5290 Posts user info edit post |
since nobody reads the last post
Quote : | "Fumbler - do you still have the RIA you talked about in your very first post?" |
6/5/2012 3:18:50 PM |
gk2004 All American 6237 Posts user info edit post |
^^ Just picked up an older German Sig 228 and love it. 6/5/2012 6:41:33 PM |
skywalkr All American 6788 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Yeah i've been looking for a 9mm high-cap but i can't find it." |
What about an XDm? 19+1 should fit your high-cap requirement. Never been a fan of double stack 1911's or 9mm 1911's for that matter. Ones I have shot left something to be desired imo.6/5/2012 7:05:39 PM |
sumfoo1 soup du hier 41043 Posts user info edit post |
^ good to know... i think i mentioned my fave is an sti .40 edge i've shot... but i'm kinda thinking about a p226 x5 6/5/2012 8:58:54 PM |
NeuseRvrRat hello Mr. NSA! 35376 Posts user info edit post |
you ain't gonna buy shit 6/5/2012 9:15:43 PM |
sumfoo1 soup du hier 41043 Posts user info edit post |
lol ^truth... 6/5/2012 9:44:08 PM |
y0willy0 All American 7863 Posts user info edit post |
i think you should just take up cowboy action shooting. 6/5/2012 10:12:05 PM |
sumfoo1 soup du hier 41043 Posts user info edit post |
LOL FUCK YEAH! 6/6/2012 6:17:44 AM |
sumfoo1 soup du hier 41043 Posts user info edit post |
LOL FUCK YEAH! 6/6/2012 6:17:44 AM |
ThePeter TWW CHAMPION 37709 Posts user info edit post |
For those of you who use hand-loaded ammo for self-defense:
http://www.grantcunningham.com/blog_files/2167be380c971d751694131258750ec5-1028.html
Quote : | "One of the more intriguing bits was the condition of the area around the entry wound on Martin's body, leading to some speculation about the exact distance from muzzle to contact. This will, as Marty clearly points out, require ballistic testing of the gun and identical ammo to determine at what distance the test matches the evidence.
Since the court will likely not let the remaining ammunition in the gun be shot (that would be destruction of evidence), they'll need to get exemplar rounds (rounds which match exactly the ammunition used) to make those tests.
I point this out because there is still a vocal subset of people who insist that carrying handloaded ammunition for self defense is a perfectly good thing to do. (I do not know if Zimmerman did or did not; that probably won't be known until the testing progresses.) If Zimmerman did the smart thing and carried factory ammunition, all the defense will need to do is contact the manufacturer and get a box or two of the same ammunition, preferably with the same lot number. The results from firing that ammo in his gun should then match the results from the shooting, which will allow the defense to precisely determine the distance from which Martin was shot." |
6/6/2012 10:45:43 AM |
NeuseRvrRat hello Mr. NSA! 35376 Posts user info edit post |
that's no reason not to carry handloads 6/6/2012 4:32:57 PM |
kylekatern All American 3291 Posts user info edit post |
I handload Rifle and pistol used to load shotgun, but prices make it barely worth the time I record my loads
What I load is not a mystery, it is almsot always a load either directly from a loading manual, or a worked up load that is derived from such a load. These loads are ones I test, and know cycle the gun well and perform as I want them to. they are also loads that can be reproduced by almsot anyone, and I document what I load
Nobody wants mystery handloads If I find loose stuff that looks like hand loads, and it does not instantly match up to a particular type of load that I remember loading, I tear it down and throw away the powder. I only have 1 load I load with 165 gr BTSP in the .30-'06. My dad only has 1 load he loads with a Barrys Bullets plated double struck 40 SW. i admit, I carry a 9mm and a 40, and both have self defense type premium ammo that is factory loaded. However, my sister caries very nasty hand loads in her 380, and the 38 super I grew up shooting gets nothing but hand loads, same with the 357 mag. 6/6/2012 9:19:28 PM |
jtw208 5290 Posts user info edit post |
today we test fired an AK with a 9" stainless barrel. the fireball is bigger than the gun
it gives me a sincere appreciation for the big ass noveske flash hider he put on after a few shots
the guy told me he'd build me one for $600 not including the ATF stamp. thinking hard about taking him up on that... 6/6/2012 9:43:51 PM |
NeuseRvrRat hello Mr. NSA! 35376 Posts user info edit post |
what's the point? 6/6/2012 9:52:59 PM |
jtw208 5290 Posts user info edit post |
its just an alternative to a full size. this thing is about 24" long and weighs 6-7lbs
he made it mostly for the cool factor. i wanted one after shooting it but it probably wouldn't be something i'd use often 6/6/2012 11:17:08 PM |
calmac Veteran 286 Posts user info edit post |
^^Different strokes for different folks man.
[Edited on June 7, 2012 at 12:19 AM. Reason : Also, that sounds awesome ] 6/7/2012 12:18:51 AM |
sumfoo1 soup du hier 41043 Posts user info edit post |
^^ if you're looking for a fire ball make it a .308 or a 7.62x54r
not like the muzzle velocity or energy will be any higher. 6/7/2012 8:02:18 AM |
y0willy0 All American 7863 Posts user info edit post |
novelty guns dont stay novel very long. 6/7/2012 1:43:03 PM |
Dr Pepper All American 3583 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "novelty guns dont stay novel very long.
" |
...enter my Remington TAC-4..
I need to shoot more.6/7/2012 1:47:32 PM |
TheGreatTrey All American 938 Posts user info edit post |
I just applied for my concealed carry permit. I'm relatively new with guns, although I'm somewhat familiar. I was wondering what you guys recommend as a good concealed carry pistol. My buddy recommended the Ruger LCP but I didn't like shooting it. Any help is appreciated. 6/8/2012 2:51:14 AM |
ComputerGuy (IN)Sensitive 5052 Posts user info edit post |
The LCP jumps quite a bit, has a long trigger pull.
I love the LCP for one thing, the size. The size is the winner on so many levels. Life or death, its going to work just fine IMO. 6/8/2012 3:00:22 AM |
sumfoo1 soup du hier 41043 Posts user info edit post |
^ I'm confused is that supposed to be a criticism?
On my conceal gun i think i'd want a long trigger pull. It's just one more safety sorta. and any gun that's that tiny is gonna jump with anything but a .22lr. 6/8/2012 8:40:36 AM |
skywalkr All American 6788 Posts user info edit post |
I have a Kahr PM9 that I carry and I really like it. Great for pocket carry if you want to (I am not a fan) and incredibly easy to carry IWB. Great shooting gun too. I got a screaming deal on mine but if you don't want to spend as much for one you can get the CW9 which is basically the same thing without all the bells and whistles (same functionality though). 6/8/2012 8:45:33 AM |
sumfoo1 soup du hier 41043 Posts user info edit post |
I've read/watched good reviews on the Bersa guns 6/8/2012 8:58:54 AM |
NeuseRvrRat hello Mr. NSA! 35376 Posts user info edit post |
bersas are dangerous guns. i wouldn't even shoot one at the range, much less bet my life on one in a defense situation. a guy in my dad's CHP class was shooting a bersa thunder 380 and a ~1/2" piece of the muzzle end of the slide just broke off. 6/8/2012 11:44:35 AM |
sumfoo1 soup du hier 41043 Posts user info edit post |
10-4 so just get a walther version ?
or is the design just flawed? 6/8/2012 11:49:53 AM |
Restricted All American 15537 Posts user info edit post |
SIG P232 > Walther > Bersa Thunder 6/8/2012 12:03:57 PM |
sumfoo1 soup du hier 41043 Posts user info edit post |
thanks... that was the direction i'm headed for the wife so i really appreciate it.
sig it is. 6/8/2012 12:24:27 PM |
Restricted All American 15537 Posts user info edit post |
The P232 (all stainless) is my EDC; its unbelievably accurate and easy to shoot
[Edited on June 8, 2012 at 12:37 PM. Reason : ...] 6/8/2012 12:36:04 PM |
hkrock All American 1014 Posts user info edit post |
Someone should just do a "first CC gun" FAQ so we can avoid this every few pages
I would but I CC full size pistols which is not for everyone 6/8/2012 2:00:42 PM |
sumfoo1 soup du hier 41043 Posts user info edit post |
^ i will too.
I have big mitts and don't like little guns. 6/8/2012 2:04:35 PM |
NeuseRvrRat hello Mr. NSA! 35376 Posts user info edit post |
you ain't gonna buy shit 6/8/2012 3:51:35 PM |
Restricted All American 15537 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Someone should just do a "first CC gun" FAQ" |
That stuff is way too subjective.6/8/2012 4:21:04 PM |
ThePeter TWW CHAMPION 37709 Posts user info edit post |
Hey look, another compact question
Been looking at the Beretta Nano. Reviews seem to hit on its FTE issues, but you can send it in, etc. I'm leaning hard on it regardless.
However, what I'm running into now is that I see it can be somewhat uncommon and prices reporte d online are all over the place from $350 at gun shows to the MSRP of $450 or so. With my 92fs I just asked my local shop to order one and got an okay price. I'm otw to check the shop, and Charlotte isn't too far away for additional options (or hell Raleigh), but what do you people do to purchase uncommon guns? 6/8/2012 4:36:10 PM |
NeuseRvrRat hello Mr. NSA! 35376 Posts user info edit post |
i use a small local guy. he will order anything his supplier has in stock for his price +10%. there are a lot of small gun shops that operate this way.
why the beretta?
[Edited on June 8, 2012 at 6:10 PM. Reason : dsf] 6/8/2012 6:06:58 PM |
Colemania All American 1081 Posts user info edit post |
Thoughts on trading in my cz 75b (maybe 425?) for a HK USP Compact (for 575)? Opinions? 6/8/2012 8:10:23 PM |
NCSUGimp All American 24387 Posts user info edit post |
picked up a remington 1911 r1 stainless yesterday from village pawn in spadesboro
hopefully going shooting tomorrow
BOOOM BITCH. 6/9/2012 3:53:23 PM |
NeuseRvrRat hello Mr. NSA! 35376 Posts user info edit post |
lol Remington 6/9/2012 5:21:26 PM |
ThePeter TWW CHAMPION 37709 Posts user info edit post |
The Beretta Nano is single stack 9mm (which I've been looking for) and reviews say that it fires very smoothly; it draws comparisons to how a Glock fires and is often called the mini gun that Glock hasn't made yet. The gun itself has no protrusions to get caught on. People say it is favorable over the Ruger LC9 (which I've also been looking at) in terms of trigger pull. Its supposedly comparable to the Kahr P9, a little smaller and heavier but more solid.
You can also change the grips, but, whatevs.
Reviews say that it has problems with failure to eject, but only comes up when using cheap ammo (115gr). I've seen that Beretta has identified and corrected the problem and you can send in your gun to have the ejector or extractor replaced. 6/9/2012 6:11:44 PM |
NeuseRvrRat hello Mr. NSA! 35376 Posts user info edit post |
I think S&W recently came out with a single stack 9 that you may want to look at as well. 6/9/2012 6:37:56 PM |
skywalkr All American 6788 Posts user info edit post |
I would have a hard time getting any gun that a decent number of reviews saying there are problems with it feeding/ejecting properly, especially if I wanted to CC it. Not sure why you would be hung up on that gun when there are plenty of others out there that have pretty solid reputations. 6/9/2012 6:57:02 PM |
Hiro All American 4673 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.grantcunningham.com/blog_files/2167be380c971d751694131258750ec5-1028.html
Quote : | "One of the more intriguing bits was the condition of the area around the entry wound on Martin's body, leading to some speculation about the exact distance from muzzle to contact. This will, as Marty clearly points out, require ballistic testing of the gun and identical ammo to determine at what distance the test matches the evidence.
Since the court will likely not let the remaining ammunition in the gun be shot (that would be destruction of evidence), they'll need to get exemplar rounds (rounds which match exactly the ammunition used) to make those tests.
I point this out because there is still a vocal subset of people who insist that carrying handloaded ammunition for self defense is a perfectly good thing to do. (I do not know if Zimmerman did or did not; that probably won't be known until the testing progresses.) If Zimmerman did the smart thing and carried factory ammunition, all the defense will need to do is contact the manufacturer and get a box or two of the same ammunition, preferably with the same lot number. The results from firing that ammo in his gun should then match the results from the shooting, which will allow the defense to precisely determine the distance from which Martin was shot." |
Maybe it's already been said, but here's what I don't like about this. Factory loads (unless match grade) have varying tollerances. I don't know how much these tollerances (powder weight, bullet weight, OAL, etc) factor into their calculations in determining the distance of the shooting as it probably doesn't matter, but I know that the handloads I batch are often within the margin of error provided by my measuring devices, which is 0.0005" OAL and 0.05gr. Yes I spend a lot of time trying to perfect my rounds, though I understand it really doesn't matter It's like the brass is the zen garden holder and the powder my sand
[Edited on June 9, 2012 at 7:22 PM. Reason : .]6/9/2012 7:22:34 PM |
ThePeter TWW CHAMPION 37709 Posts user info edit post |
^^^Cool, I'll look into it.
^^Other than that (which is a still a big issue) everyone that handles it seems to love it, plus it is an issue that is fixable. I am still looking around and its something that has piqued my interest. I have yet to hold it, so hopefully a shop around here will have some stuff in stock to test out. I was at Eagle 1 a few weekends ago and held a bunch of their CC pistols but sadly all of the names flew in one ear and out the other since I was just killing time before my range slot opened. 6/9/2012 10:12:35 PM |
NCSUGimp All American 24387 Posts user info edit post |
put 150 rounds through the remington today, nice shooting but was low
forums say it's been a problem since they came out; with the front sight being too high
[Edited on June 10, 2012 at 8:28 PM. Reason : awdf] 6/10/2012 8:26:48 PM |
NeuseRvrRat hello Mr. NSA! 35376 Posts user info edit post |
RMSJ 6/10/2012 10:32:23 PM |
theDuke866 All American 52839 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "My buddy recommended the Ruger LCP but I didn't like shooting it. Any help is appreciated." |
Quote : | " I love the LCP for one thing, the size. " |
Yep, there's nothing pleasant about shooting an LCP...or a TCP...or a P3AT. That wasn't much of a design consideration--the point of those pistols is tiny, tiny size, so they can be very easily carried and so they can be concealed almost anywhere. You give up some other things (ergonomics, ammo capacity, sight radius in order to get that. If that's what you need, then great. If you don't need anything that small, get something else.
(I have a P3AT)6/10/2012 10:41:13 PM |
Biofreak70 All American 33197 Posts user info edit post |
they are an incredible pain to shoot- every time I've fired one of those micro guys, it feels like they are about to fly out of my hand. I mean, I can control it, and put lead on paper, but it is not something I enjoy shooting and fully understand it's purpose. My smallest pistol that I CC and feel good shooting (still a bit rough to hold onto with ape hands, but much better than these^), is my S&W 642 6/11/2012 8:24:37 AM |
wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
I have no problems shooting my LCP.
6/11/2012 10:12:58 AM |
sumfoo1 soup du hier 41043 Posts user info edit post |
capacity looks to be improved too. 6/11/2012 10:16:21 AM |