wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
I like the pinky rest on the magazine base plate 6/11/2012 10:24:45 AM |
Biofreak70 All American 33197 Posts user info edit post |
6/11/2012 10:26:00 AM |
sumfoo1 soup du hier 41043 Posts user info edit post |
I wonder why no one makes lever action long range rifles in like .338 lapua or .300 win mag.
Seems like it would be faster then operating the bolt with similar characteristics to a bolt gun. 6/11/2012 12:23:17 PM |
y0willy0 All American 7863 Posts user info edit post |
browning makes a BLR lever in 300 mag and 338 (not lapua). 6/11/2012 12:29:45 PM |
NeuseRvrRat hello Mr. NSA! 35376 Posts user info edit post |
go try to cycle a lever gun without taking the rifle off the bench and you'll know why 6/11/2012 12:33:42 PM |
sumfoo1 soup du hier 41043 Posts user info edit post |
lol i know but off a bi-pod it works fine. 6/11/2012 12:57:52 PM |
NeuseRvrRat hello Mr. NSA! 35376 Posts user info edit post |
depends on how high the bipod is
[Edited on June 11, 2012 at 4:03 PM. Reason : i doubt you'd be able to cycle a lever gun laying prone off a bipod or bags] 6/11/2012 3:53:26 PM |
hkrock All American 1014 Posts user info edit post |
Levers are almost specifically designed for rimmed cartridges and rarely ever for high-pressure rounds with a few exceptions like the BLR.
Also, a bolt-action is able to be machined with tighter tolerances. Additionally like mentioned above, long-range setups are best fired from a front and rear rest, which makes operating a lever action virtually impossible.
[Edited on June 11, 2012 at 5:14 PM. Reason : BLR] 6/11/2012 5:13:48 PM |
y0willy0 All American 7863 Posts user info edit post |
a 300 mag in a lever gun is just silly. its primarily a long range cartridge and i think in this application its mainly intended to be a "30-06 magnum," which it essentially is.
meaning blasting bears etc at short range but taking advantage of the wide selection of 30 cal bullets.
plenty of better choices for this job in a lever gun, like a 45-70. 6/11/2012 6:55:59 PM |
wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
Everyone needs to contact their senator and Phil Berger if you want HB 111 (Restaurant Carry) to get a vote. 6/12/2012 7:58:19 AM |
sumfoo1 soup du hier 41043 Posts user info edit post |
What's the best range around raleigh to rent a variety of hand guns at?
Time to get the wife shooting. 6/12/2012 8:38:05 AM |
wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
PDHSC? Are there any others in Raleigh anymore?
Maybe Eagle 1 has reopened their range?
[Edited on June 12, 2012 at 9:29 AM. Reason : .] 6/12/2012 9:27:36 AM |
jtw208 5290 Posts user info edit post |
the range at eagle 1 is open. I prefer shooting there vs PDHSC (less ricochets, nicer staff IMO) 6/12/2012 9:52:55 AM |
sumfoo1 soup du hier 41043 Posts user info edit post |
n/m camp carbine...
[Edited on June 12, 2012 at 1:22 PM. Reason : .] 6/12/2012 1:10:43 PM |
Fumbler All American 4670 Posts user info edit post |
Lever actions usually aren't chambered for high performance cartridges because of the way the actions lock up. The bolts/locking blocks just aren't strong enough and making one beefy enough would make it weigh so much that you might as well get a bolt gun. Early 500 s&w chamberings in lever guns had problems with bolts shearing. Aside from safety and accuracy issues you'd have tough extraction. Bolt guns are inherently more accurate too. A lot of people don't think a lever gun with a box mag is right either and putting spitzer shaped bullets in a tube mag makes a lot of people nervous. 6/12/2012 1:25:06 PM |
lewoods All American 3526 Posts user info edit post |
If your wife wants to get the basics in a classroom I highly recommend the wake county concealed carry class. They have a women's only one that was really small and the instructors were friendly and welcomed questions. 6/12/2012 1:27:20 PM |
sumfoo1 soup du hier 41043 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah we're going to do that together. I'm going to get my CC permit too, I don't have mine yet. (i also don't plan on carrying) 6/12/2012 2:47:37 PM |
lewoods All American 3526 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah, but the CC class isn't that much more time/expense than the regular intro one and then you can apply for one if you want to. I wanted to get mine for hiking/camping. 6/12/2012 3:04:24 PM |
MaximaDrvr
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Picked this up for $160 OTD today. Needs some cleaning up, and I may refinish it, but it passes all the function checks. .22lr and .22mag cylinders
[Edited on June 13, 2012 at 4:56 PM. Reason : .] 6/13/2012 4:56:15 PM |
y0willy0 All American 7863 Posts user info edit post |
let me know how that thing does.
ive been interested in them but already have a ruger. im curious about the quality.
good deal. 6/13/2012 8:23:30 PM |
Restricted All American 15537 Posts user info edit post |
Went through about 800 rounds of .40 today; tomorrow should be about the same. 6/13/2012 8:38:31 PM |
MaximaDrvr
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I'll be running about 350 rounds of .40, 350 of .223, and hopefully some .308 on Saturday. 6/13/2012 10:07:26 PM |
Fumbler All American 4670 Posts user info edit post |
^^^^how's the trigger? 6/14/2012 1:29:19 AM |
MaximaDrvr
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Feels pretty good from just playing with it. A very light and crisp break. I'm guessing around 2 lbs. I won't be able to shoot it for a couple weeks most likely. 6/14/2012 10:27:31 AM |
sumfoo1 soup du hier 41043 Posts user info edit post |
Does silencing a super-sonic round firing gun do anything without altering the load to be sub-sonic?
I mean, i know it's still loud but does it make the shot more difficult to locate the origen ?
(i saw a silenced model 700 sniper variant and wondered) 6/14/2012 11:46:06 AM |
DoubleDown All American 9382 Posts user info edit post |
Yes it makes it harder to locate the source of the sound, as well as eliminating the flash 6/14/2012 11:52:19 AM |
hkrock All American 1014 Posts user info edit post |
We use them on 10-inch uppers to lessen over pressure inside rooms 6/14/2012 2:31:37 PM |
MaximaDrvr
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New lower built. Magpul MIAD grip Magpul UBR stock Magpul BAD lever Brownells enhanced trigger guard Timney 3lb single stage trigger USA Tactical Lower w/ custom engraving
I just need to color fill the engraving in FDE and it will be done.
6/14/2012 3:56:12 PM |
dave421 All American 1391 Posts user info edit post |
Anyone familiar with Virginia's CCW laws compared to NC? I'm heading up there next weekend for a camping trip with some buddies and just realized that I don't know what's different. 6/17/2012 6:25:18 PM |
MaximaDrvr
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You can open carry in places that serve alcohol, but not CC. 6/17/2012 6:39:26 PM |
jtw208 5290 Posts user info edit post |
I'm under the impression that licensed CC is legal in VA restaurants/bars as long as you do not consume alcohol:
Quote : | "§18.2-308 (J.3.): No person who carries a concealed handgun onto the premises of any restaurant or club as defined in § 4.1-100 for which a license to sell and serve alcoholic beverages for on-premises consumption has been granted by the Virginia Alcoholic Beverage Control Board under Title 4.1 of the Code of Virginia; may consume an alcoholic beverage while on the premises. A person who carries a concealed handgun onto the premises of such a restaurant or club and consumes alcoholic beverages is guilty of a Class 2 misdemeanor." |
VA State Police6/18/2012 8:24:00 AM |
MaximaDrvr
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That law is recent then. I guess they got it passed in the last year or so. 6/18/2012 9:25:45 AM |
wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
Yeh, I'm pretty sure VA passed restaurant carry a few years ago.
2010
http://www.opposingviews.com/i/gov-bob-mcdonnell-signs-virginia-restaurant-carry-into-law
[Edited on June 18, 2012 at 9:37 AM. Reason : .] 6/18/2012 9:34:59 AM |
MaximaDrvr
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2 years is recent.
Last time I visited VA was for an OC meetup, and we were discussing how nice it would be if VA would change their laws. I guess it happened. 6/18/2012 9:42:14 AM |
NeuseRvrRat hello Mr. NSA! 35376 Posts user info edit post |
NC needs to get on-board 6/18/2012 2:04:00 PM |
wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
^call Berger and Apodaca and tell them so. 6/18/2012 2:12:38 PM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
Anyone ever shoot a Sig 556? 6/18/2012 2:27:51 PM |
MaximaDrvr
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I didn't shoot it, but the guy next to me in my class saturday was shooting one. 6/18/2012 6:49:11 PM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
Ok, cool. That answers all of my question. Thanks bro. 6/18/2012 6:58:47 PM |
MaximaDrvr
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Do you have any other questions than have you shot one? That is the only question I saw.
[Edited on June 18, 2012 at 7:11 PM. Reason : .] 6/18/2012 7:11:33 PM |
gk2004 All American 6237 Posts user info edit post |
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[Edited on June 18, 2012 at 8:28 PM. Reason : .] 6/18/2012 8:26:30 PM |
y0willy0 All American 7863 Posts user info edit post |
it seems my blackhawk rear sight is drifted all the way to the right just to hit my 12 inch plates at 50 yards.
its a 44mag, the first ive ever owned, and i was under the impression this is quite an accurate cartridge at 100 yards and less (nice speed for the weight).
so whats the deal? ruger quality for me has always been up there. i know if something was drastically wrong they would fix it at no charge.
but id still like opinions here? front sight cannot be adjusted as far as i know. could be filed down if needed, but elevation isnt the problem.
i wish i knew what ammo they zeroed it with from the factory; it wasnt even close the first time i shot it. should i fire a couple hundred rounds before worrying? it should be broken in by then no? i dont buy too many brand new guns, so sorry for 20 questions.
thanks! 6/18/2012 8:38:31 PM |
gk2004 All American 6237 Posts user info edit post |
100 yards is no problem for my Redhawk in .44. I typically shoot 240g WWB JHP. Were you on a bench or free hand? I bought mine used so I dont know how bad the sights were when it left the factory. The Ruger message board has been usefull to me in the past, might want to start there. I do know that Ruger will stand behind their products 100%, no questions asked. 6/19/2012 8:22:22 AM |
Fumbler All American 4670 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "its a 44mag, the first ive ever owned, and i was under the impression this is quite an accurate cartridge at 100 yards and less (nice speed for the weight)." |
The cartridge itself can be very accurate. Sounds like you have a problem with the gun
Is the barrel clocked off center? Hold the gun out in front of you like you would shoot it. Does the front sight appear to be in line with the rest of the gun or does it look like the sight is perpendicular to the barrel but the barrel is turned? Is the front sight crooked on the barrel?
Has anyone else shot it and gotten the same result?
If you have to max out the windage on a revolver then the usual cause is the barrel isn't screwed into the frame such that the top of the barrel lines up with the top of the frame. Another common cause is the front sight post isn't perpendicular to the barrel. I've also seen rear sights mounted crooked on all sorts of guns. I have a Ruger MKIII 22/45 with its rear sight dovetail milled at about 1-2 minutes past 12 oclock. The gun works fine but it drives me insane sometimes if I think about it too much.
The best thing to do is have someone else shoot it. If it still shoots the same then contact Ruger and have them figure it out and fix it. If you don't want to send it back you can buy an oversized front sight and mount it yourself then file it down til the windage is where you want it.
[Edited on June 19, 2012 at 1:59 PM. Reason : ]6/19/2012 1:57:51 PM |
sumfoo1 soup du hier 41043 Posts user info edit post |
other than nightforce,leupold,swarovski, and ziess what scopes do yall like...
aka what scopes do you like under $1000. 6/19/2012 4:22:48 PM |
raiden All American 10505 Posts user info edit post |
Need a place to shoot my M1 Garand, any suggestions? I'm in the Raleigh area. 6/19/2012 4:30:46 PM |
DoubleDown All American 9382 Posts user info edit post |
trijicon makes quality stuff 6/19/2012 4:31:20 PM |
NeuseRvrRat hello Mr. NSA! 35376 Posts user info edit post |
^^ http://encfiringrange.com/
about an hour from raleigh. has several 100 yd rifle lanes with benches and a 275 yd rifle range around back. 6/19/2012 5:05:07 PM |
y0willy0 All American 7863 Posts user info edit post |
^^^^^well goddamn, i dont think im seeing things just because you told me to look at it, but i swear it looks like the barrel is rotated slightly off center.
looking down the barrel like im going to shoot it, it indeed looks to be leaning left slightly.
that would explain rear sight drifted far right no?
shit. 6/19/2012 7:17:21 PM |
y0willy0 All American 7863 Posts user info edit post |
well fuck, seems canted ruger barrels are fairly common.
looks like ill head to my local shop tomorrow and shoot it one more time just to be sure, and let one of their guys shoot it as well.
i should only have to pay postage knowing ruger. 6/19/2012 8:29:17 PM |