Salisburyboy, you do know that facts have to be supported by evidence right? You have no evidence, therefore you have no facts.

2/22/2004 5:30:04 PM

Quote :

"it is a FACT....supported by the evidence."

i'm sorry, man, but your "evidence" does not come close to my "evidence". i have personally talked to firefighters that were at the scene. now, who should i believe, them or People magazine??

2/22/2004 6:56:09 PM

NY City Council Opposes Patriot Act

Quote :

"New York City has joined cities as large as Chicago and communities as small as Castle Valley, Utah as one of the 256 municipalities or states to officially voice its opposition to the USA PATRIOT Act. In Oct. 2001, the USA PATRIOT Act passed in both houses of the Congress, extending the government's powers in hopes to prevent acts of terrorism such as the World Trade Center attacks. Since then, the legislation has faced fervent and increasingly mainstream opposition from civil liberties, ethnic, and political groups of all varieties. On Feb. 4, the New York City Council passed Resolution 60, which reaffirmed basic civil liberties and rights that were unduly infringed upon by "certain federal policies adopted since September 11, 2001, including certain provisions in the USA PATRIOT Act." http://www.columbiaspectator.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2004/02/19/40347d80daa65"

2/22/2004 10:04:11 PM

PrisonPlanet.com's 9/11 Archive:

http://www.prisonplanet.com/911.html

This is a vast archive of information, including FBI/CIA ties to the "hijackers", government prior knowledge of 9/11, the stand down of military interceptors, evidence of bombs in the twin towers, and more:

2/22/2004 10:10:29 PM

do u wanna bwn this Alex Jones guy or something? you give him so much credit as knowing the truth and possessing all these "real" files and information.

now with that in mind,

STOP GIVING US LINKS TO YOUR CONSPIRACY SOURCES, START WITH REAL FUCKING SOURCES!!!!!!

2/22/2004 10:34:42 PM

Quote :

"STOP GIVING US LINKS TO YOUR CONSPIRACY SOURCES, START WITH REAL FUCKING SOURCES!!!!!! --brianj320"

If you took the time to actually look at the articles linked in prisonplanet.com's 9/11 Archive, you would notice that a very large majority of the articles are from "mainstream" news sources.

Note: I don't believe that "mainstream" news organizations are the only "real" sources.

[Edited on February 22, 2004 at 11:40 PM. Reason : ..]

2/22/2004 11:32:51 PM

WHy don't you respond to the obvious flaws in your theories that people have pointed out?

2/23/2004 1:14:03 AM

^i second that emotion

2/23/2004 1:20:15 AM

Quote :

"WHy don't you respond to the obvious flaws in your theories that people have pointed out?"

I'm not focussing on theories here. I'm foccussing on the FACTS.

Such as these facts....the military interceptors were stood down on 9/11....Larry Silverstein admitted that WTC 7 was brought down in a controlled demolition...eywitnesses reported hearing bombs going off in the twin towers... hardly any (if any) debris of a Boeing 757 was found at the Pentagon...the damage at the Pentagon is not consistent with a Boeing 757 crash into the building....S.F. mayor Willie Brown and members of Congress were warned not to fly on 9/11....etc, etc, etc

The points made by those you say have discovered "flaws" do NOTHING to refute these facts or the fact that the U.S. government had prior knowledge of 9/11 and was complicit in the attacks of 9/11.

I'm not going to waste my time responding to stupid questions and points that distract from the issue or are so silly that they aren't worth responding to.

[Edited on February 23, 2004 at 1:33 AM. Reason : ..]

2/23/2004 1:26:58 AM

its easy to believe something when your too arrogant to consider flaws. your picture of the two buildings is one. your comment that began this thread is completely false FROM THE FACT THAT LIVE TELEVISION AND WITNESSES HAVE GEORGE W BUSH IN A ROOM WITH CHILDREN 9/11. i can under believing in conspiracy theories, but you seem obsessive. take time and at least consider peoples agruments on here. its not a coincidence that no one on here agrees with you. its easy to make an argument when you pick and choose statements from the last 3 years.

2/23/2004 1:45:28 AM

Quote :

"I'm not going to waste my time responding to stupid questions and points that distract from the issue or are so silly that they aren't worth responding to."

You haven't even responded to something as simple as there obviously only being one building in the "video" clip with "mystery explosion".

Let me refresh your memory:

and

2/23/2004 9:27:22 AM

Quote :

"I'm not going to waste my time responding to stupid questions and points that distract from the issue or are so silly that they aren't worth responding to questions that I have no answers to because I have no thoughts of my own and they would take away from my copy/paste time and the energy I have to stroke whatever my hand can reach"

Sorry, thought a gibberish translator was in order.

And while I'm here...

Quote :

"If you took the time to actually look at the articles linked in prisonplanet.com's 9/11 Archive, you would notice that a very large majority of the articles are from "mainstream" news sources. Note: I don't believe that "mainstream" news organizations are the only "real" sources. "

I thought you didn't believe that they were valid sources at all.

Something you posted earlier from you vast quote repoitare:

Quote :

""There is no such thing, at this date of the world’s history, in America, as an independent press. You know it and I know it… The business of the Journalist is to destroy truth; To lie outright; To pervert; To vilify; To fawn at the feet of mammon, and to sell his country and his race for his daily bread. You know it and I know it and what folly is this toasting an independent press? We are the tools and vassals for rich men behind the scenes. We are the jumping jacks, they pull the strings and we dance. Our talents, our possibilities and or lives are all the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes." – John Swinton, former Chief of Staff, The New York Times, circa 1880 "

I'm ignoring the fact that this quote has been proven to be a hoax, 'cause it does get you view of the mass media across, right? Oh wait, stupid me, you only believe in what you say when it suits you.

And the flaws people are pointing out refute your little theory (oops, fact ) about the government being complicit because they blow holes in your evidence big enough to drive a Mack Truck through. Now, if you could actually RESPOND to them, you'd be able to patch up those holes. But, since you appear to have the intellectual capacity of a kumquat, the holes will stay there.

Either respond to people or stuff it, twit.

[Edited on February 23, 2004 at 11:08 AM. Reason : .]

2/23/2004 11:07:27 AM

Quote :

"Either respond to people or stuff it, twit --Shrimp"

I'm have absolutely no obligation to respond to anyone here. I will respond when I wish.

[Edited on February 23, 2004 at 12:54 PM. Reason : ..]

2/23/2004 12:53:29 PM

FBI Knew Terrorists Were Using Flight Schools (Washington Post article)

Quote :

"Federal authorities have been aware for years that suspected terrorists with ties to Osama bin Laden were receiving flight training at schools in the United States and abroad, according to interviews and court testimony. Three days after the attack on the Pentagon and the World Trade Center, FBI Director Robert S. Mueller III described reports that several of the hijackers had received flight training in the United States as "news, quite obviously," adding, "If we had understood that to be the case, we would have -- perhaps one could have averted this." A senior government official yesterday acknowledged law enforcement officials were aware that fewer than a dozen people with links to bin Laden had attended U.S. flight schools. However, the official said there was no information to indicate the flight students had been planning suicide hijacking attacks. "We were unable to marry any information from investigations or the intelligence community that talked to their use of this expertise in the events that we saw unfold on the 11th," the official said. Connections between terrorists and flight training include the following: In 1996, two flight school operators said last week, FBI agents visited them to obtain information about several Arab pilots connected to a Pakistani terrorist eventually convicted of plotting to bomb U.S. airliners. http://propagandamatrix.com/fbi_knew_terrorists_using_flight_schools.html"

[Edited on February 23, 2004 at 1:03 PM. Reason : ..]

2/23/2004 1:03:04 PM

Hijackers 'trailed by CIA before attacks' (Guardian article):

Quote :

"Two of the hijackers who crashed American Airlines flight 77 into the Pentagon were spotted as potential terrorists by the CIA more than 18 months before September 11, Newsweek reported yesterday. It called this "the most puzzling, and devastating,intelligence failure" in the period before attacks. The magazine reports in its new issue, out yesterday, that US intelligence spotted both men at an al-Qaida summit in January 2000, tracked at least one of them as he flew to Los Angeles - and then did nothing with the information. The agency did not tell either immigration officials or the FBI. The movements of the men, Khalid Almihdhar and Nawaf Alhazmi, could have been monitored easily as they lived openly in the US, apparently under their real names. The two reportedly took flying lessons in San Diego, where their instructor later said they were only interested in flying big jets http://propagandamatrix.com/Hijackers_trailed_by_CIA_before_attacks.htm"

2/23/2004 1:10:01 PM

Quote :

"I'm not going to waste my time responding to stupid questions and points that distract from the issue or are so silly that they aren't worth responding to."

You haven't even responded to something as simple as there obviously only being one building in the "video" clip with "mystery explosion".

Let me refresh your memory:

and

2/23/2004 1:11:24 PM

FBI Informant Lived With the "Hijackers" (MSNBC article):

Quote :

"At first, FBI director Bob Mueller insisted there was nothing the bureau could have done to penetrate the 9-11 plot. That account has been modified over time—and now may change again. NEWSWEEK has learned that one of the bureau’s informants had a close relationship with two of the hijackers: he was their roommate. The connection, just discovered by congressional investigators, has stunned some top counterterrorism officials and raised new concerns about the information-sharing among U.S. law-enforcement and intelligence agencies. The two hijackers, Khalid Almihdhar and Nawaf Alhazmi, were hardly unknown to the intelligence community. http://www.propagandamatrix.com/the_informant_who_lived_with_the_hijackers.htm"

2/23/2004 1:21:25 PM

^^he's ignoring you and living in a bubble

2/23/2004 1:27:16 PM

well lets see...salisbury has posted some weblinks, a few interesting but probably unsupported claims. People have insulted him, questioned his sanity/intelligence/etc, demanded he support his claims against what they have said to denounce him, and salisbury has refused to do so.

So if all is going according to schedule, salisbury should post a few more webpages, maybe one or two more arguments against his claims from someone, and then salis will post some meaningless, out-of-context quotes of famous people that have nothing to do with the discussion.

Then we'll start all over again. Did I leave anything out?

2/23/2004 1:28:00 PM

Pentagon officials cancel flights for Sept. 11th on Sept. 10th, 2001 (MSNBC article):

--> see 5th paragraph from the bottom

Quote :

"On Sept. 10, NEWSWEEK has learned, a group of top Pentagon officials suddenly canceled travel plans for the next morning, apparently because of security concerns. http://propagandamatrix.com/pentagon_officials_safe.htm"

[Edited on February 23, 2004 at 1:30 PM. Reason : ..]

2/23/2004 1:28:44 PM

nice job ignoring what everyone said again

2/23/2004 1:36:48 PM

the fact is he not answering some of these very logical, practical, need to know questions is because the answers he will give will disprove all his ramblings for the past 16 pages. so he chooses to ignore them that way he will still keep his ego alive and thriving. personally i think he gets off to this shit cause he thinks he knows everything when he doesn't have the slightest clue about what he is talking about. (see his "theories" that violate the laws of physics and engineering).

Quote :

"well lets see...salisbury has posted some weblinks, a few interesting but probably unsupported claims. People have insulted him, questioned his sanity/intelligence/etc, demanded he support his claims against what they have said to denounce him, and salisbury has refused to do so. So if all is going according to schedule, salisbury should post a few more webpages, maybe one or two more arguments against his claims from someone, and then salis will post some meaningless, out-of-context quotes of famous people that have nothing to do with the discussion. Then we'll start all over again. Did I leave anything out? - methos"

you are 100% exactly correct. you are so correct, that you should have your own scientific theory and proof based on that info. btw, I'm not being sarcastic at all. i totally agree with you.

2/23/2004 1:39:48 PM

Bush was going to sign plans for a world-wide war on al-Qaida 2 days before 9/11. (MSNBC article)

Quote :

"President Bush was expected to sign detailed plans for a worldwide war against al-Qaida two days before Sept. 11 but did not have the chance before the terrorist attacks in New York and Washington, U.S. and foreign sources told NBC News. http://propagandamatrix.com/US_planned_for_attack_on_al-Qaida.htm"

2/23/2004 1:44:32 PM

its called having GENERAL evidence that a terrorist plot was going to be carried out on a major city. but they didnt know when, and where, and how. they had evidence that it was just gonna happen. so therefore, knowing that, they would obviously have a plan of action to go to war before it happened that way they would be prepared to go if and when it happened.

btw, kudos to ignoring me and everyone other logical person in this thread.

2/23/2004 1:55:15 PM

U.S. war in Afghanistan results in increased opium production:

Quote :

"HEROIN production in Afghanistan has soared by up to 1400 per cent since the war on terror and the fall of the Taliban, a drugs conference will hear today. The United Nations Drug Control Programme estimates the "total likely yield" of this year’s opium poppy crop will be between 1900 and 2700 metric tons, compared with 185 tons last year. Afghanistan’s vast opium poppy harvest is said to account for 90 per cent of the highly-addictive drug sold on Britain’s streets. The collapse of the Taliban triggered the massive rise because poppy growing was banned by the regime in July 2000, leading to a fall of 95 per cent in the size of last year’s crop. http://www.propagandamatrix.com/heroin_harvest_in_afghanistan_soars.htm"

[Edited on February 23, 2004 at 1:57 PM. Reason : ..]

2/23/2004 1:55:59 PM

Photographs Suggest Bombs in the Twin Towers



http://www.propagandamatrix.com/twin_towers_bombed.html

[Edited on February 23, 2004 at 2:01 PM. Reason : ..]

2/23/2004 2:00:46 PM

you are so ignorant it is beyond belief. this is supposed to be a discussion and its not. you ignore everything everyone says and keep posting these links and this bull. you post the same stuff over and over and dont even provide an argument; you just quote and that is it.

2/23/2004 2:05:51 PM

^^ Thats what happen as floors collapse and the air and debris gets shot out the windows. Take a drink box, poke holes in it then quickly put pieces of tape over them to stop the leaking. Take a brick and drop it on said juice box and watch. amazing isn't it. THe seals blow and shit shoots out the sides as the tower, i mean juice box, collapses.

Quote :

"I'm not going to waste my time responding to stupid questions and points that distract from the issue or are so silly that they aren't worth responding to."

You haven't even responded to something as simple as there obviously only being one building in the "video" clip with "mystery explosion".

Let me refresh your memory:

and

2/23/2004 2:10:26 PM

Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney speaks out:

Quote :

"Cynthia McKinney appeared to feel vindicated Thursday, after revelations that the Bush administration had warnings before Sept. 11 about possible airplane hijackings. A few weeks ago, the Democratic congresswoman from DeKalb County drew widespread criticism for suggesting on a radio show that the administration had prior knowledge of the attack. On Thursday, McKinney explained what it was like to be ridiculed. "I was derided by the White House, right-wing talk radio, and spokespersons for the military-industrial complex as a conspiracy theorist," McKinney said in a one-page statement. "Even my patriotism was questioned because I dared to suggest that Congress should conduct a full and complete investigation into the most disastrous intelligence failure in American history." McKinney vowed to continue to express her opinions and reissued a call for a congressional probe. "Today's revelations that the administration, and President Bush, were given months of notice that a terrorist attack was a distinct possibility points out the critical need for a full and complete congressional investigation." She accused the Bush administration of engaging in "a conspiracy of silence" by opposing congressional hearings. "If committed and patriotic people had not been pushing for disclosure, today's revelations would have been hidden by the White House," she said. "Ever since I came to Congress in 1992, there are those who have been trying to silence my voice. I've been told to "sit down and shut up" over and over again. Well, I won't sit down and I won't shut up until the full and unvarnished truth is placed before the American people." http://propagandamatrix.com/mckinney_says_she_wont_shut_up.htm"

2/23/2004 2:32:47 PM

Professor's class to attempt to deride those who want to investigate the facts backfires:

Quote :

"That kind of thinking has fueled questions about possible conspiracies from his own students. He said such issues as moves by the Justice Department to gain more power for investigators and prosecutors and to curtail individual rights, and the request by the Pentagon for the largest spending increase in two decades have caused some of his students to begin to question whether the administration could have had a hand in Sept. 11. http://propagandamatrix.com/what_consensus.htm"

...hillarious article...count how many times the author used the terms "conspiracy theories", "conspiracy theorist", etc...

[Edited on February 23, 2004 at 2:52 PM. Reason : ..]

2/23/2004 2:48:14 PM

im done posting on this thread. i am begining to think you do this for shock value and just to piss people off. no one with common sense believes this stuff. post another irrelevant quote and pictures of "bombs". good luck with life, sals

2/23/2004 3:23:19 PM

Quote :

"Quote : "Either respond to people or stuff it, twit --Shrimp" I'm have absolutely no obligation to respond to anyone here. I will respond when I wish. "

Yeah, you're free to do that. Just understand that all you're doing is making yourself look more and more like a twit 'cause you can' back your shit up and you can't respond to people.

If you can't provide proper evidence, and you can't respond to questions people raise about your evidence, or inconsistencies they point out, then no one you're talking to has any reason to think that you are anything but the biggest moron to ever walk the earth.

2/23/2004 3:24:35 PM

any website with name propagandamatrix cannot be taken as fact

2/23/2004 3:45:06 PM

Quote :

"I'm not going to waste my time responding to stupid questions and points that distract from the issue or are so silly that they aren't worth responding to."

You haven't even responded to something as simple as there obviously only being one building in the "video" clip with "mystery explosion".

Let me refresh your memory:

and
[/quote]

[Edited on February 23, 2004 at 4:12 PM. Reason : .]

2/23/2004 4:11:19 PM

^please answer the mans question....if you do, feel free to post 1000000 quotes on here. we wont badger anymore

2/23/2004 4:14:59 PM

The government claimed after 9/11 that it "had no idea" planes could be used as missiles to crash them into buildings. The evidence proves such claims were complete lies.

Quote :

"When September 11th prior knowledge broke in the mainstream media, around May 2002, most of it focused on the use of planes as bombs and whether or not intelligence agencies had considered this method of attack. Although the coverage was a whitewash in itself, it can easily be proven that authorities knew terrorists were likely to use airliners as bombs. Once this is known, those that gave press conferences denying the jetliners as bombs foreknowledge, such as Condoleeza Rice, George Tenet and George Bush, can be exposed as outright liars. In October 2000, the Pentagon conducted a series of simulations (pictured) designed to test the response to a commercial airliner crashing into their headquarters, as took place on September 11th. The CIA, on the very morning of September 11th, was also conducting a mock exercise where a plane crashes into its headquarters. The US was warned in 1995 of a plot to hijack commercial planes and slam them into the Pentagon and the World Trade Center. The plan was named Project Bojinka and was uncovered by Phillipine authorities. It originated with Ramzi Yousef (pictured), one of the masterminds of the first WTC bombing in 1993. The information was passed on to the FBI who totally ignored it. U.S. and Italian officials were warned in July that Islamic terrorists might attempt to kill President Bush and other leaders by crashing an airliner into the Genoa summit of industrialized nations. They went so far as to mount anti-aircraft guns at the city's airport. The Echelon spy network also gave British and German intelligence clear information that terrorists were going to hijack commercial planes and use them to attack symbols of American culture. http://www.propagandamatrix.com/911_redux.html"

[Edited on February 23, 2004 at 10:09 PM. Reason : ..]

2/23/2004 10:04:36 PM

Really...

Quote :

"I'm not going to waste my time responding to stupid questions and points that distract from the issue or are so silly that they aren't worth responding to."

You haven't even responded to something as simple as there obviously only being one building in the "video" clip with "mystery explosion".

Let me refresh your memory:

and
[/quote]

Not even responding to my PM.

2/23/2004 10:07:00 PM

^once again, simple request

2/23/2004 10:23:56 PM

Quote :

"If a freshman school kid knew about the imminent September 11th attack, then how on earth could the biggest intelligence agencies in the world not know? On September 6 — five days before the attack — Antoinette DiLorenzo, who teaches English as a second language to a class of Pakistani immigrants, led a class discussion about world events. She asked a freshman (his name has been withheld): “What are you looking at?” The youth was peering out the third floor window toward lower Manhattan. After he made the remark about the World Trade Center not being there next week, the teacher didn’t immediately think much of it, though it stuck in her mind. Note that the remark does not just broadly state that the towers will be attacked, but specifically that they will disappear. This is just one of numerous smoking guns to suggest that the Muslim community across the world was aware of the terrorist attack. Islamic calendars (pictured) circulated last year depicting a plane crashing into lower Manhattan. The plot was even the subject of everyday street gossip in Cairo Egypt in August 2001. Everybody knew. Are we to believe the most sophisticated intelligence agencies in the world didn't? http://www.propagandamatrix.com/911_redux.html"

sources:

MSNBC: http://propagandamatrix.com/Trade_Center_warning_baffles_police.htm
Newsmax: http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2002/5/29/71547.shtml


[Edited on February 23, 2004 at 10:47 PM. Reason : ..]

2/23/2004 10:45:52 PM

Bush warned in months before 9/11 (CBS):

Quote :

"President Bush was told in the months before the Sept. 11 attacks that Osama bin Laden's terrorist network might hijack U.S. passenger planes - information which prompted the administration to issue an alert to federal agencies - but not the American public. CBS News National Security Correspondent David Martin says the warning was in a document called the President's Daily Brief, which is considered to be the single most important document that the U.S. intelligence community turns out. The document did not, however, mention the possibility of planes being flown into buildings."

Fleischer lies about knowledge of the possibility of terrorists using planes as missiles:

Quote :

"White House spokesman Ari Fleischer said that while President Bush was told last summer that bin Laden's al Qaeda network might hijack planes, "until the attack took place, I think it's fair to say that no one envisioned that [using planes as suicide bombs] as a possibility." However, a federal report issued exactly two years before the Sept. 11 attacks contrasts with that statement. The report, entitled the "Sociology and Psychology of Terrorism: Who Becomes a Terrorist and Why?," warned the executive branch that bin Laden's terrorists might hijack an airliner and dive bomb it into the Pentagon or other government building."

source: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/05/16/attack/main509294.shtml

[Edited on February 23, 2004 at 11:01 PM. Reason : ..]

2/23/2004 10:59:21 PM

Quote :

"One police officer says he would need a couple of other similarly confirmed cases to conclude definitively that word was on the street. "

What, you think no one actually reads the links you post ?

[Edited on February 23, 2004 at 11:02 PM. Reason : ooh, 100 posts, lookit me ]

2/23/2004 11:00:56 PM

^
in context:

Quote :

"Investigators don’t know what to believe. On the one hand, one argues, “This is too much of a coincidence that the kid said this” before September 11. On the other hand, scores of tips in the area have not checked out when pursued by police. One police officer says he would need a couple of other similarly confirmed cases to conclude definitively that word was on the street. http://propagandamatrix.com/Trade_Center_warning_baffles_police.htm"

...second to last paragraph

[Edited on February 23, 2004 at 11:08 PM. Reason : ..]

2/23/2004 11:07:18 PM

I read it in context the first time, and when you posted it again, and all I'm comming up with is they don't know whether word was on the street for sure.

Also, from Snopes.com:

Quote :

"A similar incident involving a schoolchild was reported in Brooklyn, New York: In Brooklyn, a high school freshman who recently immigrated from Pakistan was investigated by federal agents after his teacher reported that he had predicted the Trade Center's collapse a week before the towers were attacked. The student pointed out a third-story window of New Utrecht High School toward the Trade Center and said, "Do you see those two buildings? They won't be standing there next week," according to three police sources and a city official familiar with the investigation. They said the comment came in the midst of a heated political discussion the student was having with his teacher in an English class for Arab-American students. Once again, however, no follow-up information surfaced to indicate that the boy had any specific foreknowledge of the September 11 attacks: Federal agents who visited the New Utrecht school questioned the student and his older brother, who also attends there, the sources said. Afterward, the agents tried to question their father, who chastised them for harassing his children, they said. Police sources said that, after the interviews, the boy's father left for Pakistan. After his departure, investigators conducted a second interview with the boy and his mother, who told them that her son was having psychological problems. "

http://www.snopes.com/rumors/predict2.htm#add

2/23/2004 11:13:06 PM

Good website on 9/11: http://makethemaccountable.com/whatwhen/index.htm

2/23/2004 11:17:04 PM

Quote :

"the fact is he not answering some of these very logical, practical, need to know questions is because the answers he will give will disprove all his ramblings for the past 16 pages. so he chooses to ignore them that way he will still keep his ego alive and thriving. personally i think he gets off to this shit cause he thinks he knows everything when he doesn't have the slightest clue about what he is talking about. (see his "theories" that violate the laws of physics and engineering). "

Quote :

"the fact is he not answering some of these very logical, practical, need to know questions is because the answers he will give will disprove all his ramblings for the past 16 pages. so he chooses to ignore them that way he will still keep his ego alive and thriving. personally i think he gets off to this shit cause he thinks he knows everything when he doesn't have the slightest clue about what he is talking about. (see his "theories" that violate the laws of physics and engineering). "

Quote :

"the fact is he not answering some of these very logical, practical, need to know questions is because the answers he will give will disprove all his ramblings for the past 16 pages. so he chooses to ignore them that way he will still keep his ego alive and thriving. personally i think he gets off to this shit cause he thinks he knows everything when he doesn't have the slightest clue about what he is talking about. (see his "theories" that violate the laws of physics and engineering). "

2/23/2004 11:27:58 PM

Quote :

"I'm not going to waste my time responding to stupid questions and points that distract from the issue or are so silly that they aren't worth responding to."

You haven't even responded to something as simple as there obviously only being one building in the "video" clip with "mystery explosion".

Let me refresh your memory:

and
[/quote]

I mean really. I'm not looking for something exceptionally demanding here. Just point out the second building. I really want to know where it is since you swear its there. I have the easiest request out of anyone. Others want you to give detailed analysis or cooberating evidence while I just want you to open MS Paint and draw a couple lines.

2/24/2004 12:43:54 AM

^pwnt

2/24/2004 1:43:58 AM

I will respond when I wish...not at your demand...

From the direction of view of the camera in the clip below where the mysterious dust cloud is rising, the north tower is directly in front of the south tower.



One reason it is clear that both towers are still standing (from just looking at the clip) is because you DO NOT SEE the light gray colored dust that would be there if the south tower was collapsing or had just collapsed. Such a light gray dust cloud would be WIDER than the building. All you see is DARK/BLACK smoke. (This dark black smoke is the smoke from the crash of the second plane into the south tower...CNN confirmed that this video was shot at 9:04am). Therefore, we know that the light colored dust cloud rising in the clip below is not from the collapse of the south tower.



[Edited on February 24, 2004 at 10:22 AM. Reason : ..]

2/24/2004 10:03:23 AM

This is how it should look when one of the towers collapses...



...notice the LIGHT GRAY dust cloud that is WIDER than the building itself.

[Edited on February 24, 2004 at 10:14 AM. Reason : ..]

2/24/2004 10:14:28 AM

Quote :

"what exactly caused an explosion that reached over 47 stories into the air, which no other media outlet has picked up on, no one remembers and which seems to have not had any damage on anything?""

2/24/2004 10:33:54 AM