^ chow was not the best candidate.

12/6/2006 5:21:10 PM

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"chow was not the best candidate."

12/6/2006 5:22:02 PM

I don't understand why everyone is oogling over Norm Chow. He's too freakin old to have no HC experience



I'd rather have O'Brien to Jimbo Fisher personally, but I'm pissed we didn't get PJ

12/6/2006 5:22:54 PM

Can anyone tell me why the Boston College Coach seems to be > Fisher and PJ?

Is there something that makes tom the focus?

12/6/2006 5:24:37 PM

a good article from StateFansNation:

http://www.statefansnation.com/index.php/archives/2006/12/06/sfns-take-tob-pj/

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"SFN’s Take: TOB > PJ SFN has been hearing from a variety of sources that Boston College head man Tom O’Brien has emerged as a serious contender for the NC State job. As you may know, O’Brien has taken some heat from the Eagle faithful for not being able to get BC over the proverbial hump. While we agree that O’Brien may have maxed out what he is able to accomplish in Beantown, we do not believe that his ceiling would necessarily be limited at NC State. O’Brien is supposedly willing to make a move because Boston is a pro sports town, almost exclusively. BC also has a small alumni base, which has led to good Eagle teams getting subpar bowl bids. The argument is that better bowls would lead to more recruiting momentum, as would a thriving, college-town environment - and ultimately, a chance at more success at NC State. Of course, you might note that you could say the same thing about Paul Johnson. There is some truth to that. However, we believe that Tom O’Brien has some clear advantages over PJ - (i) BCS conference experience; (ii) has recruited at least some premium athletes; (iii) less potential to be negatively recruited against successfully; and (iv) a stronger staff (with pretty remarkable continuity). O’Brien is no spring chicken, but young enough (58) to have a good ten year run at NC State. Plus, we already know his likely “floor” - 7-9 win seasons, which would at least get NC State into good bowl games periodically. We also think that it is reasonable to hope for greater success (contention for ACC titles) with a fresh start and a different environment to work in. Is it guaranteed? No. But nobody is going to be a sure thing here. SFN thinks that O’Brien would be a very good choice."

i almost completely agree with their point-of-view

i think the bowl game situation is key and PackBacker said it best.

12/6/2006 5:25:30 PM

paul johnson interviewed with fowler and neinas on monday. fowler cancelled an interview with jimbo fisher shceduled for today in nashville, tn, basically ending all talks between us and fisher.

12/6/2006 5:26:48 PM

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"1) We have better facilities"

hey, maybe we can water down our field before a freezing assed night game too

12/6/2006 5:27:17 PM

I'm getting my WTF sign ready for next football season.

12/6/2006 5:27:32 PM

Dude.

Not BC's coach.

Please.

12/6/2006 5:28:07 PM

so is O'Brien pretty much a done deal?

12/6/2006 5:28:12 PM

a week ago everyone was saying how they don't want johnson b/c his offense is too bland. now everyone wants him? that's some nc state shit.

12/6/2006 5:28:29 PM

Maybe this is all a PR stunt by Fowler to make Paul Johnson look like Jesus.

12/6/2006 5:31:06 PM

^i hope so

12/6/2006 5:31:45 PM

12/6/2006 5:32:06 PM

Chow for OC

12/6/2006 5:33:29 PM

i want to see a solid O-Line for once

im all for it

12/6/2006 5:34:04 PM

I just dunno

our line would be better thats for sure

our O would improve

I just dunno, this is a difficult thing to support

12/6/2006 5:34:16 PM

Looks like it's going to be O'Brien...unless Johnson agrees to a reasonable salary.

12/6/2006 5:36:21 PM

I want to know why Fishers interview was canceled. I mean you can at least talk to the guy.

12/6/2006 5:36:39 PM

Ok I've been out the loop for awhile, O'Brien? WTF is this all about?!!!

12/6/2006 5:36:39 PM

he was queer

our Fat Cats dont like queers

12/6/2006 5:37:32 PM

^^ it's b/c he's a good coach and proven in the acc, and can probably take us higher than he could take boston college.. b/c they're boston college.

[Edited on December 6, 2006 at 5:37 PM. Reason : ^]

12/6/2006 5:37:37 PM

On the brightside he has beaten the tarholes.

12/6/2006 5:39:35 PM

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"I want to know why Fishers interview was canceled"

With NC State's past failures with assistant coaches, I think we were really focusing on candidates with head coaching experience.

12/6/2006 5:42:06 PM

Lets just hope, IF IT IS O'Brien

that PJ and Navy don't bitch smack them in the bowl game.

12/6/2006 5:46:24 PM

I have a feeling that before long there is gong to be an ***OFFICIAL ATHLETICS DIRECTOR SEARCH THREAD***... or at least there should be

12/6/2006 5:49:56 PM

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"Lets just hope, IF IT IS O'Brien that PJ and Navy don't bitch smack them in the bowl game."

Aha..I didn't think about that


The Meineke Car Care Bowl
The Battle of NC State

Just give whoever wins the job

12/6/2006 5:53:26 PM

^ why?

12/6/2006 5:53:30 PM

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"I have a feeling that before long there is gong to be an ***OFFICIAL ATHLETICS DIRECTOR SEARCH THREAD***... or at least there should be"

12/6/2006 5:58:20 PM

But Amato beat BC this year.

12/6/2006 6:00:58 PM

on a hail mary. cmon.

12/6/2006 6:02:17 PM

dont forget how bc won many of their games this year early on

12/6/2006 6:11:52 PM

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"I have a feeling that before long there is gong to be an ***OFFICIAL ATHLETICS DIRECTOR SEARCH THREAD***... or at least there should be"

best thing in this thread

12/6/2006 6:16:56 PM

aha pti just skimmed right over the norm chow thing to get to TO on the big finish

12/6/2006 6:18:43 PM

Dear SFN,

PJ could never recruit someone with NFL talent.

Sincerely,
Kyle Eckel

and soon to be coming to a NFL commissioner's exempt list - Adam Ballard

Seriously, the fact that PJ brought in a guy to Navy who is now in the NFL speaks more of his coaching ability than 10,000 NFL guys from BC ever would. That shits expected from a place like BC.

12/6/2006 6:46:14 PM

saw on wtvd that Obrien said He isn't a candidate of ANY job...i dunno whether it's a coiver up or not, oh well i guess we'll see

12/6/2006 6:49:38 PM

i seriously think whoever threw his name out was just covering up.

maybe they got him confused with Johnson since they are both coaching in the MCC bowl

could be wrong but I think its a big ploy

12/6/2006 6:51:31 PM

Obrien's record at BC:
1997 4 7 36.4%
1998 4 7 36.4%
1999 8 4 66.7%
2000 7 5 58.3%
2001 8 4 66.7%
2002 9 4 69.2%
2003 8 5 61.5%
2004 9 3 75.0%
2005 9 3 75.0%
2006 9 3 75.0%

umm yea ill take that

12/6/2006 6:51:33 PM

most of that was against cupcake opponents

where the other record that shows him against top 25 teams.

12/6/2006 6:53:04 PM

He is better than Amato, but i'd rather have someone besides his sorry ass

12/6/2006 6:53:47 PM

i've heard its nearly a done deal. but i hope those people are liars and if they aren't, i want to set my hair on fire.

12/6/2006 6:53:48 PM

wtf??

Glad we wasted $35k hiring an "agent" if this is true

12/6/2006 6:56:45 PM

the often despised Gregg Doyel thinks we are still getting Cowher....

and that all this shit is a front.



[Edited on December 6, 2006 at 7:03 PM. Reason : ff]

12/6/2006 7:01:46 PM

I like this quote...

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"Bottom Line We fire chuck amato to bring in a coach from a team that Chuck amato beat"

[Edited on December 6, 2006 at 7:02 PM. Reason : s]

12/6/2006 7:02:23 PM

I still dont think you can beat Jimbo Fisher and the Auburn DC as a package combo. That seems better than anything that we are supposedly looking at right now. Much better than PJ. Even if Jimbo came alone for some reason (which I highly doubt as they were going to go to UNC before, I'd assume they'd offer the same here) he seems to be the better pick over TO and PJ as he has BCS experience and has much more room to grow/potential. If not him then I hope they keep up the cover stories to make us keep guessing and then in 4 weeks tell us the Chin is comming home!!!

12/6/2006 7:07:42 PM

^^exactly, here's another from one of the BC boards:

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"HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! I just realized that Toby is walking in as the 4th best coach in the State (behind Grobe, Butch Davis and Skip Holtz). Ohhhh man!!! NCS's last second hail mary has karma really biting them on the ass right now."

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"I am surprised they hired a guy who lost to Amato like that. "

[Edited on December 6, 2006 at 7:11 PM. Reason : ]

12/6/2006 7:11:06 PM

WE GOT FOWLER'D AGAIN

12/6/2006 7:18:06 PM

This is Terrible



If he is Hired


NC State will.....














RULE THE FUCKING SHITTER

12/6/2006 7:19:27 PM

I bet recruiting "Kiwi" to play in Boston was easy. And Matt Ryan winning All-ACC and QB of the Year in the ACC says that he can make a second rate squad look good. Plus, if you get a chance, look at the facilities he had to get kids to play in.

12/6/2006 7:24:31 PM

^^ HAHAHA

12/6/2006 8:26:05 PM