Reaching audiences with what exactly?

3/19/2009 7:34:42 PM

i guess the american worker wasn't strong 4 months ago, or we had some massive leap in technology (in how to print money no doubt )

[Edited on March 19, 2009 at 10:15 PM. Reason : at least we have more capital, we won't run out of tp]

3/19/2009 10:15:16 PM

wat?

3/19/2009 10:17:54 PM

Whoops...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GD0EcujFSn8

3/19/2009 10:47:07 PM

Obama on Leno?

So instead of plugging a movie, we have the president plugging what..class warfare? Democrat leaders allowed the AIG employees to get their retention pay, and now Obama acts shocked and stunned?

And without his teleprompter, I'm guessing he'll say something stupid.

3/19/2009 10:53:29 PM

yes, because he is such an incompetent speaker

oh, and

3/19/2009 11:46:47 PM

re: the Leno interview.

So far, so good. No flubs, gaffs, mistakes, whatever. No problem talking without a prompter. Nice, easy conversational tone with Jay.

As he was explaining the AIG history, i realized that this was an excellent way to get a point across to lots of people who have probably not taken the time or energy to actually understand what is happening. To have the President of the US sit down and give a 3 minute history of it, in simple, plain terms, is wonderful.

Now, i'm sure E-dogg will find hints of "class warfare" throughout the interview, but face it - he's speaking a populist, popular message. You may think it's "class warfare" for the PotUS to say "enough is enough, guys - get real", but to the 95% of people making <$200k a year (or 99% making under $500k or whatever), that's a message they agree with.

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hell, turn this into a weekly or monthly thing if Obama wants to get his message out. That would be kind of cool, actually - if he hit up some talk shows like this once a month or so and and had normal conversations instead of only press conferences and speeches and news-type interviews

[Edited on March 20, 2009 at 12:09 AM. Reason : .]


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well, the biggest mistake so far was Obama almost drinking out of Len's mug going into the 2nd commercial break. otherwise, he's been on target, on message, and a smooth-talker, as usual.

Actually, maybe his biggest mistake is saying Geithner is doing "an outstanding job". I heard some talk on the radio today suggesting all the praise Obama has been giving Geithner in the past week could be leading up to the kiss of death - praise, praise, praise, then the ax

[Edited on March 20, 2009 at 12:19 AM. Reason : .]

3/20/2009 12:07:45 AM

I foresee that Geither is going to be Obama's Browny.

I guess it's good to get that out of the way early? hopefully it's the last time.

3/20/2009 12:28:32 AM

so, the only thing I think anyone could jump on Obama about that interview, and it would be an indication about how desperate they really are, is the joke about bowling a 129 and him going out for the Special Olympics. Let's if Palin and her crew of special-needs parents feel like making a mountain out of that molehill.

3/20/2009 12:32:27 AM

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"I foresee that Geither is going to be Obama's Browny. I guess it's good to get that out of the way early? hopefully it's the last time. "

Are you kidding? The excuse-making and justification has only begun.
Just wait...His administration will be filled with enough "Brownies" to clog a toilet.

3/20/2009 12:57:17 AM

3/20/2009 2:02:17 AM

^^^these are the same people who went after "lipstick on a pig"

of course they will

OR

they won't want the attention since slut palin just broke up with redneck johnson while little trip bastard is still nursing ON THEM FINE TITTAYS

3/20/2009 2:49:31 AM

who cares about an ex VP nominee's teenage child's relationship problems?

3/20/2009 7:57:03 AM

does this mean obama bucks are back in?

3/20/2009 9:09:32 AM

^^^ well, looks like the white house decided to squash that one before it started
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/03/20/obama-apologizes-for-spec_n_177302.html

3/20/2009 9:34:47 AM

^
While it's fun to watch libs get all over each other for political correctness, it's just amazing how we can't even make a joke about anything anymore without offending some group.

3/20/2009 10:59:56 AM

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"He expressed his disappointment and he apologized in a way that was very moving."

Sounds like it was a really special apology.


I agree that it's stupid we're even talking about it because how offended people get over every little thing is so fucking annoying.

3/20/2009 11:20:56 AM

I'd be happy if I bowled a 129

3/20/2009 11:44:21 AM

Well not only that but he wasn't saying he was a shitty bowler like a special olympics player themselves - I don't even think they HAVE bowling. It was a response to Leno telling him that it was a "good bowling score" which obviously it wasn't - he was just using the quip to say oh well like the special olympics where everyone has a good score / everyone is a winner , etc. Anyway, it's retarded that this is even an issue.

[Edited on March 20, 2009 at 1:03 PM. Reason : =]

3/20/2009 1:02:53 PM

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"Anyway, it's retarded that this is even an issue"

It's "retarded"? WHAT!!??

I DEMAND AN APOLOGY!

3/20/2009 1:45:01 PM

his special olympics comment doesn't offend me, but I do find it entertaining that they bent over backwards to nip that one. I too am bothered that you can't make a joke publicly anymore.

To be honest I criticized Obama's move to be on Leno. But in hindsight (even though I didn't watch it) I think it was a good idea.

3/20/2009 2:04:52 PM

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"I too am bothered that you can't make a joke publicly anymore."

this is very true, but for Obama's sake, i'm glad that they decided to go ahead and preemptively issue a statement, before the segment even aired, just to try to stop any controversy before it started. If a morning talk show or Drudge or someone had decided to capitalize on it first, an after-the-fact apology would have looked even worse than the preemptive one.


and re: your second point - i was actually surprised at how well it went, and at how effective that platform was for him to get across his ideas. LIke I said earlier, I think it would even make sense for him to make this a monthly thing, where he goes on Leno or Letterman, or The Daily Show or Regis/Kelly or The View or whatever just to give himself more avenues for people to hear him in different settings.

3/20/2009 2:25:51 PM

Just once I'd like to see him on Colbert...

He'd be able to finish off his "Better Know a District" segment by covering the entire US.

3/20/2009 2:28:36 PM

I use the special olympics line at least 3 times a year.

3/20/2009 5:44:35 PM

It is somewhat in bad taste for the President of the US to make a joke like this.

Personally, it makes me realize that he's not hiding i his ivory tower looking down on us, like I always perceived about Cheney/Bush, he's more "in touch" with normal people. But, it really does look bad, from the quotes i've seen (i haven't seen the video yet), that he would say something that could be perceived as diminishing Special Olympics athletes (even though that wasn't his intent).

3/20/2009 5:52:56 PM

I agree moron. On one hand just about anyone else should be able to say that and it really be a non issue, but this is the president. In no way should they even come close to a joke like that, very poor use of words. imo

I think how he handled the british Pm was a bigger blunder. He isnt have a good couple of weeks.

Whoever compared the gietner to brownie comment.. i agree with you 100%. I guess the thinig with brownie is bush knew he wasnt qualified when he gave him the position, but he thought we wouldnt ever need him. Big difference with geither

3/20/2009 6:21:43 PM

what is happening is that we've full-on entered the mtv generation in power

all that 1950s-60s stuff is dying and going out the window

when you've got millionaires in sneakers and internet message boards, comments and ideas are going to be increasingly off-the-cuff and random

for better for worse... time marches on

men don't powder wigs anymore

3/20/2009 6:28:21 PM

http://www.tmz.com/2009/03/20/special-olympics-champ-to-barack-bring-it-on/

lol

i'd love to see this

3/20/2009 8:10:32 PM

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"who cares about an ex VP nominee's teenage child's relationship problems?"

when you run on the basis of moral authority* and an ability to divine who is a "real" american

i'm going to enjoy the failures in your personal rhetoric

i don't care who you are

(*more her alaska runs than her vp run)

3/20/2009 8:12:04 PM

i can see how you bungled that...devine and define both rhyme

3/20/2009 8:44:13 PM

^^how, if you are republican, does it make you immune to the whims of your teenage children? utterly and completely ridiculous.

there are plenty of good parents who have no control over their children's balls and uteri.

3/20/2009 9:32:06 PM

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"all that 1950s-60s stuff is dying and going out the window"

I'm not that comfortable with the president going on comedy talk show/plug-fests. But that is probably my generation showing. The country's culture is changed with each upcoming group, so I guess this increased casualness is the wave of the future.

If he keeps doing these talk shows, they should design a shoulder-harness teleprompter so he can move around easily.

3/20/2009 9:46:38 PM

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"from the quotes i've seen (i haven't seen the video yet), that he would say something that could be perceived as diminishing Special Olympics athletes (even though that wasn't his intent)"

you kind of have to watch the video to get the full effect. He was riffing with Leno about his bad score, and they were in a moment of some quick back-and-forth, the audience was laughing, and the Special Olympics quote wasn't even really a full sentence, and obviously not a fully planned thought. Just kind of a phrase that didn't make much sense anyway that came out a half-completed thought

3/21/2009 12:45:32 AM

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"If he keeps doing these talk shows, they should design a shoulder-harness teleprompter so he can move around easily."

i love this myth that obama can't talk off the cuff. what do you think he did for 90% of his campaign?

sure the big set-piece speeches were written and teleprompted, but most of his campaigning he spoke from memory/off the top of his head. does it make you feel better if you think that all his words are written for him and that he's some empty suit?

3/21/2009 1:55:33 AM

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"i can see how you bungled that...devine and define both rhyme"

Divine: transitive verb 1 : to discover by intuition or insight : infer <divine the truth>

if you're NOT dnl, you're doing a great job pretending to be a dumbass

3/21/2009 5:31:03 PM

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"how, if you are republican, does it make you immune to the whims of your teenage children? utterly and completely ridiculous. there are plenty of good parents who have no control over their children's balls and uteri."

then maybe you shouldn't be a supporter of abstinence-only or even abstinence-predominant sex ed

keep up your white knighting for palin though

its hilarious

3/21/2009 5:36:25 PM

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"a half-completed thought"

-- Obama

3/21/2009 6:11:58 PM

3/21/2009 7:50:20 PM

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"http://www.tmz.com/2009/03/20/special-olympics-champ-to-barack-bring-it-on/ lol i'd love to see this "

I think it'd actually help Obama out if he did it.

3/22/2009 12:23:14 AM

whats the point of having a personal bowling alley if you don't let some special olympics champ use it

i bet it will be the first time in white house history two black guys play each other on it though

3/22/2009 2:07:27 AM

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"what do you think he did for 90% of his campaign? "

lie? blame bush? Talking points?

3/22/2009 9:05:33 AM

THERE IS NO BARACK, ONLY ZUUL

3/22/2009 2:35:56 PM

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"then maybe you shouldn't be a supporter of abstinence-only or even abstinence-predominant sex ed keep up your white knighting for palin though its hilarious"

I dont give a fuck about Palin, nor do I give a fuck about abstinence-only education. I just dont think she got treated very fairly. how many parents believe in abstinence from alcohol for their kids yet their kids pound beers on the weekend and drive drunk?

besides, douches like you are the ones keeping her relevant by latching on to Entertainment Tonight-style reporting that surrounds her.

3/22/2009 2:43:50 PM

i didn't say you were a supporter of it

good grief you dont' really get the basics of discussion do you

3/22/2009 3:26:31 PM

whatever. you are grasping at straws because your boy is spending us into catastrophe and the public is already getting wise to it.

3/22/2009 5:01:35 PM

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"whatever. you are grasping at straws because your boy is spending us into catastrophe and the public is already getting wise to it."

No see this why Conservative America currently is a total state of failure.

We're not spending our way into a catastrophe, we're most certainly already in a catastrophe.

We're trying to spend our way out of it-whether that will work or not is the discussion that needs to be happening. There's a distinct difference that seems to be lost on the Limbaugh crowd.

3/22/2009 6:53:29 PM

^ We're in a hell of a crunch, but I wouldn't call it a catastrophe. Things can get a whole lot worse than they are now.

3/22/2009 7:37:02 PM

Kinda done with Obama. The laughing about the auto makers situation on 60 minutes just now was the final straw I think.

3/22/2009 8:26:13 PM

going to have to elaborate on that....

3/22/2009 8:43:00 PM

Just kinda sick of the way this mess has been handled. Read Geithners latest attempt at bailing out wall street buddies was nearly the last straw, but chuckling on national TV about the auto makers needing money and then giving it to them anyway pretty much pushes me over my limit for tolerating this corporate welfare bullshit.

3/22/2009 9:16:09 PM