damn, we did drop the ball on the Russell shirts.

Let's get the "Classic Mike Glennon" shirts going now

9/13/2011 8:17:45 AM

Cowherd listing Russell as a NFL QB along with other in the discussion about replacing Peyton in 2-3 yrs. Says they (Luck, K. Moore, Griffin, Wilson, Barkley, etc) are good QB and can be good in the NFL.

mainly about there are a number of QB in the NCAA that are good that will be coming out in the next 2-3 yrs, but he did list Russell. i think he just forgot about Mike Glennon.

9/13/2011 12:05:01 PM

I love it. As a QB at an ACC school the media thinks he just doesn't have what it takes for pro football. Two games of whooping up on cupcakes at a Big 10 school and he's starting NFL quarterback material.

9/13/2011 12:16:21 PM

lol - not only do you listen to cowherd, you actually repeat what he says

do you also find bleacher report slide shows to be stimulating?

[Edited on September 13, 2011 at 12:41 PM. Reason : .]

9/13/2011 12:40:21 PM

Some might speculate that he knew his chances of getting into the NFL would be much greater if he played his final season in the Big 10, and it just so happened that the transfer rule just changed to alllow him to do it... so he forced TOB to make The Decision. Again, that's all speculation of course.

9/13/2011 12:42:38 PM

I mean, everybody knows the QB on the best team always at least gets drafted, even if he doesn't start in the NFL. The QB on the team that loses 7 games, even if they lose because of defense, gets drafted far less often.

I guess what I'm saying is if Russell had that in mind, I don't really blame him.

9/13/2011 12:45:16 PM

all this talk should probably calm down until wiscy plays a school that admits men

9/13/2011 12:54:43 PM

Of course Wilson knew he had a better chance of going pro if he played well against tougher opponents. Why even question that?

Wilson wasn't as good as expected at baseball, so he did what he had to do to put himself in the best position, and that is transfer to Wisconsin. He could have gotten some level of fame and fortune in the ACC, but not near as much as he's getting now.

Case in point is Tyrod Taylor, who won the ACC championship and went in the 6th round for like $310,000 or something (that's the number I heard, not sure if it's accurate). Christian Ponder went much higher but he has traits Wilson didn't possess. Wilson is more comparable to Taylor, in my opinion.

*EDIT* I should note that I think he is significantly better than Taylor but that doesn't matter. He's a small dual-threat QB, just like Taylor. Even with an ACC championship win he wouldn't be guaranteed a big contract. Even Nate Irving is making significantly more than Tyrod and he's third string. It's all because he fits the profile of an NFL player whereas Tyrod Taylor and Russell Wilson are significantly different from that quintessential NFL player.

[Edited on September 13, 2011 at 1:02 PM. Reason : .]

9/13/2011 1:00:02 PM

If all Wilson wanted to do was to get publicity and play against big time opponents, then he should have transferred to Auburn as he'd be playing a much tougher schedule and would have a lot more pub following in Cam's shoes.

I believe Wilson genuinely just wanted a chance to play football again and since TOB decided to choose Glennon, he choose the next best option which was Wisconsin. The idea that he wanted to force a transfer is absurd.

[Edited on September 13, 2011 at 1:14 PM. Reason : V I'm not faulting TOB if that is what you're implying]

9/13/2011 1:09:55 PM

Poooooor ole Russell. Kicked out in the pouring rain by big bad Tom. No one would take him but lowly Wisconsin. Wait...

9/13/2011 1:12:55 PM

Well it seems fairly obvious to me that the reason he chose Wisconsin over Auburn is that their offense is very similar to State's, so it would be easier to become accustomed to it, and also because their offensive line is more conducive to Wilson's play style than Auburn's was.

Also, their colors are red and Adidas supplies their equipment. It's just like he's back at State.

9/13/2011 1:35:39 PM

Also, wasn't Auburn losing like a gazillion starters?

[Edited on September 13, 2011 at 9:18 PM. Reason : Quick googling suggests that Auburn is starting 19 guys that did not start last year]

9/13/2011 9:17:14 PM

Quote :

"Heisman profiles On Tuesdays, Ryan McGee will profile the most compelling names in the Heisman race, evaluating each candidate's chance of bringing home college football's top individual honor. • Sept. 13: Russell Wilson • Sept. 6: Robert Griffin III On Monday, I walked into the offices of ESPNU ready to do a segment on "Palmer & Pollack" about my current ESPN The Magazine profile of Florida State quarterback EJ Manuel. "Who's he remind you of?" Jesse Palmer asked. "Cam?" "Nope." "Denard?" "Nope." "Robert Griffin?" "Nope." "Well then, who?" "Easy," I said. "Russell Wilson. Except Wilson looks like Manuel should look a year from now." In the past three years, I have seen Wilson up close more than any other top-shelf college quarterback. I've seen him five times in the past year alone: three times behind center for NC State and twice as a middle infielder for the Asheville Tourists, Class A affiliate of the Colorado Rockies. As good as he was for the Wolfpack -- in three seasons, he threw for 8,545 yards and 76 touchdowns and ran for 1,089 yards and 17 TDs -- he still flew below the radar nationally. Because of that, no one in the Midwest was entirely sure what to expect from the fifth-year senior who transferred to play for the Wisconsin Badgers. Well, the Badger is out of the bag. Wilson ranks in second place on Ryan McCrystal's Heisman Predictor rankings this week, and -- with a national stage that Raleigh just couldn't provide -- Mr. Wilson is garnering "Is he this year's out-of-nowhere Cam Newton?" type buzz. Spending your first two games going 27-of-33 for six touchdowns and an otherworldly passing efficiency rating of 244.8 will do that for a man. So, is college football's most recognizable transfer a legit contender to visit the Downtown Athletic Club this December? Let's take a look. Why he'll win First things first: Don't be fooled by Wilson's smooth style. His career numbers are on par with plenty of guys who already have a big bronze statue on their mantel. In particular, he compares favorably to another cross-sport star from another ACC school. Russell, meet Charlie A comparison of Charlie Ward and Russell Wilson's career numbers. Player Comp Att Yds TDs INTs Comp % YPA Rush TDs Rush YPC Ward 473 750 5747 49 21 62.3 7.6 10 5.2 Wilson 709 1214 8989 81 26 58.4 7.4 18 3.1 As a four-year starter, Wilson has played in more than twice as many games as Ward. But at the height of their careers -- 1993 for Ward and last year for Wilson -- their numbers are similar. The most telling numbers are their per-play stats, which are very similar throwing the ball but decidedly in Ward's favor when it comes to running. The biggest difference between the two? Ward broke off more long, spectacular plays, particularly with his feet. He also a had a much larger national stage on which to showcase his talents. Last week, we told you that Robert Griffin III's biggest problem was going to be the team he plays for. Baylor will not be a BCS title contender. It won't even be a Big 12 title contender. In the past decade, Heisman voters have looked almost exclusively at players who not only are great as individuals but also are part of a team that remains relevant on a national stage deep into the season. They don't have to play in or win the national title game, as was the case for Newton last season, Mark Ingram the year before and Matt Leinart in 2004. But they do have to be on a BCS conference champion, or at least a top-10 team at or past Thanksgiving weekend. In other words, contenders have to be on a squad that spends all season in the "A" block of "SportsCenter" on Saturday nights. Wilson was never going to have that at NC State. In Wisconsin, he's been gifted a near-perfect Big Ten big-stage scenario. The Badgers are in the midst of a four-week stat-padding pre-conference run against UNLV, Oregon State, Northern Illinois (this Saturday at Soldier Field) and South Dakota. Then comes nothing less than Nebraska's inaugural Big Ten game. That's followed by a week off, then what is a relatively fortuitous conference schedule -- Indiana, at Michigan State, at Ohio State, Purdue, at Minnesota, at Illinois and Penn State at home. No Iowa, no Northwestern, no Michigan. Don't forget, this is a team that came within two points of winning the Rose Bowl just nine months ago. Its past five bowls have included three New Year's Day games. When the Badgers played in the 2008 and 2009 Champs Sports Bowls, it was considered a huge letdown. Staying in the national spotlight will be easy, win or lose. But if Wilson has a big game against Nebraska on Oct.1, that spotlight will be solely focused on No. 16. Why he won't Problem No. 1: He wasn't even the first Heisman candidate in his own backfield. Before the season, tailback Montee Ball was the recipient of the Badgers' Heisman attention. He has backed that hype by equaling Wilson's passing TD total with five rushing scores of his own. And at the end of the day, this is still Wisconsin football, the people who brought you Ron Dayne, and the Badgers will always be run-first. Problem No. 2: Wilson is relatively late to the Heisman party, especially among quarterbacks. Last week, we also pointed out that Griffin had started the year ranked 11th in StiffArmTrophy.com's preseason Heisman voters poll. Wilson was 12th. Problem No. 3: Slow and steady does not win the Heisman. Every winner has a signature play or game. The kind of moment electric players such as Griffin or Denard Robinson were made for. That's not Wilson's game. He's multifaceted but plays it safe. His early-season numbers are classic Wilson, high efficiency over a relatively smaller number of attempts (look for more 200-yard passing outings from him this season than 300-yarders). And although he has the ability to run all over the place a la Denard and Cam, he pulls that weapon out of the holster only when he needs it. (See: last year's win over Florida State.) Intangibles It's impossible to find anyone who doesn't love Wilson, not even among the Wolfpack fan base. Initially, the folks in Raleigh were frustrated by Wilson's insistence on playing baseball even though it caused him to miss some practices. And this past spring, when it was announced that NC State coach Tom O'Brien was letting Wilson go, there was more than a little venom thrown the quarterback's way. But it took only a few days for that anger to fade. And now there are more than a few Wisconsin jerseys and T-shirts on the NC State campus. "He's the kind of kid that you don't want to see leave, but you also wish him well. Unless he's playing against one of our schools, then I am pulling for him. If you've ever met him, then it's impossible not to root for him." That's a quote from John Swofford, commissioner of the ACC. Wilson is also playing the underdog role, garnering national attention for what, outside of North Carolina, looks like a player who was run off from his school. And the only thing Heisman voters love more than a BCS contender is a BCS contender who comes out of nowhere. Odds of Wilson winning: 15-1 To put that number in perspective, right now, I would have Landry Jones and Andrew Luck in the neighborhood of 5-1 or a little better. To put it in even more perspective, before the season, I would have had Wilson at 300-1 if I had even bothered to give him odds at all. The current number could get slashed in half or could quadruple in size in the coming weeks. Whichever happens, it will go down on Oct. 1 when the Huskers roll into Madison. "

9/14/2011 12:31:02 AM

If I had said the things that guy said I would be called a "troll"

9/14/2011 12:38:00 AM

Quote :

"And now there are more than a few Wisconsin jerseys and T-shirts on the NC State campus."

there is absolutely no way that he could know if this is true or not.

9/14/2011 12:51:52 AM

^^ Like what?

^ message_topic.aspx?topic=618165

[Edited on September 14, 2011 at 1:40 AM. Reason : ]

9/14/2011 1:11:48 AM

i doubt many people in that thread actually bought one. i doubt even more than anyone in that thread has gotten theirs yet. i doubt even more that anyone in that thread is regularly on campus, and i doubt even more than that that anyone in that thread has worn one of those on campus.

i'm not saying no one on campus is wearing a wisconsin shirt, but i am saying that a guy who works for ESPN just made that up and knows that no one cares that he did.

9/14/2011 2:23:58 AM

Crazy Old Uncle Lou just called RW the #2 favorite to win the Heisman

9/15/2011 7:55:15 PM

the same crazy uncle lou that doesn't have an NCSU logo on his Dr. Lou logo montage of colleges he has coached at and instead has 2 logos for the fuckin chickens?

[Edited on September 15, 2011 at 11:08 PM. Reason : ]

9/15/2011 10:45:37 PM

^ hahaha

9/15/2011 11:07:35 PM

Spencer Tillman just said RW had it after coming out against Nebraska

9/17/2011 2:56:58 PM

I wish I'd realized that Wisconsin was going to be playing at Soldier Field this weekend. I just moved up to Chicago and would have liked to see Wilson play live with a really good team. Ah well.

[Edited on September 17, 2011 at 3:18 PM. Reason : /]

9/17/2011 3:18:02 PM

^same here. I thought about going either to soldier or to one of the many wisconsin bars in my neighborhood. Instead i'm just gonna watch the game on espn3 and down a bottle of scotch and cry.


I still think all parties involved made the right decision, though.

[Edited on September 17, 2011 at 4:03 PM. Reason : ]

9/17/2011 3:59:23 PM

347 yds, 3 TD.....3-0 record

9/17/2011 7:38:42 PM

i wish i had put $20 on wisconsin to win the national title when i was in vegas before the season started. i had every intention to do it and totally forgot.

9/17/2011 7:39:51 PM

^^He threw a pick as well

9/17/2011 7:50:57 PM

PEE DRANKIN

9/17/2011 7:59:57 PM

I see the Badgers in the National Championship, and Russell Wilson winning the Heisman.

9/17/2011 8:24:54 PM

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/cory_mccartney/heisman-watch/index.html?xid=cnnbin&hpt=hp_bn10

More heisman buzz, "the next Cam".

9/21/2011 8:28:12 AM

...who's seven inches shorter and 50 pounds lighter.

9/21/2011 9:19:14 AM

He's talking about a transfer winning the heisman.

9/21/2011 9:20:05 AM

RW is putting in work putting up tough numbers. Legit numbers and consistent behavior.


III

9/21/2011 11:19:49 AM

I wonder if Russell will go out and create some recruiting violations along the way so he can get even more camera time just like Cam. Still cannot believe the NCAA let him and Auburn get away with that bullcrap.

9/21/2011 11:27:07 AM

The more terrible we play, the happier I am that Wilson is in a spot where he can really shine.

9/22/2011 10:25:29 PM

Wilson is probably saying a prayer and thanking God that he is at Wisconsin and not rotting away playing for our joke of a program.

[Edited on September 22, 2011 at 10:44 PM. Reason : as]

9/22/2011 10:43:39 PM

Wilson this year and Brosius next year is better than Glennon for 2 years.

9/22/2011 11:12:35 PM

Yes because Phil Rivers himself overcame craptacular defenses.

9/22/2011 11:14:06 PM

I hope you noticed that our offense is terrible. And if our offense stays on the field, the defense stays off the field. So yes, virginia, offense does affect defense.

9/22/2011 11:16:10 PM

You mad?

9/22/2011 11:24:32 PM

Quote :

"The more terrible we play, the happier I am that Wilson is in a spot where he can really shine."

So much this. He got out from underneath this train wreck and headed to a program where he could get the attention he deserves. What would he have done here? Lead us to a 5-7 or 6-6 season?

9/22/2011 11:27:26 PM

defenses don't play as hard when they know the offense sucks. wilson gave our whole team a swagger.

9/23/2011 12:52:04 AM

9/23/2011 12:54:04 AM

It's hard to tell which side is right when both sides are making such bad arguments

9/23/2011 12:55:18 AM

Quote :

"defenses don't play as hard when they know the offense sucks. wilson gave our whole team a swagger."

Kinda like when we had the best defense in the nation and didn't make a bowl?

9/23/2011 1:45:50 AM

wilson did his thing for three years, and the defense only showed up one year.

i think it was more of a nate irving "swagger" than a russell wilson "swagger".

9/23/2011 1:48:33 AM

no. no. no.

russell wilson was soo amazing, that he made the defense better without even playing for them.




he also made our volleyball team better, our debate squad stronger, our roads safer, and his greatness even made my washing machine make my whites even whiter.

9/23/2011 1:53:46 AM

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"think it was more of a nate irving "swagger" than a russell wilson "swagger"."

This x1000

Audi Cole doesn't move till a second after the snap. No energy. Poor leadership. Dead fish blitzes. Knew losing nate would hurt but really thought that defense would find a new source of energy. I was DEAD WRONG.

9/23/2011 2:18:30 AM

well, getting our vocal defensive captain back may help some

9/23/2011 10:07:31 AM

Quote :

"It's hard to tell which side is right when both sides are making such bad arguments"

lol

9/23/2011 10:21:49 AM

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"even made my washing machine make my whites even whiter."

+1

9/23/2011 10:30:17 AM