It's past the 30 minute edit period... so GENGH!!!

The report that I heard said that Ryan would fetch a top line forward, top d, and a pick... he's a good player, but that's a large asking price.

I'd be more apt to think Carlisle is gone than Ryan with that asking price.

[Edited on November 30, 2011 at 11:49 AM. Reason : I liked the pages with players starters]

11/30/2011 11:48:08 AM

Saw this on Canes Country.

[Edited on November 30, 2011 at 12:14 PM. Reason : tbdv]

11/30/2011 12:14:25 PM

http://www.thehockeynews.com/articles/43267-Rumor-Roundup-Ryan-on-the-trading-block.html#.TtaOvdmCpA4.twitter

11/30/2011 3:18:17 PM

^^
That's solid penmanship for an erase board.

11/30/2011 3:20:38 PM

Bobby Ryan? Yes fucking please. I'd trade boychuk, and a pick.

11/30/2011 7:59:02 PM

That pick is going to have to be at least a first to get Bobby Ryan if you're doing Boychuk. Ryan is worth more than Boychuk plus basics.

11/30/2011 8:02:04 PM

boychuk, mcbain and a 3rd

but i dont see JR taking that much more cap space......so Kaberle would have to be thrown in somehow

[Edited on November 30, 2011 at 8:17 PM. Reason : .]

11/30/2011 8:02:17 PM

Does anyone remember how much The Eye charges to send off a jersey for stitching and how long it usually takes?

12/1/2011 1:36:11 AM

$texas, and a long time.

12/1/2011 2:00:33 AM

It's ~$75 and ~4 weeks IIRC.

12/1/2011 2:07:45 AM

looking at ticketmaster, RBC Center is gonna be possibly more empty than it was Tuesday night, for the Rangers game :|

wat.

12/1/2011 2:17:26 AM

I think we can squash any hopes and dreams of landing Ryan now that Boudreau got hired in Anaheim.

12/1/2011 8:31:24 AM

Vulcan91, use these guys: http://exclusivepro.com/customjerseys.html. They're the folks that the Eye sends jerseys to for customization, and they charge $55.

12/1/2011 9:16:50 AM

^ Thanks



Hired.

12/1/2011 9:46:43 AM

Hoping to find some assistance here. I'm getting some tickets to a 2012 game for a gift, there are only a few home games on the weekend (only requirement besides home game). I haven't been keeping up with Hurricanes or hockey for a while, what is the opinion on what could be a great game? Thanks for any input.

[Edited on December 1, 2011 at 12:55 PM. Reason : ]

12/1/2011 12:53:35 PM

Quote :

"I think we can squash any hopes and dreams of landing Ryan now that Boudreau got hired in Anaheim."

can anyone think of a shorter length of time from fired to hired than 72 hours-ish?

12/1/2011 1:04:34 PM

Rumor is ANA is still fielding offers for Ryan even with Boudreau on board. Dude must have pissed off upper management.

12/1/2011 1:37:43 PM

12 points in 24 games this year will do that if you're a $5.1 mil player.... but by that same logic, Staal would be on the block also.

12/1/2011 1:48:41 PM

figured this would be posted by now, but for anyone who doesn't follow chip, here's his story on the canes hiring john maclean today to help forwards and the pk unit:
http://blogs.newsobserver.com/canes/canes-add-maclean-to-coaching-staff

12/1/2011 2:35:42 PM

^ see 5^

12/1/2011 2:46:40 PM

hahahaha, oops... didn't even notice. well, now there's some more info at least.

12/1/2011 3:05:19 PM

Anaheim telling teams that they are holding on to Ryan for now to see what happens with Bruce in charge.

12/1/2011 6:54:23 PM

Yea, he is back with Getzlaf and Perry.. I see that working out under Booty

12/1/2011 7:06:25 PM

9 scouts at RBC tonight: WSH, OTT, VAN, TOR, NSH, COL, CHI, CLB, LAK, DAL. Apparently 12 in Charlotte last night. Vultures circling.

Tweet from DeCock. Kinda smells like a multi-team trade.

Anytime JR says "nothing happening" it really means somethings bouts ta happen.

12/1/2011 8:31:28 PM

I'd like to think we're going to improve this season but being one of the worst teams in the league that usually means write the year off and gather prospects in exchange for names

I can't see them getting rid of Staal or Ward, they're the faces of the team. I don't want to see Skinner, Harrison, or LaRose leave either. Dwyer too. I went to the Leafs game 2 weeks ago and that guy busted his ass on defense.

JR was interviewed on Hockey Central yesterday. http://www.fan590.com/onair/more.jsp?content=20100901_102910_8464

Sigh, another loss.

[Edited on December 1, 2011 at 9:31 PM. Reason : /]

12/1/2011 9:26:51 PM

I could see LaRose going in a package deal, especially now that Maurice is gone.

12/1/2011 11:07:34 PM

was a part of the extra interesting musical chairs game tonight in the 2nd intermission.

12/1/2011 11:12:27 PM

zsl, I think you could actually could be right about Larose. He has seen significantly less ice time, and I have rarely heard his name mentioned the last two games.

That could mean, however, that Muller does not share the same affection as PoMo did and is using him where he belongs.

The likely scenario, if the vultures are in fact circling, is a top 6 forward that we need for some of our youth.

Finally, Kaberle is just garbage. What is in his head that is making him suck? It's got to be mental.

12/2/2011 8:40:28 AM

For Kaberle, it's both mental and physical. He doesn't know what he's going to do with the puck when he has it so he's hesitating and he's a step slow because he's not in shape. That's what a huge contract for 3 years will do to you.

12/2/2011 8:45:08 AM

So he either isn't getting the attention he needs from Pete, or he isn't listening to Pete, or doesn't want to be in shape....

I'm pretty sure one of those isn't true, though.

12/2/2011 8:53:25 AM

I'm sure the LaRose love bug will infect Muller as it has everyone else. Remember, when Mo came back in he actually put LaRose in the press box then on the 4th line. But before too long... top 6...

12/2/2011 11:51:05 AM

Quote :

"I could see LaRose going in a package deal, especially now that Maurice is gone."

They need to sell him while his value is high.

[Edited on December 2, 2011 at 12:09 PM. Reason : it will never be this high again]

12/2/2011 12:09:15 PM

^That's the main reason why I think he's likely to be traded.

12/2/2011 12:42:13 PM

http://twitpic.com/7na6wt

12/2/2011 5:44:23 PM

ahhh hahahaha, Sutter has the drunk Santa look down

12/2/2011 5:45:09 PM

ROFL

12/2/2011 7:03:36 PM

A not so honorable mention...

FRASER: WHY REFS DON'T WORK IN TEAMS ON A GAME-TO-GAME BASIS

Quote :

"Hey Kerry! First snow day of 2011 in your hometown of Sarnia! I have a question about referee scheduling. A few years back before the four-man officiating system I had a chance to spend some time with local referee Don Van Massehoeven at a game in Detroit. He said NHL referees don't work in teams on a game-to-game basis, but work in different combinations each game. This is in stark contrast to officials in the NFL, Major League Baseball, etc. Why is/was this system in place rather than working more regularly with the same group of officials to develop cohesion amongst a set grouping as seems to be more common in other sports? Regards, Phil Winch Sarnia, Ontario Part of the answer to your question is based on the history and tradition of our game dating back to the Original Six teams. Another element in the assignment process includes something that none of us will ever have control over - the weather! Weather first. Hockey is played during the dead of winter unlike the MLB or considerably shorter NFL schedule. The theory was to send two or even three officials from different directions so that in the event of inclement weather the odds were pretty good that at least one official could make it to the game. In the days of train travel a crew might jump on the train out of Montreal (the train was held until the teams and equipment were all aboard) and go as far as Chicago for a game the next night. Of course Boston, New York, Toronto and Detroit were other platform options if the crew of three was broken up. Paul Stewart and his crew got stranded in Carolina for the better part of a week one season when a freak blizzard paralyzed Raleigh-Durham. Nothing could come in or out of the Crabtree Marriott Hotel they were staying in. The biggest dilemma the patrons faced was that the hotel ran out of food and beer. In my final season, six days prior to Christmas I worked a Saturday afternoon Flyers game (close to home) and was scheduled to fly to Carolina the next day. Brad Watson was working a game in Carolina and then assigned to the next Flyers game two nights later. We would pass one another in the air. Problem was "the perfect storm" was forecast up and down the eastern seaboard. It actually started to hit as I was driving home from the Flyers game so I called NHL assigner, Randy Hall and suggested he leave Watson in Carolina for the next game and I would take his assignment in Philadelphia. I knew nothing would be moving on the ground let alone in the air. Great decision from Mr. Hall since three feet of snow fell the overnight followed by another two feet the next day. Both games were covered. The cost of doing business: Former Referee in Chief, Ian "Scotty" Morrison told me the team owners wanted his assurance that each referee would work an equal number of times in their building. This was especially true through the years of expansion when new officials were added to the staff. Since the owners paid an equal portion of the officiating budget they wanted an equal share of the more experienced and higher rated referees as opposed to a regular diet of rookies. Overexposure of one official was never a healthy idea for either the official or the team. One time when my game assignments overlapped from one assignment period to another I noticed that I was scheduled to work the Montreal Canadiens six games in a row while they were on the road. Attention had been paid to the home team cities in my assignments but the visiting team fell through the cracks. When I brought this obvious oversight to the attention of the Officiating Department a change in a couple of the games was made. Bobby Clarke, as general manager of the Philadelphia Flyers felt there wasn't enough familiarity between referees and players because a team might have a young referee one game and not see him again for a month. Bob felt this contributed to a lack of relationship building between officials and players. This was especially magnified (in Clarkies opinion) if the first game didn't go well since there was no quick opportunity to mend the fence for the referee or the player(s). Let's not forget the coaches as well. Bobby Clarke's remedy to this perceived problem was to take the senior referees and make them crew chiefs. The veterans would be assigned a pool of younger officials that would rotate amongst them for a number of games at a time. He also felt the groupings should remain within a division/conference for half the season at a time. As we moved from one referee on the ice to two there were growing pains in implementing this new system. No differently than through expansion of teams that elevated inexperienced players, the NHL Officiating staff doubled in size with the implementation of the four man system. Every official experiences growing pains until they gain experience and become accepted by the players. Experience aside, the most pressing challenge was to mesh two independent thinking referees into a team that exercised similar judgment from one end of the rink to the other - establish some form of consistency. That's what the players want most so they know what they can and can't do. (And then try and get away with all they can.) I think the officiating team has come a long way (most of the time) in this regard. To be more direct Phil, there is a standard system in place that each official must work within on a nightly basis no matter who they are partnered with. Their responsibilities don't change nor does their obligation to communicate with their partner on the ice. Some people are certainly more compatible with certain individuals than others; that's just human nature. There has been an effort made through the assignment process to keep pairings and crews together for a few games at a time to act as mentors and establish familiarity and cohesiveness as you suggest. This is always the case during the Stanley Cup Playoffs where pairings occur with both the referees and linesmen until the deck might be reshuffled towards the later games in a series. I think a crew that was assigned together for the whole season would have to be very, very compatible. Familiarity might even breed contempt! They might even resort to pranks on one another. In the days of riding the rails during the original six team league the officials were a small, tightly knit group. They also didn't make very much money and resorted to all kinds of measures to save on expenses. The stories told about rough and tumble Linesman, George Hayes are legendary. He travelled light to be able to fill his equipment bag with beer for the long train rides and would pack a lunch to save money. Referee, Eddie Powers thought he would help Hayes save money by packing him a "special lunch" for the train ride from Montreal to Chicago. Powers had picked up a can of dog food that afternoon and on the train that night after a couple of beers offered the 'meatloaf' sandwiches to Hayes which he ate heartily. George commented that the meatloaf tasted a little different but thanked Powers none the less for saving him some per diem money. The Montreal Canadiens were in their private car on that train and playing in Chicago that next night. Powers happened to tell one of the Montreal players that he had given George Hayes dog food sandwiches. That night in the Chicago Stadium every time a Habs player came near Hayes or he dropped the puck at a face-off the Montreal center would begin barking like a dog. Finally George Hayes asked them what the hell was wrong with them. Near the end of the game one of the Habs players let the cat out of the bag and George learned that he had eaten a can dog food. Rather than chase Powers around the ice he said it was the best dog food he ever ate. Woof... I really don't see an advantage to keeping a crew together for the extended periods, Phil."

http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=381756

Maybe this doesn't bother some of you people as it does me, but the banal labeling of "Raleigh-Durham" and "Carolina" irks me to no end. I registered and posted a comment pointing out this distinction but I am waiting for it to be reviewed. We're a Stanley Cup winning professional organization. Get the damn location correct!

12/2/2011 7:12:28 PM

Those are not very egregious misuses of the place names. Carolina is the name of the franchise. They couldn't get out because RDU was paralyzed. Etc.

What gets me is like "welcome to Raleigh-Durham for tonight's game. . ."

[Edited on December 2, 2011 at 9:12 PM. Reason : K]

12/2/2011 9:11:21 PM

i'm all for trading some players, as long as it's not staal (he will get it together eventually), ward, or skinner.

please send kaberle with some others for a good defense man or top line forward.

i wouldn't be sad to see larose go

12/2/2011 9:46:57 PM

Quote :

"please send kaberle with some others for a good defense man or top line forward."

lolwut

12/2/2011 9:53:38 PM

Haha during tonight's Devils game (Fuck Marty ) they mentioned Muller and MacLean as former Devils under the banner "Heading Down Tobacco Road". I know that one drives some folks nuts too. I don't mind the Canes being referred to as Carolina. It's when they refer to the entire state as "Carolina" as we done in that article. /nitpick

12/2/2011 10:15:36 PM

It's the title of both professional franchises in the state. Relax people.

12/3/2011 10:40:00 AM

I agree, the Bobcats are not professional. Seriously.

Aside from that.. I kind of thought a deal would be made by now, maybe there won't be any moves.

12/3/2011 10:51:57 AM

Well, it takes two to make a move. GMs always say they don't want to make a trade just to make it -- I bet people have been stonewalling JR since they know we are in a tight spot. Plus, we're just getting to the period in the season where we are more likely to see a trade. Teams have had ~25 games to evaluate their players.

I am positive we'll be making some moves. Maybe perhaps even a FIRE SALE

12/3/2011 11:12:55 AM

In keeping with the spirit of people I don't want to see go, here is my list in order of importance:

Skinner ( That crazy claim I made of him comparing to Stevie Y, I stand by )
Gleason ( Face of the D, we need him to be a lifer and I hope he wants that )
Sutter ( I may be biased, but I think he is our smartest player )
Ward ( I would actually be interested to see what he would fetch in a trade, but he is my Marty )
Staal ( If any of the top 5 were ever to go, Staal would be my first bye )
Stewart ( I think this guy has so much potential, and he is a team player )
Faulk ( Jury is still out for me, but aside from the 1st 3 games, this guy is LEGIT and we need to ink him )

12/3/2011 11:22:20 AM

oops, forgot about the bobcats

12/3/2011 3:01:09 PM

So I have two $50 gift cards for ticketmaster that I've been meaning to use for a while. I'm thinking about just buying the best seat I can find and going by myself. I just don't want to get stuck next to two Penguins fans...

12/3/2011 3:02:57 PM

unlikely.

12/3/2011 4:54:01 PM

just shoot em with a bb gun

12/3/2011 4:59:38 PM

The Puck Daddy article about NHL sophomores brought up a point that I wasn't aware of: Chad LaRose is second on the team in scoring. Christ alive.

12/3/2011 5:33:24 PM