hey now Indianapolis Jones 14975 Posts user info edit post |
^ Tough road slate. 5 extremely difficult road games. Better take care of business at home again. Welcome to the new ACC. Going to get even better adding Louisville.
NC State’s 2013-14 ACC Opponents:
Home & Away (4) North Carolina, Wake Forest, Miami, Pittsburgh
Home Only (5) Boston College, Florida State, Georgia Tech, Maryland, Virginia
Away Only (5) Clemson, Duke, Notre Dame, Syracuse, Virginia Tech
And lol at Maryland for not getting Duke or UNC at home. Predictable fuck you from the ACC.
[Edited on April 23, 2013 at 6:05 PM. Reason : add another note] 4/23/2013 5:59:09 PM
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Bullet All American 28165 Posts user info edit post |
This season will be interesting.
Six new guys: -Cat Barber (Fr) -Kyle Washington (Fr) -BeeJay Anya (Fr) -Lennard Freeman (Fr) -Ralston Turner (RsJr? transfer) -Desmond Lee (JuCo <- does he have 1 or 2 years?)
And three returners: -TJ Warren (Soph) -Tyler Lewis (Soph) -Jordan Vandenburg (Rs Sr) 4/29/2013 9:57:45 PM
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Prawn Star All American 7643 Posts user info edit post |
Defense looks like it'll once again be a major weakness, but with the added issue of poor rebounding. So we start 2 freshmen in the post or go small with Warren down low. Either way, we will struggle down there on defense and the boards.
On the bright side, this team will probably give more effort and hopefully not play quite so dumb at the end of games. With the offense flowing through Lewis and Warren, we probably won't have to suffer through quite so many mind-boggling turnovers. 4/29/2013 11:44:53 PM
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costigan Veteran 358 Posts user info edit post |
I hope we can make a serviceable 8 man rotation out of that
Even if it ain't serviceable, bench Vandy and let guys take their lumps 4/29/2013 11:44:54 PM
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skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
Looking at 10-11 losses. 4/29/2013 11:47:05 PM
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packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
I would guess it would be something like this rotation wise. Turner and Warren just about have to start unless the freshmen are better than expected.
Lewis (30 minutes) - Barber (10 minutes) Lee (30 minutes) - Barber (10 minutes) Turner (30 minutes) - Warren (10 minutes) Warren (25 minutes) - Freeman (15 minutes) Anya (20 minutes) - Washington (20 minutes) 4/29/2013 11:59:45 PM
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hey now Indianapolis Jones 14975 Posts user info edit post |
Freeman will not get much more than 5 min a game. Love the signing but he's a few years away. 4/30/2013 12:19:18 AM
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simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "On the bright side, this team will probably give more effort and hopefully not play quite so dumb at the end of games. With the offense flowing through Lewis and Warren, we probably won't have to suffer through quite so many mind-boggling turnovers." |
on the brightest, no one important ever played for sidney lowe.
and i was a supporter at the time. but... it's true.
^ let's get one thing straight: you don't know shit. unless you're going to va for hs games.] 4/30/2013 12:56:11 AM
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OopsPowSrprs All American 8383 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "@goodmancbs: N.C. State and Cincinnati will play in a 5-team round-robin exempt with Campbell, Appalachian State and NC Central, per source." |
Don't know what an exempt is but we are in it. 5/2/2013 4:43:54 PM
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JasonNSCU85 All American 2176 Posts user info edit post |
Wtf, why? Because of missed games?
I am guessing that Campbell, App St, and NCCU will play a round robin, and the winner plays a round robin with NCSU and Cincinnati
Just a guess 5/2/2013 5:22:11 PM
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qwery2 Veteran 261 Posts user info edit post |
It could also mean that every team plays each other except us and Cincinnati. I like ^ idea more, if it means we play Cincinnati. 5/2/2013 5:30:08 PM
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NyM410 J-E-T-S 50084 Posts user info edit post |
Do you guys really not know what an exempt tourney is?
It's a preseason tourney, up to four games, that only counts as one for scheduling purposes. 5/2/2013 6:39:25 PM
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natureboy All American 2781 Posts user info edit post |
It will be crazy seeing basically a whole new team next year after seeing last years guys for so long. Hope this team will improve as the year goes on instead of peaking halfway through like last year. 5/2/2013 10:13:37 PM
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armorfrsleep All American 7289 Posts user info edit post |
Solid article on Ralston Turner:
Quote : | "Ralston Turner's redshirt season was trying.
As a transfer from LSU, Turner couldn't contribute to N.C. State in 2012-13. Watching rather than playing proved difficult.
"I can tell you numerous times I was sitting over there (on the bench) like, 'Man, I just want to play two minutes,' " Turner said. "I knew it wasn't going to happen, but I was cheering for them and patiently waiting."
The wait will be over in about six months.
N.C. State, which has lost five members of a seven-man rotation that carried the team to a 24-11 record, is welcoming at least six newcomers. That group features four incoming freshmen, junior college transfer Desmond Lee and Turner, a 6-foot-6 wing with 60 games of Division I experience.
Turner started all but one of those contests, averaging 12.3 points as an LSU freshman in 2010-11 and 9.1 points as a sophomore. N.C. State will need his scoring given that its returning players accounted for only 21 percent of the points in 2012-13.
"Ralston, I thought, took advantage of a redshirt year as well as you possibly could in the weight room, strength and conditioning, practicing," N.C. State coach Mark Gottfried said during the program's season-ending awards banquet. "I think (he) is kind of flying under the radar a little bit right now, even around the league, as far as what kind of impact Ralston can have."
After 6-8 forward T.J. Warren, who could fill the '4' spot after averaging 12.1 points as a freshman, Turner appears to be the safest bet to start. He could play the '3' if Lee proves capable of handling the '2.'
In 2012-13, 6-6 senior Scott Wood attempted half of N.C. State's 3-pointers and accounted for 56.5 percent of the team's makes. Three-fourths of his career field-goal attempts were 3-pointers, and half of Turner's shots in two seasons at LSU came from long range. He hit 34.6 percent of his 3s, going 99-for-286.
"Three-pointers are probably the best thing I do, but I've tried to work hard on expanding my game a little beyond the 3-point line and do some other things," Turner said. "When I first got here, I was a shooter. All-around, I feel like I've gotten better in a number of areas."
Gottfried, whose 11-season run as Alabama's coach ended in 2009, recruited Turner when he was a standout at Muscle Shoals (Ala.) High School. ESPN ranked him as the 70th-best prospect in the prep class of 2010, two spots behind Fayetteville's Damontre Harris and four spots ahead of former Wake Forest forward Melvin Tabb.
Turner played two seasons for the Tigers under coach Trent Johnson but decided to transfer after one-time Alabama assistant Johnny Jones replaced Johnson, who had resigned to lead TCU's program.
A year later, Turner is part of another program in transition, this one caused by a roster overhaul.
"I'm optimistic about next year, and I'm also excited," Turner said. "I feel like we can come together and do some good things."" |
http://www.fayobserver.com/articles/2013/05/07/1255216?sac=fo.sports 5/7/2013 5:36:33 AM
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The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
what kind of defender is he? we could improve if turner warren and anya defend to their length.
[Edited on May 7, 2013 at 9:03 PM. Reason : longshot] 5/7/2013 9:03:04 PM
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Maverick1024 All American 4866 Posts user info edit post |
FWIW, I read from a few LSU posters that he was a crappy defender. Could be sour grapes ... that's what I'm hoping at least. 5/7/2013 11:37:14 PM
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willembahh All American 2378 Posts user info edit post |
@jwgiglio 43s
N.C. State draws Northwestern in the Big Ten Challenge 5/8/2013 11:48:48 AM
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Jaybee1200 Suspended 56200 Posts user info edit post |
^ also said
"Absolutely love the subtext involved in the ACC/Big Ten matchups. League thought State was good last year, sent them to Michigan. This year? Pack gets Northwestern, 13-19 a year ago with a new coach"
This would be trolling if I said it
[Edited on May 8, 2013 at 11:56 AM. Reason : d] 5/8/2013 11:55:53 AM
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thegoodlife3 All American 39108 Posts user info edit post |
it's 100% true 5/8/2013 11:57:13 AM
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amac884 All American 25609 Posts user info edit post |
SEACAT
[Edited on May 8, 2013 at 12:09 PM. Reason : seacat] 5/8/2013 11:58:41 AM
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ActionPants All American 9877 Posts user info edit post |
I'm fine with having a winnable B1G/ACC game. 5/8/2013 12:00:44 PM
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DROD900 All American 24640 Posts user info edit post |
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5/8/2013 12:17:25 PM
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amac884 All American 25609 Posts user info edit post |
guys, northwestern is going to be great next year...chris collins?!?! 5/8/2013 12:19:45 PM
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packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
Not the RPI boosting game we wanted. I honestly would rather lose to Michigan, Indiana, MSU or Ohio State. Guess it should be a win for our young team though. 5/8/2013 12:31:57 PM
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thegoodlife3 All American 39108 Posts user info edit post |
sound logic there, champ 5/8/2013 12:37:45 PM
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Wolfman Tim All American 9654 Posts user info edit post |
I predict we lose this game 5/8/2013 12:42:10 PM
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bdmazur ?? ????? ?? 14957 Posts user info edit post |
^ 5/8/2013 2:42:36 PM
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The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
i still have nightmares about that 1-3-1 last time we played them. that shit FUCKED us up and some little guard hitting 3s.
This seems like the perfect game for ncstate shit. 5/8/2013 3:51:30 PM
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packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "sound logic there, champ" |
Yeah fuck playing a national title contender like Michigan, let's play a team that we are expected to beat and isn't any good.
If I had that mindset I would pull for your Gonzaga team. 5/8/2013 4:09:18 PM
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thegoodlife3 All American 39108 Posts user info edit post |
wins > losses
and it's 2013. RPI doesn't mean shit anymore. 5/8/2013 5:17:23 PM
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GingaNinja All American 7177 Posts user info edit post |
Last time I checked, in 2013
A loss to a good team > a loss to a shitty team
[Edited on May 8, 2013 at 5:33 PM. Reason : ..] 5/8/2013 5:19:17 PM
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Bullet All American 28165 Posts user info edit post |
[Edited on May 8, 2013 at 5:50 PM. Reason : wrong thread]
5/8/2013 5:48:03 PM
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justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27566 Posts user info edit post |
Well if we lose to northwestern, it will definitely hurt our seeding for that shitty tournament ecu won this year. 5/8/2013 6:49:32 PM
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jocristian All American 7524 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "and it's 2013. RPI doesn't mean shit anymore." |
oh is that why all those high rpi mediocre mid major teams got overseeded high this last tournament? 5/8/2013 7:49:38 PM
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thegoodlife3 All American 39108 Posts user info edit post |
a) over/under seeding isn't a thing. you get seeded on your resume, not what you're expected to do in the tournament.
and
b) look at the RPI going into the tournament and look at where each team was seeded
RPI is, without a doubt, one of (if not the most) overrated "stats" in college basketball 5/8/2013 8:22:51 PM
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tower All American 12280 Posts user info edit post |
Tell Mark Turgeon the RPI is meaningless
[Edited on May 8, 2013 at 8:39 PM. Reason : and herb] 5/8/2013 8:39:22 PM
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Prawn Star All American 7643 Posts user info edit post |
Do you people really think we'll be in contention for the tourney? 5/8/2013 9:20:51 PM
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hey now Indianapolis Jones 14975 Posts user info edit post |
Absolutely. We're going to be good. (top 30-35 good) 5/8/2013 9:29:36 PM
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Prawn Star All American 7643 Posts user info edit post |
Haha let's be serious though 5/8/2013 9:54:07 PM
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OopsPowSrprs All American 8383 Posts user info edit post |
We'll be about as good as we were last year.
Which isn't really that high of a bar 5/8/2013 10:21:03 PM
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Prawn Star All American 7643 Posts user info edit post |
Doubtful 5/8/2013 10:29:40 PM
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tower All American 12280 Posts user info edit post |
we'd be a lock bubble team if the josh davis transfer had worked out
as things stand probably outside looking in but thats why you want a good schedule instead of a herb schedule 5/8/2013 10:37:38 PM
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WolfpckGrl17 All American 5755 Posts user info edit post |
What happened with Josh Davis??? Haven't read anything lately..... 5/8/2013 10:47:19 PM
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Prawn Star All American 7643 Posts user info edit post |
He hasn't announced yet.
Might go to Gonzaga.
[Edited on May 8, 2013 at 10:55 PM. Reason : or San Diego State] 5/8/2013 10:52:35 PM
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Kickstand All American 11454 Posts user info edit post |
^^ like you haven't Facebooked him yet and retweet him every 5 minutes... 5/8/2013 10:55:56 PM
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Bullet All American 28165 Posts user info edit post |
we'll probably not finish in the top3 of the ACC, that's safe to say. But nobody really knows how good we might or might not be in '13/'14. We'll literally be a completely different team: our season will depend on how well warren, lewis, and a bunch of new guys (4 freshmen and 2 transfers) adapt to the system
[Edited on May 8, 2013 at 10:59 PM. Reason : ] 5/8/2013 10:57:26 PM
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Prawn Star All American 7643 Posts user info edit post |
I'm just sayin, I wouldn't put too much faith in a team that will be forced to start at least 1 and maybe 2 freshmen in the post. 5/8/2013 11:08:14 PM
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Bullet All American 28165 Posts user info edit post |
yeah, anya and washington (and maybe freeman) will be asked to contribute immediately. it'll be interesting to see how they (and the team) responds. 5/8/2013 11:19:51 PM
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WolfpckGrl17 All American 5755 Posts user info edit post |
^^^^ Umm....wouldn't do that and I don't have him on FB or Twitter. Good job though. People wonder why females never post in ST.
[Edited on May 8, 2013 at 11:21 PM. Reason : .] 5/8/2013 11:19:55 PM
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titans78 All American 4032 Posts user info edit post |
I wouldn't be surprised if we made the tourney and wouldn't be surprised if we finished last in the ACC.
The freshmen in the post could be totally outclassed, Turner can't hit the side of a barn, Lee isn't able to play at the level expected, Lewis plays like a short white kid, and Warren struggles to get shots without other star players taking the pressure off.
Or the big freshmen come in and as a unit provide quality minutes, rebounding, and team defense(plus some depth so giving some fouls isn't a disaster), Turner is capable of hitting 3s and stretching defenses, Lee fills the Purvis void and is an impact player, Lewis + Cat both handle the point well plus play together well when needed, and Warren is just a handful on the offensive end getting 18+ a night.
First scenario going to be a long season. Second we are a potential 7-11 seed. The ACC should get like half the conference in next year, so finishing 7-9 probably puts you on the bubble and that isn't insane to think we could be in that mix. 5/8/2013 11:30:36 PM
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