Elon publicly expressing confusion (on Fox News) about why anyone is upset.

K.

3/20/2025 7:53:02 AM

WHY IS NO ONE CALLING ME AN ENGINEER

3/20/2025 8:06:05 AM

He's just trying to save America and the world by stopping climate change and get us to Mars.

I was wondering how the post inauguration would work out and if these tantrums would dissuade the general public from the left even more. The strategy of attacking Tesla, specifically given Elon has to be the least empathetic character possible is a good way to put pressure without the risk of hurting the general Public.

The demonization of Tesla for so long on the right. Probably helps them even more.

[Edited on March 20, 2025 at 8:40 AM. Reason : A]

3/20/2025 8:38:47 AM

Elon isn't doing either of those things.

3/20/2025 9:53:41 AM

^ but he says he is.

3/20/2025 10:13:27 AM

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"He's just trying to save America and the world by stopping climate change and get us to Mars."

The first part might have checked out years ago, but how much saving is he doing now by choosing to align with an administration that is decidedly anti-climate, anti-EPA, and pro-oil? And how much saving is he doing by destroying the goodwill he formerly had with those who actually care about the environment and purchased his vehicles and now are embarrassed to be seen driving them because of his completely voluntary political activities? Should we assume that the MAGA faithful are going to become fans and indeed customers of Tesler to support poor Elon?

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"The demonization of Tesla for so long on the right. Probably helps them even more."

Sorry, but helps who even more? I've read it several times and I'm still not clear.

3/20/2025 10:58:49 AM

^ helps the strategy of the left, because the right Elon has aligned with was propagandized against Tesla for so long. They will be slower to come to his defense and get acclimated to him being their friend.

Elon had his fork in the road and took his path. I don't think anyone (60% of population not terminally online) really cares in real life about the cars. Obviously driving one carries risk because violent leftists.

3/20/2025 11:12:50 AM

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" Obviously driving one carries risk because violent leftists."

please, cite an example

3/20/2025 12:18:53 PM

I've noticed that talking point is getting louder...

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"Elon publicly expressing confusion (on Fox News) about why anyone is upset."

Elon on Fox talking about the "left" being violent and mentally ill.

3/20/2025 12:45:11 PM

https://www.wired.com/story/tesla-cybertrucks-made-with-the-wrong-glue-hit-with-yet-another-sticky-recall/

clearly an inside job by violent leftists

3/20/2025 1:05:50 PM

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"Obviously driving one carries risk because violent leftists."

I have some concern for my non-violent leftist relatives who drive a Tesla Model X that was purchased new pre-pandemic before any rightward political involvement was telegraphed. They would probably like to get rid of it, but it's currently impractical to do so. However, they do live in MAGA country, so probably mostly safe from vehicular vandalism for now.

3/20/2025 1:17:40 PM

^ yeah, everyone I know in California voted for Harris hates Trump. One of them retardedly bought the Tesla last year even though he hated Elon. His brother-in-law's car has been vandalized. While I was discussing this with him today, he witnessed a model y drive by with splattered egg on it.


The number of incidents are basically too many to count at this point. Something like a dozen dealerships have been Molotov cocktailed and the number of random vandalism to a private owned car are too many to count.

https://x.com/EndWokeness/status/1902567269508506086

https://www.counton2.com/news/local-news/james-island-man-facing-federal-charges-for-burning-tesla-chargers-in-north-charleston/

3/20/2025 2:01:48 PM

find me a story of a non-parked Tesla being attacked

being egged is not a form of terrorism

[Edited on March 20, 2025 at 2:09 PM. Reason : .]

3/20/2025 2:08:44 PM

I never said it was. Is your distinction because it's just property, a Molotov cocktail isn't violent?

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2025/03/14/tesla-dealership-shot-at-oregon/82407358007/

Targeting a set of people, Tesla owners, who are too afraid to drive their cars in public after being good leftists is terrorism.

[Edited on March 20, 2025 at 2:18 PM. Reason : A]

3/20/2025 2:16:07 PM

find me a story of a non-parked Tesla being attacked

3/20/2025 2:25:40 PM

I asked why? Chaos party not really chaos party because cars were parked when being shot at and fire bombed.

3/20/2025 2:48:46 PM

"Chaos party"? You're hard to take seriously.

3/20/2025 4:20:32 PM

^ https://thehill.com/homenews/media/513902-cnn-ridiculed-for-fiery-but-mostly-peaceful-caption-with-video-of-burning/

Let's burn down everything because reasons. Let's destroy the existing order, so we the moral can take our rightful place. Tesla's and property of the innocent be damned.

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"How art thou fallen from heaven, O [h]Lucifer, son of the morning? and cut down to the ground, which didst cast lots upon the nations? 13 Yet thou saidest in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, and exalt my throne above beside the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation in the sides of the [i]North. 14 I will ascend above the height of the clouds, and I will be like the most high."

3/20/2025 4:54:03 PM

Clown

3/20/2025 5:01:53 PM

True Believer

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"It is probably as true that violence breeds fanaticism as that fanaticism begets violence. It is often impossible to tell which came first. Both those who employ violence and those subject to it are likely to develop a fanatical state of mind. Ferrero says of the terrorists of the French Revolution that the more blood they “shed the more they needed to believe in their principles as absolutes. Only the absolute might still absolve them in their own eyes and sustain their desperate energy. [They] did not spill all that blood because they believed in popular sovereignty as a religious truth; they tried to believe in popular sovereignty as a religious truth because their fear made them spill so much blood.”28 The practice of terror serves the true believer not only to cow and crush his opponents but also to invigorate and intensify his own faith."

3/20/2025 5:07:43 PM

I realize some people who identify as Democrats may be fanatical and prone to violence, but it's ridiculous that you're apparently trying trying to claim that the Democratic party is the party of fantacism and violence. When MAGA is the base of the Republican party now. Jeez man.

3/20/2025 5:17:28 PM

Expert trolling.

3/20/2025 5:20:11 PM

It's not domestic terrorism, they're just LARPing like the J6ers

3/20/2025 5:27:33 PM

^^ let me know when MAGA starts burning down every major city and shooting random supporters.

The effect is roughly the same between parties and I acknowledge it's happened (with J6 being a great example). The disaffected 20 year old with nothing to lose is going to be swayed to a holy cause.

My larping comment stated that viking guy would not be making trade deals. They had no organizing force and Trump backed off. They needed strong elite backing to actually overthrow the gov. Which they got with Elon et all. It was just done democratically this time.

3/20/2025 5:47:17 PM

How about you stop making excuses and equivocating for shitty people.

3/20/2025 6:38:23 PM

every major city was never burned down

nobody on the left has shot random supporters

[Edited on March 20, 2025 at 6:56 PM. Reason : .]

3/20/2025 6:53:29 PM

[Edited on March 20, 2025 at 6:55 PM. Reason : .]

3/20/2025 6:55:26 PM

^^ https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killings_of_Aaron_Danielson_and_Michael_Reinoehl
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congressional_baseball_shooting


The city I lived in still has 40% less retail traffic (part due to Covid) but the protesters set fire to a sushi restaurant and destroyed my optometrist.

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"However, arson, vandalism, and looting that occurred between May 26 and June 8 caused approximately $1–2 billion in insured damages nationally, the"

[Edited on March 20, 2025 at 7:28 PM. Reason : A]

3/20/2025 7:25:36 PM

Good thing you moved to Florida where nothing bad ever happens.

3/20/2025 7:34:18 PM

When the hot civil war starts it's probably better to be in a more ideologically homogeneous region that's less strategic. NC probably a good choice too if you aren't in Wake county.

3/20/2025 7:46:57 PM

^^^ neither example meets the criteria you alleged

[Edited on March 20, 2025 at 8:22 PM. Reason : .]

3/20/2025 8:22:29 PM

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"surveillance camera evidence showing that Reinoehl had spotted Danielson and Pappas walking behind him and had hidden in a parking garage to let them pass.[11][36] When Danielson and Pappas crossed the road, Reinoehl, joined by an associate, followed them"

Guy stalks right wing supporter and shoots him. "This is not left wing violence" tgl

3/20/2025 9:15:08 PM

that sure doesn’t sound random, which is the way you originally framed your argument

3/20/2025 9:30:47 PM

https://www.newsweek.com/trump-touts-prison-el-salvador-tesla-attackers-2048498

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""I look forward to watching the sick terrorist thugs get 20 year jail sentences for what they are doing to Elon Musk and Tesla," Trump wrote Friday morning on his Truth Social platform. "Perhaps they could serve them in the prisons of El Salvador, which have become so recently famous for such lovely conditions!""

But remember, qntmfred said we need to recognize Elon is Engineer and Scientist!

3/21/2025 2:33:19 PM

Maybe we should stop poking the bear on that. He stopped posting completely, and that was never my intent.

But, I'm no fan of the current embodiment of this Elon Musk guy. He had a positive reputation. He blew it up for reasons all his own.

3/21/2025 2:53:54 PM

^^ do you want people willing to shoot and fire bomb businesses they disagree with the owners to go free?

https://x.com/KatieDaviscourt/status/1902951863819112867

3/21/2025 3:06:39 PM

^^ nah, dude had a bullshit take and thinks is hysterics when I pointed out the painfully obvious. His take on the VA cuts was insulting as hell, so I'm gonna be petty even if he's taken his ball and gone home.

^ because clearly "I don't think the president should threaten to deport them" means "they should be totally free"

3/21/2025 3:17:36 PM

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"https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killings_of_Aaron_Danielson_and_Michael_Reinoehl "

This is basically gang violence. Tragic but not part of normal trends

The Tesla attacks are part of a long-standing tradition of political protests, but part of that tradition is facing consequences if you get caught. But I expect these to grow as Elon becomes more perverse in his attacks on America.

Re Elon musk:
“St. Clair, 26, filed two petitions against Musk last month seeking a court-ordered paternity test and sole custody of the 6-month-old she claims she shares with the Tesla CEO.”

In response, Musk “substantially reduced his financial support towards the child.”

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/elon-musk-ashley-st-clair_n_67ddb6dce4b01b30cdda595a

[Edited on March 21, 2025 at 5:54 PM. Reason : Db]

3/21/2025 5:49:33 PM

https://www.instagram.com/johncleeseofficial/reel/DFvMt-qpMSm/

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"The great thing about having enemies is that you can pretend that all the badness in the whole world is in your enemies and all the goodness in the whole world is in you. Attractive isn't it? So if you have a lot of anger and resentment in you anyway and you therefore enjoy abusing people then you can pretend that you're only doing it because these enemies of yours are such very bad persons. And that if it wasn't for them you'd actually be good-natured and courteous and rational all the time. So if you want to feel good become an extremist. Okay, now you have a choice. If you join the hard left they'll give you their list of authorized enemies. Almost all kinds of authority, especially the police, the city, Americans, judges, multinational corporations, public schools, various newspaper owners, fox hunters, generals, class traitors and of course moderates. Or, if you'd rather be an extremist on the hard right, no problem. Fine you still get a lovely list of enemies only they're different ones noisy minority groups, unions, Russia, weirdos, demonstrators, welfare sponges, meddlesome clergy, peaceniks, the BBC, strikers, social workers, communists and of course moderates and upstart actors. Now once your armed with one of these super lists of enemies you can be as nasty as you like and yet feel your behaviors morally justified. So you can strut around using people and telling them you could eat them for breakfast and still think of yourself as a champion of the truth, a fighter for the greater good are not the rather sad paranoid schizoid that you really are.""

3/21/2025 7:09:12 PM

Charmingly dated that Cleese listed Russia on the enemies list of the hard right. To his credit, the list IS from the past.

But I agree with Americans being enemies of the hard left. I have certainly grown to hate them / us.

3/21/2025 8:23:18 PM

^^
The lists there are stupid but the sentiment is correct. Society’s default configuration is feudal warlords (oligarchs) getting too powerful and killing their neighbors. Obviously Europeans were slaughtering each other by the millions at the first part of the 20th century. Americans killed each other by the millions in the 19th century.

We’ve only had a temporary reprieve from this from the 1970s to now thanks to liberal democratic principles, mainly diversity equity and inclusion.

Now Elon musk and trump following Yarvin’s philosophies want to undo this so they can again have feudal warlords seizing territory and ruling as benevolent philosopher kings who will of course never have to use violence to maintain their power or ideals of society.

[Edited on March 21, 2025 at 8:24 PM. Reason : ]

3/21/2025 8:24:09 PM

Trump certainly doesn't follow any philosophy. He doesn't know what a philosophy is.

3/21/2025 8:26:46 PM

^
True he’s just in it for himself, hence him pimping out the US government to musk

3/21/2025 9:02:48 PM

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"Obviously Europeans were slaughtering each other by the millions at the first part of the 20th century. Americans killed each other by the millions in the 19th century. We’ve only had a temporary reprieve from this from the 1970s to now thanks to liberal democratic principles, mainly diversity equity and inclusion. Now Elon musk and trump following Yarvin’s philosophies want to undo this so they can again have feudal warlords seizing territory and ruling as benevolent philosopher kings who will of course never have to use violence to maintain their power or ideals of society. "

Funny you keep bringing Yarvin up when Mentioned it 4 years ago. Have you actually read any of it?

https://www.unqualified-reservations.org/2009/07/carlyle-in-20th-century-fascism-and/

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"Only one simple demonstration is required. You see, for Carlyle the pair of prophecies described earlier—the rise of democracy in the 20th century, and the extraordinary level of political murder in the 20th century—are not independent predictions. They are causally connected. The rise of democracy is the cause of the Holocaust, etc. While this proposition seems self-evident to Carlyle, pretty much no one believes it today. Will historians eventually conclude that he was right? If so, Carlyle beats them by 150 years—and counting. Counting for a while yet, I suspect. To the democrat, of course, nothing could be further from the truth. Rather, democracy appears as the cure for the 20th-century’s political ills. A cure born in serendipitous synchrony to its disease, like the Monitor for the Merrimack. It reaches the scene of the crime just in time to try to save the victims. Succeeding for most, sadly failing for some. So you may see some blood on its hands or clothing."

3/22/2025 8:15:04 AM

I’m just not capable of doing the triple backflip mental gymnastics to blame the West (the USA, really) for every ill of the 20th Century. It reads like the author is a right wing tankie. Except instead of blaming American capitalism for being evil, he blames American democracy? You have to remove so much agency from so many other actors to get there and that’s coming from someone that pretty willingly admits USA’s history is a mixed bag at best.

The author points out that Carlyle’s perspective is uniquely British and uniquely Victorian and I couldn’t agree more. From King George III to sometime well into the 19th century there was a faction of snobby British douchebags that expected America to collapse into a hillbilly dictatorship. But hillbillies understand egalitarianism in a way that old money inbreds never can. Well, that used to be the understanding, I guess time will tell.

3/22/2025 7:02:14 PM

I’m not seeing your point. You seem to be affirming that he hates democracy and this is the agenda trump musk is enacting. I guess we’re in agreement? If you’re finally admitting that you prefer white supremacist fascism and the dissolution of American global leadership, and hate data driven decision making, then we’re finally all on the same page about where things stand.

3/22/2025 7:09:09 PM

Yes Yarvin hates democracy, but it has nothing to do with white supremacy. I agree with Yarvin that we were in a fake democracy (oligarchy) that was hidden from view and not doing its job (people shitting on the streets, infra crumbling despite huge expenditures, runaway inflation). Yarvin argues in order to fix it you need an executive ala FDR. We got Trump and Elon which seems to be trying to follow that idea, with some big misses.

Thiel and his ilk are now the ideological base of the Republicans and have actual power.

3/22/2025 7:41:33 PM

3/23/2025 9:14:46 AM

I'm not sure Elon Musk ever said, wrote, or did anything that I actually thought was objectively funny.

3/23/2025 2:54:55 PM

https://www.newsbreak.com/share/3865666843846-the-tesla-secret-that-exposes-elon-musk-s-whole-game

3/24/2025 9:39:11 AM