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6/25/2011 5:58:30 PM

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"What Davis has done is tarnish both the athletic and academic reputation of the state’s flagship university"

Hey, fuck you

6/25/2011 7:05:17 PM

Sorry if it's already been posted.

Can Davis keep his job at UNC?
http://collegefootball.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1234810

6/25/2011 7:43:27 PM

3 no
1 yes
1 waffler

and an NC State shoutout from the waffler!

6/25/2011 7:59:16 PM

Love it. We must make sure we completely demolish them and send Butch out with his tail tucked between his legs.

6/25/2011 11:15:50 PM

UNC fans talking shit on the facebook event for the game this year. Seriously? Is now the best time to throw stones from that glass house of yours?

6/26/2011 12:30:57 AM

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"Even if Davis pleads "ignorance" to the conduct of those he's responsible for supervising, he shouldn't be absolved of wrongdoing. In fact, pleading ignorance is as bad as knowing about wrongdoing and doing nothing about it."

6/26/2011 4:34:24 PM

6/26/2011 10:26:46 PM

^LOL.

I love how they're the only ones who say they've been the pinnacle of cooperative. And they say it as if it's a fact...truth is, none of us know if the university was or was not cooperative with the investigation. We do know that the individuals named in the NOA (Blake, Wiley were named specifically...other names were obviously edited out) repeatedly misled investigators and lied to them.

6/26/2011 11:06:05 PM

from the live chat with nc state compliance, lulz

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"Comment From Cookie Monster Me know a student-athlete being recruited by NC State, how I know what constitute improper benefit if Cookie Monster already have pre-existing relationship with athlete? Carrie Doyle: Good question, Cookie monster. The two main components in evaluating whether a relationship is ‘pre-existing’ or not are that the relationship can’t be based on athletics and has to pre-date the SA’s recruitment by the institution."

6/26/2011 11:41:29 PM

Cookie Monster wants to keep from getting caught with his hand in the cookie jar.

6/26/2011 11:46:43 PM

I said this months ago, before it became even a blip on the national radar other than 2-4 minutes pregame before they played LSU, that the honor court shenanigans were beyond disturbing if you value your degree. They had Kendric Burney and his father both admitting that Burney committed "mistakes" that were an honor court violation (He was held out 6 games from the NCAA and one from UNC while they expidited his case to the front of the line with the honor court). They ended up just taking back the credit for the class altogether I think. When you have the accused admitting to an honor court violation and he gets zero suspension, that's bad academically, let alone the football. Has nothing to do with paying recruits, funneling money from agents yada yada. An intentional violation of the honor code from an individual on scholarship and publicly admitting to it with no consequences was the point of no return that I saw publicly. Nothing since then has surprised me.

6/26/2011 11:49:49 PM

i know of two scholarship students at state who got caught cheating on a final and just received failing grades

6/27/2011 12:09:52 AM

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"I love how they're the only ones who say they've been the pinnacle of cooperative. And they say it as if it's a fact...truth is, none of us know if the university was or was not cooperative with the investigation. We do know that the individuals named in the NOA (Blake, Wiley were named specifically...other names were obviously edited out) repeatedly misled investigators and lied to them."

UNC's defense is that they were both "rogue" and therefore not part of the institution. So if they're uncooperative, hey, that's just two people who aren't associated with UNC being uncooperative.

6/27/2011 6:35:26 AM

lol - Wiley's picture and last name are now gone from the wedding page

6/27/2011 9:29:45 AM

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"i know of two scholarship students at state who got caught cheating on a final and just received failing grades"

In all honesty, aside from cases of severe academic fraud (like blatantly plagiarizing a published paper), receiving a failing grade for the class you were caught cheating is is typically the only punishment for first time offenders.

6/27/2011 10:07:56 AM

^^, Yea I mentioned on the previous page it'd get yanked real quick, can't believe it took 48 hours.

^^^^
Who knows, maybe the professor thought he could handle it in house without honor court? If it went to honor court and scholarship people were let off the hook with a failing grade, that's bad. And not that it matters, but I wonder if the students admitted to it, in a newspaper and formal interviews.


[Edited on June 27, 2011 at 10:15 AM. Reason : .]

6/27/2011 10:12:19 AM

But receiving a failing grade for a football player can fuck up their academic standing. A lot of those dudes tip toe that eligible/not eligible line so a 0 can do some pretty serious damage to your GPA.

6/27/2011 10:47:24 AM

Heather Dinich still bringing the "pain" and lulz against UNCCHEAT. She gives her opinion on the relative hotness of the head coaching seat, 3.0 is the highest mark she gives to any coach in the ACC.

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"Butch Davis, North Carolina: 3.0 My take: He's still there? Tom O'Brien, NC State: 2.0 My take: The program seemed to turn the corner with last year's nine-win season, but the pressure is on to continue that success without Russell Wilson and without flashy recruiting classes. "

6/27/2011 3:38:40 PM

"flashy recruiting class" = blinged out watches?

6/27/2011 5:45:23 PM

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"lol - Wiley's picture and last name are now gone from the wedding page"

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"dont worry, it's been retained for posterity"

6/27/2011 6:17:11 PM

why does it need to be saved?

6/27/2011 6:44:11 PM

The fact that they removed it only further confirms that it is her.


[Edited on June 27, 2011 at 7:04 PM. Reason : ]

6/27/2011 6:56:05 PM

shit dont matter if they have removed it or not
put shit on the internet like that and more than likely you will never get it off

6/27/2011 8:10:31 PM

http://www.bobleesays.com/Blogs/BobLee-Says/June-2011/Those-Chinamen-Still-Don-t-Care.aspx

Very good

6/27/2011 9:13:39 PM

That was awesome. Every fan base should read that, especially this part:

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"The outcome of Butch Mess will have ZERO Effect on UNC “that guys”. Over-the-top obnoxiousness survives any scandal, any four straight (and counting) losses .... you name it. “That Guy” is going to keep on harassing his assigned Wolfpacker from beyond the grave. “That Guys” are the Ninjas of The Carolina Way. Obnoxious jackasses completely impervious to any reality. If WolfNation measures “success” by putting “that guy” in his place it's too late - he’s already there. Imbedded in the epicenter of The Brickyard. NOTE: There are Wolfpack “that guys” too but UNCers are oh so much more obnoxiously effective."

6/27/2011 10:58:25 PM

"That guys" are UNC fans that never have stepped foot in Chapel Hill, let alone attended UNC...

6/27/2011 11:00:41 PM

I know a lot of girls who went to UNC and are definitely "that guys". But they were also major jersey chasers in school.

And if most of their "That guys" are Wal-Mart fans, that doesn't say much about our "That Guys" who actually graduated from State.

6/27/2011 11:15:42 PM

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"Q: Why has Little Johnny Swofford not uttered a single statement? A: That answer is too obvious to bother with. "

What's the answer?

6/28/2011 10:19:26 AM

Carolina alum and former athletics director

6/28/2011 10:24:18 AM

no no, Dave Glenn has already informed everyone that Swofford hasn't commented because he just doesn't do that sort of thing

6/28/2011 10:38:39 AM

^lol. Dave Glenn is retarded.

6/28/2011 12:18:55 PM

oh the ACC COMMISSIONER hasn't commented because he doesn't do that sort of thing?

sounds like we need a new ACC commissioner

6/28/2011 12:22:03 PM

Lee Fowler for new ACC Commissioner!

6/28/2011 12:49:24 PM

^Then the conference really would take a hit to its basketball legacy.

Sorry, the ACC missed the NCAA tourney this year.

[Edited on June 28, 2011 at 1:47 PM. Reason : -]

6/28/2011 1:43:58 PM

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"no no, Dave Glenn has already informed everyone that Swofford hasn't commented because he just doesn't do that sort of thing"

Now listen, you can or can not feel this way about John Swofford, that's your right and in the sports world, as we all know, people sometimes can and do or do not feel in ways that we may or may not agree with. The real question that any thinking man, any scholar, any paragon of intelligence, any person of rational intellect, basically and essentially anyone besides a mouth-breathing, cro-magnon, idiotic, syphilitic, message board idiot would ask is whether you have enough evidence to justify that feeling. Without evidence, you can only be convicted in the court of public opinion and as I know and you know and the lovely and talented Maria knows and my producer who I address by his full name knows, the court of public opinion only matters in horseshoes and tiddlywinks. More insightful information after the break.

6/28/2011 2:04:28 PM

lol, what is that from? It cracks me up every time.

6/28/2011 2:40:49 PM

^^hahah

6/28/2011 4:48:09 PM

He tried to make the argument that Swafford had never commented on ongoing investigations, but the way he worded it and set it up it sounded like he was saying that he had never commented on an investigation of the UNC football team which made zero sense. This is the same commish that was strong worded the day after the FSU girls soccer team sat out the ACC tournament to prepare for NCAA tournament.

6/28/2011 5:11:24 PM

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"Yeah, can somebody who knows more than me explain how vacating past wins is really punishment?"

it's a feel-good measure. but it sure as hell aint a punishment. if they really wanted to punish the school, they'd make the school pay back all monies earned in bowl games and tv revenue and the like. make it an actual damned punishment.

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"Busty bridesmaid/tutor. http://www.amanda.and.chrisbarefoot.com/bridalparty.php"

hahahahaha. they took the picture down (RedX) and removed the last name. damn, this coverup is DEEP. Also, Elizabeth McGuire looks like a FREAK in the sac, lol. wayback didn't have it. Google's cache from June 17th doesn't have the picture, but it does have her last name

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"I make work calls on my phone, but I'm not letting anyone see my personal stuff. How is this any different and yes, I'm a government employee."

bad news, then: your personal stuff is now public record. that's just how it is. Otherwise, no government employee would use their business phone for anything, so they could hide everything.

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"I saw on WRAL this evening the new info about the parking tickets (someone already linked that N&O article above) and they said that Marvin Austin's information was not released by UNC yet because he wasn't part of the court ordered release. It'll be very interesting when his parking records, cars, etc get released."

god damn, what fucking scumbags. what in the fuck would make them NOT think his shit was also related? jesus, these guys are dicks in the 1st degree. I wish we had a damned AG who gave a shit about upholding the law in our governmental organizations

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"Wiley has lawyered up, refusing to talk to NCAA investigators about any of it."

at which point the NCAA should say "you are guilty as sin, we'll punish the fuck out of the program. thank you, have a nice day."

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"Okay obviously a lot of us would love it if UNC received the Death Penalty, which isn't going to happen b/c that's only give out for repeat offenders, but what kind of penalties would make you satisfied with the NCAA's judgment? "

only the death penalty. UNC clearly didn't give a fuck about the rules. It's a HUGE thing to have a damn agent ON THE STAFF, much less as #2 in command. Then they didn't fucking cooperate. And then there is evidence they were laundering money through tutors? really? throw the whole god damned LIBRARY at them.

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"truth is, none of us know if the university was or was not cooperative with the investigation."

the NCAA sure doesn't think they've been cooperative.

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"And not that it matters, but I wonder if the students admitted to it, in a newspaper and formal interviews. "

I also wonder if the university then ignored its academic calendars and helped said student out by putting him into a class well after the add date (*cough*special treatment*cough*)

6/28/2011 5:13:48 PM

So apparently Butch refuses to turn over his 216 area coded phone records and bank records to the NCAA.



I would at this point expect the NCAA to slap a show cause on his ass and UNC to let him go really soon. There's no way in fuck UNC doesn't get hammered at this point.

6/28/2011 8:41:34 PM

So much for that full cooperation......

6/28/2011 8:47:06 PM

^^link? or is the media dragging their feet on this one too?

6/28/2011 8:51:01 PM

I hope they fire butch. Piss him off and he suddenly "realizes" his lil slut tutor nanny also wrote papers for the bball team. BAM!

6/28/2011 8:52:38 PM

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"So apparently Butch refuses to turn over his 216 area coded phone records and bank records to the NCAA. I would at this point expect the NCAA to slap a show cause on his ass and UNC to let him go really soon. There's no way in fuck UNC doesn't get hammered at this point. "

Only place I have seen this is on Packpride. I hope like hell it is true but I am a little doubtful. I imagine the NCAA has already seen those records (otherwise there would have been some mention in the NOA) however I am still WAITING FOR HIS FUCKING EMAILS TO BE SHOWN...

6/28/2011 8:53:17 PM

6/28/2011 8:53:24 PM

still a redx. they took the picture down with the quickness

6/28/2011 9:26:46 PM

Things I am hoping the media is working on:
-Butch's emails why the hell have they not been seen yet?
-Unredacted NOA UNC cited FERPA but they seemingly redacted the names of some of their football staff in certain sections WTF (also the redactions seem to indicate multiple tutors...)? Butch very easily could have been named in the NOA but UNC may have redacted his name.
-216 number getting it released and understanding if the NCAA did or did not already have access to this info (and butch's bank info to determine Wiley's pay).

6/29/2011 8:24:11 AM

I can imagine UNC redacting Davis' name from the NOA. That would get called out instantly.

Seeing how UNC is doing everything to not release the 216 phone records I can't imagine they were forthcoming in releasing them to the NCAA. I'm sure they gave them the same story: Look no calls, I just didn't conduct ANY business over the phone.

Also wondering if the NCAA already looked into the vehicle plates/registration/parking/etc. issues.

[Edited on June 29, 2011 at 8:43 AM. Reason : -]

6/29/2011 8:42:04 AM

Scoring to his magisty WaffleIron on packpride, butch has refused to release his 216 records and his bank records.

Obviously it will have to go to court to get those phone records because he used it as his work phone.

6/29/2011 9:14:10 AM