They're really setting themselves up for the fail when the hammer drops

7/6/2011 6:18:40 PM

yup, I agree

7/6/2011 6:22:37 PM

re: them being on the list, the key is "major infractions cases"

7/6/2011 6:42:54 PM

Case in the same breath as Dean. Outrageous. Dean never had any trouble with dirty recruiting. Kept that big nose of his clean. He never cheated. Not once.


As far as he can recall.

7/6/2011 6:43:00 PM

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"peace, war and defense major"

It's the people who have garbage liberal arts degrees that talk the most shit about us. Most of my UNC friends respect the education I have received at State; and the only ones that do not have degrees like Women's Studies or what this douche has.

[Edited on July 6, 2011 at 6:45 PM. Reason : ]

7/6/2011 6:43:10 PM

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"cheatingest"

I like this dude, because I too make up words when trying to prove a point.

7/6/2011 7:33:26 PM

cheatingest sounds like something some old prospector would say in Toy Story

7/6/2011 7:58:23 PM

Wait. I thought having NCAA infractions was a sign you're an elite program.


Yet they say we are irrelevant. Which is it asshats?

7/6/2011 8:14:44 PM

so this paper was seen by the original professor, UNC honor court, NCAA, and some high profile lawyers but it took some packpride message board tards to notice McAdoo plagiarized most of it?

WTF? Noah Henningstonwhatever the Third has to be feeling a little stupid right now

7/6/2011 8:28:19 PM

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"re: them being on the list, the key is "major infractions cases""

exactly.
JimmyV? -1
DT playing a pickup game after signing? -1

7/6/2011 8:31:44 PM

What's the deal with McAdoo? He got ruled ineligible by the NCAA for a combination of academics and benefits? Maybe the NCAA saw that he had plagiarized or something

7/6/2011 9:17:16 PM

http://cgi.ebay.com/UNC-The-Carolina-Way-Reputation-/140573539486?pt=US_NCAA_Fan_Shop&hash=item20bad5fc9e#ht_500wt_922

7/6/2011 9:18:22 PM

hahahahaha

7/6/2011 9:18:59 PM

That is awesome. Clever Wake fan indeed.

7/6/2011 11:56:04 PM

http://www.wralsportsfan.com/unc/story/9827245/

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"In the notice of allegations issued June 2 to North Carolina, McAdoo's attorneys note, the NCAA included some allegations related to McAdoo that were incorrect. "A major problem with the NCAA disciplinary system is it consistently denies students basic due process rights," said Robert Orr, a former justice on the North Carolina Supreme Court. "In addition to a lack of legal representation, in the NCAA system, the student is presumed guilty until proven innocent and is compelled to cooperate under threat of future penalty." Orr said that students are not given hearings and many are unable to afford attorneys. "The student is literally left hanging out to dry with no recourse," Orr said. "The NCAA says, 'We don't really care. He can never play again.'""

7/7/2011 12:48:10 AM

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"Q: If I win, may I choose which charity my $$$ will be donated to? If so, please donate my winning bid to the Fund to Keep John Blake Quiet. That $75,000 in hush money that UNC paid me after I re-signed didn't last as long as I hoped it would. Thank you, John Blake A: The so-called "Educational Foundation" at the University of North Carolina is the most likely charity; however the NCAA Foundation (designated adn permanently restricted for use by the Infractions Cmte) is running a close second."

7/7/2011 12:53:18 AM

A few quotes from Mr. McAdoo's research paper that got him in trouble:

"The religion of Africa may be unequally divided under three heads: Christianity, Mohmmedanism and Paganism."

"These winds have been blowing with metronome regularity for aeons"

Pretty much the whole paper had been found to be plagiarized by just googling random phrases.

Our young scholar during his interview with the NCAA:

"Uh, well, like I say, I'd, , uh, I guess we're referring to the Swahili 402 pap and my, so I'm just gonna start by saying, I wasn't assigned to that tutor at first. I had another tutor so i mean I worked on the paper but when, um when it got toward the end I sent her the paper or whatever and she reached out and I mean, just help like that."

7/7/2011 2:13:01 AM

did a former NC SC justice say such a stupid fucking thing? He does realize that the NCAA is NOT a court of law, right? take off the baby blue blinders, dude

7/7/2011 3:32:42 AM

^^ Someone on PP had a good suggestion. Ask him to read his "own" paper out loud.

7/7/2011 6:29:43 AM

^^ I thought the same thing. Surely he's not that stupid, but alas, he is. Can't wait for that to get ripped apart by the defense. What a dumbass.

7/7/2011 8:45:57 AM

http://charlotte.cbslocal.com/2011/07/01/facts-optional-in-unc-investigation/

The whining is un-friggin-believable

7/7/2011 8:54:36 AM

^from the comments section:

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"Colin, You should have thought twice before submitting this whiney piece of drivel. Go check yourself for a bleeding vagina. Sincerely, Your Friend"

7/7/2011 9:44:21 AM

His reply

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"Colin I am doubting you’re really a friend. July 6, 2011 at 6:27 pm | Reply | Report comment"

lol

7/7/2011 9:45:52 AM

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"Heels4Ever Thank you Colin for calling out the sensationalists. For you Haters in Raleigh, Envy is an ugly thing….about like your last date."

Heels4Ever with a sick ass burn

7/7/2011 9:51:34 AM

At least my last date was with a woman

7/7/2011 9:55:47 AM

The lawyer has a point. Regardless of the NCAA not being a court of law, one of the founding principles of the United States is freedom from oppression through many checks and balances, one of which is due process. The NCAA, as an entity, gets to decide punishments and change futures for students based on what can amount to no more than hearsay. Just because you aren't in a government building doesn't mean you don't deserve human rights. In your job, in the eyes of the law, and (it should be) in the course of action from the NCAA that people are allowed due process, that people should have the ability and the option to defend themselves, and that the choices of the NCAA should be held up to scrutiny. /soapbox

That said, I hope mostly that sooo much more dirt comes out against UNC. I am hoping for a shocker moment when they are like, "The NOA said [McAdoo] did this, but that was [someone otherwise unaffiliated with the investigation]." And this happens several times throughout the proceedings.

7/7/2011 10:16:07 AM

Yeah but I think you have to look at this more as a business than as a government perspective.

Institutions in the NCAA could of course leave the NCAA but they don't because there is more money there than say the NAIA etc. They could form their own association as well but that is at least in the short term also less profitable. Schools and students therefore as being members have to meet the requirements of this organization or deal with the consequences of this above and beyond what the government demands.

What screws people up here is that the schools are more often than not government institutions so it seems like this is really a government issue and not a school/business issue.

Also the only way I think you can really make this a government or rights issue is the fact that basically everyone colludes to prevent guys from being unable to play whenever by the age limits they have to go to college and can't go to the NFL, but he could still go play for any non NCAA school etc.

7/7/2011 10:27:39 AM

TWW can infringe on my right to free speech by deleting any comment of mine that they choose to.

The government isn't allowed to randomly drug test, but your company does. And if you don't like it, you can choose to not be a part of that company.


[Edited on July 7, 2011 at 10:36 AM. Reason : ]

7/7/2011 10:32:44 AM

^ Exactly, theres a lot of bitching about the NCAA but I'd love to see your school decide to leave and go play a bunch of bible colleges. See how that works out for you.

7/7/2011 10:33:43 AM

Technician on Woflpack Athletics and our Compliance Department

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" Meanwhile, N.C. State's compliance department has been watching and changing the face of the Wolfpack athletic programs to make sure nothing like this happens at the University. Senior wide receiver T.J. Graham said since the investigation began in Chapel Hill, the compliance department has changed the way they treat social media for the players. "Our support staff at compliance watches over what we do," Graham said. "They want to make sure we don't do anything to put the school or our program in danger like some people down the road might have done. C.J. Williams, a senior guard, has also recently starting tweeting and said he is well aware of the implications that social media can have when used improperly. "They tell us honestly to be careful what we say," Williams said. "Regardless of whether you delete something after you say it, it's still out there and people can still see it. So they tell us to watch what we say and to understand that people are always reading and watching." Many new players coming to State, such as transfer point guard Alex Johnson or incoming freshman forward Tyler Harris, already have Twitter accounts. Williams said he feels responsible for helping the new players learn how to use social media properly. "I have a Facebook and a Twitter, so I try to talk with some of the newer players about how to be responsible on both," Williams said. "I talked with Tyler Harris recently about his account on Twitter as soon as I found out he committed. I assume that responsibility as a leader on this team." "

7/7/2011 12:23:11 PM

I love how no one in the local media is willing to comment on the issue of McAdoo's paper being a very poor attempt at plagiary (it was packpride who caught it after all). All I have heard today is how poor little McAdoo is getting mistreated by the cruel NCAA...

7/7/2011 8:56:51 PM

Sports by Brooks finally steps up and fills in for the local media guys
http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/unc-ad-defends-players-stolen-work-to-ncaa-29775

7/7/2011 11:39:43 PM

^interesting read for people who think PP is tl;dr like me

if UNC's only argument is improper citations, then Wiley's worth as a tutor should be called into question

My only question is who copy and pasted all the other info, McAdoo or Wiley, either way, UNC's honor court / Dick Baddour / etc don't give a shit how their football players

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"Write original papers"

7/8/2011 12:08:35 AM

^^Someone please send to local and national news outlets. I would, but am too tired

[Edited on July 8, 2011 at 12:19 AM. Reason : -]

7/8/2011 12:18:15 AM

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""I have a Facebook and a Twitter, so I try to talk with some of the newer players about how to be responsible on both," Williams said. "I talked with Tyler Harris recently about his account on Twitter as soon as I found out he committed. I assume that responsibility as a leader on this team." "

Can't help but pull for CJ Williams.

7/8/2011 12:21:43 AM

"That paper was totally my work, except for the parts my tutor wrote." - McAdoo

7/8/2011 9:50:04 AM

I actually feel a bit sorry for him after reading that article. I really could see a run-of-the-mill person of football intelligence thinking that you could grab entire paragraphs of data as long as you put a footnote in. I've certainly seen significantly worse papers written by football players that I could hardly read due to the abhorrent grammar and spelling (can't remember if that was MA, TA McFumbles, or someone else).

Granted, this should have been caught before now (like in high school?) and the teacher should have caught the badness and if nothing else, offered him help to fix it. Though I am also certain most teachers in any university would probably turn the other way for a football player like this.

7/8/2011 10:18:45 AM

Could the original publisher of that content sue UNC for plagiarism? We need to milk this for all we can get

7/8/2011 11:04:26 AM

Could the original publisher of that content sue UNC for plagiarism? We need to milk this for all we can get

[Edited on July 8, 2011 at 11:12 AM. Reason : Now you can sue me Peter]

7/8/2011 11:12:48 AM

To quote what a very intelligent individual on The Wolf Web said on July 8th, 2011 "Could the original publisher of that content sue UNC for plagiarism? We need to milk this for all we can get". I agree with this sentiment.

7/8/2011 12:28:05 PM

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"person of football intelligence"

7/8/2011 12:52:35 PM

how could someone who talks like this:

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"“Uh, well, like I say, I’d, , uh, I guess we’re referring to the Swahili 402 paper and my, so I’m just gonna start by saying, I wasn’t assigned to that tutor at first. I had another tutor so i mean I worked on the paper but when, um when it got toward the end I sent her the paper or whatever and she reached out and I mean, just help like that."

ever write a full academic paper without copy-paste from someone with real intelligence?

7/8/2011 1:34:31 PM

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/andy_staples/07/08/unc-ncaa-michael-mcadoo/index.html?eref=twitter_feed

7/8/2011 2:38:42 PM

lol.

7/8/2011 2:45:05 PM

^^my favorite part is the picture they chose to use for the article is McAdoo groping/tackling his own teammate, TJ Yates (presumably in a spring game or something) but still struck me as funny.

7/8/2011 2:55:06 PM

wonder how UNC fans will spin it...I'm guessing they either bash Andy Staples and urge other fans to boycott Sports Illustrated, or they talk about how a friend of theirs who went to State wrote papers for Mario Williams and that the NCAA should investigate Rawlee

7/8/2011 3:00:01 PM

this reminds me of being younger and getting in trouble, using the excuse, "well so and so did it too"...that never went over well

7/8/2011 3:07:00 PM

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"http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/andy_staples/07/08/unc-ncaa-michael-mcadoo/index.html?eref=twitter_feed"

LOL, our fans are relentless.

7/8/2011 3:09:05 PM

i particularly like that he gave State a shout, albeit calling it "a few bored State fans"

7/8/2011 3:10:21 PM

Just out of curiousity, what are the differences that account for several FSU players cheating on their language test (I think it was) and getting sidelined for 4 games and McAdoo cheating on up to three papers and getting banned from the NCAA as a result?

Does he have a decent case for reinstatement?

[Edited on July 8, 2011 at 3:54 PM. Reason : I mean, if 1 instance of cheating =30%, I suppose 30%*3= 90%...]

7/8/2011 3:53:35 PM