lol. now they're trying to say it's an iOS4 problem since it occurs on the 3G too.

http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2010/06/24/that-ios-4-reception-issue-is-looking-more-and-more-like-a-software-bug/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84Lpt2YkF3Q

6/24/2010 4:05:49 PM

^ lol @ the comments

6/24/2010 4:11:28 PM

Well holy shit

I just did that twice to my 3GS.

Bars go all the way down over several seconds and then when I put it back on the desk they pop back up.

edit:

By go down I mean all the way down to no bars and then drops in to edge.

[Edited on June 24, 2010 at 4:22 PM. Reason : .]

6/24/2010 4:20:59 PM

... it's like i'm reading a transcript from xbox live

6/24/2010 4:21:56 PM

I've done this 5 times in a row. The 3GS has a metal band around the front face but I didn't think the antenna used it.

6/24/2010 4:26:26 PM

I just can't fathom what part of the OS they could tie to whether or not the phone is held that could cause this issue. Proximity sensor would be my only guess.

[Edited on June 24, 2010 at 4:32 PM. Reason : .]

6/24/2010 4:31:50 PM

No clue. Anybody else with a 3GS wanna try?

[Edited on June 24, 2010 at 4:33 PM. Reason : ^ Isn't the proximity sensor just on the front? Next to the ear piece? ]

6/24/2010 4:32:32 PM

My 3gs running 3.1.3 has the same problem...

6/24/2010 4:38:22 PM

i haven't had any reception problems or changes w/ my 3gs on iOS4. seems as if I keep the signal a hair better than before.

[Edited on June 24, 2010 at 4:43 PM. Reason : ie, holding bars another half mile into a known dead-zone and not dropping bars while holding it]

6/24/2010 4:40:18 PM

I have no issue on my iPhone 3GS with iOS4.

6/24/2010 4:51:51 PM

Things worked out for me with the lines today ...

I waited in line this morning til 830, and got a ticket ...

Then I left and returned around 3, hopped in the short reserved line, and got both my reserved iPhone and a non reserved one.

AND ... the people who had been right in front of me in line were STILL in line when I returned ... only finished 10 minutes before I did ... they were there from 4:45am til 4:00pm ... That is crazy ... especially in that heat.

My extra one sold on ebay for 1175, to a guy in California... not sure why that fool bought it, but hey ... works for me.

6/24/2010 5:08:58 PM

holy shit, 1175?? wtf

6/24/2010 5:13:04 PM

hmmm, decided to restore my new iphone4 and it seems to be hung up. Gets to about 2/3 of the way across the bar on the screen and just stops. Itunes seems to be stopped as well. This isn't good.

6/24/2010 5:30:26 PM

Quote :

"I have no issue on my iPhone 3GS with iOS4."

6/24/2010 5:30:48 PM

got my at&t preorder one about 1pm... loving it, so must faster than my 3g. the high rest screen is pretty awesome.

pleasant surprise, considering it was listed as backordered up until yesterday

^^^^ got the money yet? ha thats a lot for a phone.

[Edited on June 24, 2010 at 6:08 PM. Reason : .]

6/24/2010 6:07:45 PM

Quote :

"holy shit, 1175?? wtf"

[Edited on June 24, 2010 at 6:18 PM. Reason : haha]

6/24/2010 6:18:25 PM

I just had a 10 minute conversation with my hand covering the bottom left, I kept checking and I was at zero bars and the call didn't drop. Doesn't really prove anything one way or the other, but I'm glad the call didn't drop.

6/24/2010 7:32:33 PM

I was out of town and couldn't get to the mall until about 6:30. Total clusterfuck. They would have to have a turnover time of about 2-3 minutes per person to have any hope of getting through the line of people with reservations before the mall closed. Fuck me for assuming a reservation meant I'd actually be able to get one. Blerg. I might go back early in the morning, but I haven't decided yet. I'm pretty pissed.

6/24/2010 7:32:58 PM

The browsing is just so damned quick. I am finding that I can do things quicker even with the small screen than my older home laptop.

6/24/2010 7:40:05 PM

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=949790

6/24/2010 7:59:57 PM

lol

6/24/2010 8:10:14 PM

^^Woooooow ... I ... expected it, but I didn't actually EXPECT his responses to be like that.

Replies from Steve Jobs in that thread:

Quote :

" Steve Jobs on the signal issues: "Non issue. Just avoid holding it in that way." "All cell phones have sensitive areas. Just avoid holding it in that way." Steve Jobs on iPhone4 availability: "Sorry. Too many customers wanted their phones on day one. The laws of physics prohibit this, so some will be upset.""

6/24/2010 8:34:46 PM

he's like fuck you bitccheessss lolol

6/24/2010 8:47:49 PM

haha

6/24/2010 8:52:30 PM

Regardless of issues I'm hopeful that iPhone 4 has a better signal when held the right way...

per http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/25/technology/25apple.html?src=busln

"Even Brian Lam, Gizmodo’s editorial director, saw an upside to the iPhone 4, antenna problems and all.

“We are paying attention to the antenna issue because it could be a big deal,” he said. But Mr. Lam said that for years, he had not been able to use his older iPhones to make calls from his apartment. That changed on Thursday, after he bought an iPhone 4. “I have made three hours of calls today,” he said."

[Edited on June 24, 2010 at 9:08 PM. Reason : perhaps the 3G/3GS cases used on the iPhone 4 prototypes prevented the engineers from seeing this...]

6/24/2010 9:03:34 PM

Anybody found any decent games that take advantage of the gyroscope? I downloaded Eliminate: Gun Range, but it wasn't really anything super special. I'm surprised they didn't have a free tech demo or something for the gyro just to show off it's capabilities in some way.

6/24/2010 9:09:52 PM

I just want to say I just finished a downgrade/restore to 3.1.3 from iOS 4.

finally

now why couldn't I find that tutorial last night? it had all the right files linked within. poof! works.

sweet.

6/24/2010 9:26:47 PM

I can repeat this issue with my 3GS with 4.0. I didn't notice because I have a case.

6/24/2010 11:58:41 PM

Hahaha http://iphonehold.tumblr.com/

6/25/2010 12:16:21 AM

On antennas and cell phones:

http://www.antennasys.com/antennasys-blog/2010/6/24/apple-iphone-4-antennas.html

A bit apologetic, but good information none the less. Unless I'm misunderstanding his point though, even if FCC test don't require you to actually hold the phone, it seems awful sloppy of a company who prides themselves on every last detail to not test that.

6/25/2010 12:42:44 AM

^ ditto fo sho

I was thinking as I was reading these posts... "don't tell me they didn't actually test the iPhone by holding it, calling with it, etc. in its final, production version

I mean, wha?!?

6/25/2010 4:41:45 AM

Quote :

"Steve Jobs on iPhone 4 Reception Issues: You're Holding It Wrong"

http://www.dailytech.com/Steve+Jobs+on+iPhone+4+Reception+Issues+Youre+Holding+It+Wrong/article18842.htm

6/25/2010 8:20:24 AM

^Goddamn you're a worthless user

6/25/2010 8:31:31 AM

don't get upset, it's just news related to the thread




[Edited on June 25, 2010 at 8:35 AM. Reason : .]

6/25/2010 8:35:25 AM

So my phone discharged from 73% to about 63% last night over 7 hours. I remember my non-jailbroken 3gs maybe going down 1% over night. Anyone experiencing this discharge? Maybe i just have to calibrate/charge it full a few times.

6/25/2010 8:48:52 AM

For those of you who insist on continuing to own flawed electronics, allegedly the iPhone 4 fits in docks made for the original iPhone.

So you can save yourself a couple of bucks on that and put it towards a bumper instead.

6/25/2010 8:48:56 AM

Speaking of bumpers, did anyone actually buy one yesterday? How are they?

6/25/2010 8:56:33 AM

Quote :

"No clue. Anybody else with a 3GS wanna try?"

Confirmed with my 3GS. Never noticed it because I use a case, but I just took it out.

Ive been messing around. it has nothing to do with the metal band on the 3Gs. If my hand covers the back of the phone like it does when making a phone call, the bars dissapear.

If i picked it up by the metal band and keep my hand from covering the rear of the phone, nothing happens; I stay at full bars.

6/25/2010 9:18:43 AM

As much as I hate the antenna problem i was planning on getting a case anyway. I'm sad I'm going to cover up the nice metal band but I'll probably be getting a bumper after work today. I've dropped by 3gs before and the only thing that saved it was a case that covered the sides which I think the bumper case will do.

6/25/2010 9:20:03 AM

I'm not going to give apple another $30 to fix their problem. I'll wait 2 weeks for all the other internet knockoffs to sell that strip of rubber for $10.

6/25/2010 9:21:25 AM

Quote :

"Speaking of bumpers, did anyone actually buy one yesterday? How are they?"

yup
it's actually pretty nice

6/25/2010 9:31:11 AM

I made $100 buying the iPhone 4 so i'm going to go ahead and get the bumper case. Be sad to cover the nice metal though.

6/25/2010 9:31:51 AM

6/25/2010 9:32:25 AM

haha

6/25/2010 9:34:23 AM

Ok words with friends is pretty freaking sweet. Just make a move and wait for your friend to.

6/25/2010 9:50:07 AM

Get a silicon case for 4.99 with free shipping ... coupon code MLC211758060625NL1

http://www.meritline.com/skytouch-black-silicone-skin-apple-iphone-4---p-46226.aspx

and a screen protector for 1.99 /free shipping

http://www.meritline.com/screen-rotector-guard-apple-iphone---p-45369.aspx

I bought my ipad screen protector there as well for 2 bucks ... I like it alot...

Takes about 2 weeks to receive from china.

... Actually, they have a bunch of iphone 4 stuff to choose from:

http://www.meritline.com/newsearch.aspx?SearchTerm=iphone+4

[Edited on June 25, 2010 at 9:54 AM. Reason : more]

6/25/2010 9:50:56 AM

Quote :

"Confirmed with my 3GS. Never noticed it because I use a case, but I just took it out. Ive been messing around. it has nothing to do with the metal band on the 3Gs. If my hand covers the back of the phone like it does when making a phone call, the bars dissapear. If i picked it up by the metal band and keep my hand from covering the rear of the phone, nothing happens; I stay at full bars."

Makes me wonder how much of the "GRRRRR AT&T sucks and keeps dropping my call" is actually Apple's fault and not AT&T.

6/25/2010 10:02:35 AM

^good point

6/25/2010 10:08:51 AM

only downside to the bumper that i've seen so far is that they made the opening for the dock connector the EXACT size of the one on the included USB sync cable... so, of course, no other accessory's dock connector fits

6/25/2010 10:15:19 AM

^Steve Jobs: Not a problem, get a different accessory. (?)



[Edited on June 25, 2010 at 11:05 AM. Reason : .]

6/25/2010 11:04:58 AM