CharlieEFH All American 21806 Posts user info edit post |
blue air... 7/29/2007 4:16:52 PM |
beatsunc All American 10749 Posts user info edit post |
damn i hate tony stewart. at least i get to look forward to seeing him getting fined for saying "bullshit" on TV 7/29/2007 6:05:28 PM |
Wolfpackman All American 1882 Posts user info edit post |
Stewart is the man. He says what he feels like saying and he's not some sorry pantywaste who sponsors only hire because they look good and fit their mold. 7/29/2007 6:07:57 PM |
beatsunc All American 10749 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "He says what he feels like saying" |
which always happens to be how nothing is ever his fault and everyone else is too incompetent to drive a race car or officiate a race.7/29/2007 6:15:41 PM |
bethaleigh All American 18902 Posts user info edit post |
^ FTW 7/30/2007 2:45:28 PM |
stowaway All American 11770 Posts user info edit post |
gg robby. excellent race up in montreal. 8/4/2007 7:17:30 PM |
vinylbandit All American 48079 Posts user info edit post |
GG Robby.
The only question I have is whether there was a yellow in the corner station previous to where Robby made the pass for the lead. If yes, he should've gone back to second. If not, he should've stayed in the lead. On top of that, if Ambrose punted him under yellow, it should've been a black flag.
Either way, great finish, and nice job by Harvick and Carpentier of going hard without wrecking each other, especially since Harvick looked like he had forgotten to drive for the entire first green lap. 8/4/2007 7:20:58 PM |
beatsunc All American 10749 Posts user info edit post |
nascar screwed the pooch on that finish, no way they followed their own rules. it is possible that robby was spun out before the full course yellow came out which would put him in 17th. but i dont think they should have went green with him in 2nd. 8/4/2007 7:30:02 PM |
ENDContra All American 5160 Posts user info edit post |
If they hadn't of went green with Gordon in second, the would have just ran around under caution until everyone ran out of gas...because Robby Gordon wasnt going to pull over, and everyone knew that.
Most fun Ive had watching a NASCAR race in a long time. Loved RG doing the burnout like he won the race at the end...I'm sure he would have drove into victory lane if the officials hadn't surrounded his car. 8/4/2007 7:57:53 PM |
beatsunc All American 10749 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "just ran around under caution until everyone ran out of gas" |
maybe they could have red flagged it, everyone also knew that RG was going to punt Ambroes(sp)
[Edited on August 4, 2007 at 8:10 PM. Reason : g]8/4/2007 8:06:38 PM |
vinylbandit All American 48079 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "it is possible that robby was spun out before the full course yellow came out which would put him in 17th." |
It's not possible, they were the first two cars through the chicane where the spin happened (so no chance of a local yellow) and the corner station after the chicane was showing a waving yellow. The issue is whether or not the previous corner station was displaying yellow at the time the pass was made.
Ambrose punted Gordon deliberately under yellow, he deserved a black flag or a punt, and that's what he got.8/4/2007 8:39:57 PM |
Nighthawk All American 19623 Posts user info edit post |
Fuck RG, he shoulda tried to win the race for real, not just by knocking him out. Ambrose did tap him, but it was to be expected after he had just spun him out, possibly under caution then as well. So they both hit each other under the yellow, so both should have been black flagged or not.
However that shit aside, the race with Harvick was fucking great, and reminds why I love NASCAR....as long as its on a damn road course. 8/4/2007 9:07:22 PM |
vinylbandit All American 48079 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I love NASCAR....as long as its on a damn road course." |
8/4/2007 10:32:12 PM |
beatsunc All American 10749 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "The issue is whether or not the previous corner station was displaying yellow at the time the pass was made." |
my understanding is that only full course yellows affect scoring and not local yellows. if you spin under green then the yellow comes out immediately you get scored where you get back in line.8/4/2007 10:53:38 PM |
billyboy All American 3174 Posts user info edit post |
This race defines why the road courses have grown so much on me. I liked this track as well. If only they'd get rid of this Pocono race, and race there (opinion may change if Jr. wins, but I hate Pocono).
[Edited on August 4, 2007 at 11:00 PM. Reason : I hate Pocono] 8/4/2007 11:00:30 PM |
CharlieEFH All American 21806 Posts user info edit post |
Pocono's great
where else are you going to find scalene triangle racetrack? 8/5/2007 12:47:40 AM |
Beardawg61 Trauma Specialist 15492 Posts user info edit post |
Phoenix? 8/5/2007 12:57:35 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148450 Posts user info edit post |
Who should I run tomorrow? 1 A lister, 2 B listers and 1 C lister
Drivers Race Stats Fantasy A List Jimmie Johnson 4/9 Chevrolet 7 7 - - - - - 0 Tony Stewart 5/9 Chevrolet 24 24 - - - - - - B List Juan Pablo Montoya 0/9 Dodge 9 9 - - - - - 0 Martin Truex Jr. 4/9 Chevrolet 13 13 - - - - - 0 Kyle Busch 7/9 Chevrolet 3 3 - - 3 - - 3 Denny Hamlin 7/9 Chevrolet 6 6 - - - - - - C List Reed Sorenson 1/9 Dodge 10 10 - - - - - 0 J.J. Yeley 7/9 Chevrolet 27 27 - - - - - - 8/5/2007 1:04:25 AM |
Beardawg61 Trauma Specialist 15492 Posts user info edit post |
Right now I'd take the 20 and the 24 over the rest of the field. : \
Although, momentum notwithstanding, Denny Hamlin may be the fave going in. If he's a b-lister, take it!
[Edited on August 5, 2007 at 1:08 AM. Reason : DH] 8/5/2007 1:06:47 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148450 Posts user info edit post |
Denny and Kyle qualified 6th and 3rd respectively but I've used each of them 7 of my allotted 9 times already, thats my only dilemma! 8/5/2007 1:10:15 AM |
Beardawg61 Trauma Specialist 15492 Posts user info edit post |
D00d, y00 scr00ed the p00ch if that's the case... I think Hamlin's avg finish at Pocono is like 2.2... He swept last year if I'm not mistaken. If he could win anywhere it's there.
Denny Hamlin is to Pocono as Jimmie Johnson is to Charlotte 8/5/2007 1:13:02 AM |
CharlieEFH All American 21806 Posts user info edit post |
yeah...um Phoenix is an oval with a corner 8/5/2007 1:14:04 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148450 Posts user info edit post |
i can add and drop players every week so i can play denny no problem but i have to select my drivers for the week by saturday and thats my list this week and the X/9 is how many times I've raced them already 8/5/2007 1:28:14 AM |
TaterSalad All American 6256 Posts user info edit post |
i hate robby as much as the next guy, but that was some straight up nascar bs. There they go making their own rules up as they go along. 8/5/2007 1:44:46 AM |
vinylbandit All American 48079 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "my understanding is that only full course yellows affect scoring and not local yellows. if you spin under green then the yellow comes out immediately you get scored where you get back in line." |
That's my point. The full course yellow was definitely out at the time Ambrose spun Gordon, because the flag for the full course yellow is being displayed in the corner station after the chicane before the spin happens. The question is whether or not the corner station before the chicane had the full course yellow out when Gordon and Ambrose passed, because that's what determines whether or not Gordon's pass was made under yellow.8/5/2007 2:16:50 AM |
billyboy All American 3174 Posts user info edit post |
I've said it before, but I hope that Tony Eury Jr. is not Dale Jr's crew chief next year. He seems to make the car worse with his last minute adjustments (i.e. the shock change yesterday). The team's best stretch this season was while he was suspended.
haha, hero to hobo.
[Edited on August 5, 2007 at 4:46 PM. Reason : hobo] 8/5/2007 4:41:53 PM |
Flyin Ryan All American 8224 Posts user info edit post |
The new NAPA Michael Waltrip commercial is the best I've seen this year.
[Edited on August 5, 2007 at 5:30 PM. Reason : .] 8/5/2007 5:29:55 PM |
Jeepin4x4 #Pack9 35774 Posts user info edit post |
^^ i have a hard time agreeing with this statement
[Edited on August 5, 2007 at 7:28 PM. Reason : but i can almost say for certain eury jr. won't follow dale jr. to hms] 8/5/2007 7:28:01 PM |
Flyin Ryan All American 8224 Posts user info edit post |
^ Yes, Hendrick is far far too smart to hire Eury Jr. to be Earnhardt Jr.'s crew chief.
[Edited on August 5, 2007 at 8:34 PM. Reason : .] 8/5/2007 8:33:50 PM |
beatsunc All American 10749 Posts user info edit post |
^Jr gave him a job at JR motorsports already.
nascars statement about robbie gordon: Quote : | "Once the caution came out on Lap 72 the field was frozen. Once the field is frozen, all cars must maintain cautious pace in order to be scored" |
8/5/2007 10:20:42 PM |
stowaway All American 11770 Posts user info edit post |
Jr gave Eury Sr. a job at JRM.
Nascar is talking out their ass. If gordon had spun ON HIS OWN then yeah, he'd have to fall back in line. 8/5/2007 10:31:13 PM |
billyboy All American 3174 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "i have a hard time agreeing with this statement" |
Well, it's almost the "Herb situation." We couldn't quite crack into the next level with him. There would be an occasional flash of brilliance, but also many critical setbacks. Execution and clutch decisions were a weakness. I think certain moves this season made by Eury have hurt this team at times. Look at today for example. When the team went back to the original shock package from the 1st half of the weekend, look at what happened. I don't think Eury is a bad crew chief, but I don't think he can help Jr. win a championship. That being said, the team did a good job getting the shock changed, and getting him track position toward the end of the race.
And yes, I enjoyed that NAPA commercial.8/5/2007 11:58:26 PM |
hershculez All American 8483 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Earnhardt’s spin on lap 122 might have saved him. During the ensuing caution period, crew chief Tony Eury Jr. decided to change Earnhardt’s shocks on pit road. Thanks to Pocono’s two-minute yellow-flag laps, the pit crew managed to complete the job while keeping Earnhardt on the lead lap." |
amazing8/6/2007 10:40:37 AM |
billyboy All American 3174 Posts user info edit post |
So Kyle Busch is driving for Gibbs in the 18 car next season. Busch and Tony on the same team will be fun to watch. It could be interesting as well if JGR goes to Toyota. 8/7/2007 1:02:03 AM |
baonest All American 47902 Posts user info edit post |
bttt bo'... go jaun pablo' today and tomorro'
[Edited on August 11, 2007 at 3:57 PM. Reason : -] 8/11/2007 3:57:27 PM |
Turnip All American 5426 Posts user info edit post |
Kyle and Tony..will be one hell of a pissed off team
[Edited on August 11, 2007 at 4:15 PM. Reason : w] 8/11/2007 4:14:55 PM |
bethaleigh All American 18902 Posts user info edit post |
I hope they have an anger management specialist on scene all the time!!
I like Kyle, I will like him no matter where he goes - UNTIL a little bit of Tony rubs off on him. When he starts throwing temper tantrums like the 5 year old Tony Stewart is... he's off my list!
As for Junior... I won't be pulling for him for a while... I'll have to see how he takes to the Hendrick guys. 8/11/2007 5:30:12 PM |
CharlieEFH All American 21806 Posts user info edit post |
you know...i've never heard them sing the colombian national anthem before a race... 8/12/2007 2:04:04 PM |
PrufrockNCSU All American 24415 Posts user info edit post |
Is it just me, or did the guy singing Star-Spangled Banner get a couple of words wrong? 8/12/2007 2:05:09 PM |
CharlieEFH All American 21806 Posts user info edit post |
dude said "over" instead of "o'er" 8/12/2007 2:07:52 PM |
PrufrockNCSU All American 24415 Posts user info edit post |
I thought he kinda screwed up something around the bombs bursting part. 8/12/2007 2:11:35 PM |
stowaway All American 11770 Posts user info edit post |
woohoo, COT on the road course 8/12/2007 2:28:51 PM |
billyboy All American 3174 Posts user info edit post |
DEI and another engine. Well, at least the Jr. nation won't have to worry about that next year. 8/12/2007 4:16:29 PM |
stowaway All American 11770 Posts user info edit post |
damnit truex.
fuck you harvick. 8/12/2007 4:35:21 PM |
CharlieEFH All American 21806 Posts user info edit post |
harvick??
Juan Pablo's a little punk bitch 8/12/2007 4:36:16 PM |
stowaway All American 11770 Posts user info edit post |
for trying to explain he got punted first and try to walk away from the confrontation?
fuck harvick. 8/12/2007 4:39:49 PM |
CharlieEFH All American 21806 Posts user info edit post |
no
for just being Juan Pablo 8/12/2007 4:41:22 PM |
erice85 All American 4549 Posts user info edit post |
i think pablo could beat harvick's punk ass
harvick & stewart = nascar's two big babies who can wreck anyone but want to fight when someone wrecks them
[Edited on August 12, 2007 at 5:00 PM. Reason : .] 8/12/2007 4:57:58 PM |
CharlieEFH All American 21806 Posts user info edit post |
poor jeff gordon...
well not really
but kinda 8/12/2007 5:40:51 PM |
CharlieEFH All American 21806 Posts user info edit post |
and poor carl edwards 8/12/2007 5:42:40 PM |