^hear yee

10/6/2007 8:01:59 PM

I would hardly call this current sack of shit that we call a football team "athletes"

10/6/2007 8:02:12 PM

lets see, we need a new center, a qb with a brain, a punter, an entire o-line, and apparently running backs made of steel.

[Edited on October 6, 2007 at 8:05 PM. Reason : ]

10/6/2007 8:02:38 PM

I hope Daniel Evans never takes another snap. He sucks ass. Burke may be worse, but I would rather see someone who can throw the ball over 20 yards and not look like a deer in headlights when getting rushed.

10/6/2007 8:02:51 PM

We have to shotgun it because our QB would get planted as soon as he got the ball.

10/6/2007 8:03:00 PM

Is it statistically possible for Burke to be worse than Evans and Beck? Unless he's going to throw 6-8 interceptions a game, we might as well give him a shot because he's no worse.

10/6/2007 8:05:15 PM

we won't lose next week, guaranteed

10/6/2007 8:06:05 PM

ha, OPEN is going to kick our ass. They're favored by 80

10/6/2007 8:06:43 PM

lolzers

10/6/2007 8:07:41 PM

Our schedule gets much easier from here on

take the bye week, settle down, give Burke some reps

maybe we can win one or two

10/6/2007 8:11:12 PM

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"lets see, we need a new center, a qb with a brain, a punter, an entire o-line"

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"lets see, we need a new center, a qb with a brain, a punter, an entire o-line"

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"lets see, we need a new center, a qb with a brain, a punter, an entire o-line"

10/6/2007 8:13:27 PM

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"we don't have a chance getting anything other than leftovers in nc or florida. it'll be a dogfight for leftovers against ecu and wake with the void from butch davis. then in florida you have fau and ucf getting the leftovers from uf usf fsu and miami miami. we're pretty much screwed unless you think tob can outrecruit butch davis which isn't realistic at all."

I guess you haven't seen the current recruiting rankings so far, or know that we have the top 2 players in the state committed.

Rivals has us at #21 and Scout has us at #24. North Carolina on the other hand is ranked #43 by Scout and #44 by Rivals. And TOB isn't done yet. There are a lot of good players still on the board. We just need to do our job as fans by filling the stands every game which will help TOB out in getting these guys to come to Raleigh.

http://recruiting.scout.com/a.z?s=73&p=9&c=14&yr=2008
http://rivals100.rivals.com/teamrank.asp?SID=880

10/6/2007 8:18:30 PM

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"We just need to do our job as fans by filling the stands every game which will help TOB out in getting these guys to come to Raleigh. "

crazy brassman is right... well put

10/6/2007 8:19:55 PM

monorail cat and Icanhascheezburger.com are making me not hate this football team.

10/6/2007 8:21:49 PM

as bad as this season is. we need to stick by TOB and let him recruit better talent.

10/6/2007 8:30:25 PM

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"I hope Daniel Evans never takes another snap. He sucks ass. Burke may be worse, but I would rather see someone who can throw the ball over 20 yards and not look like a deer in headlights when getting rushed."

i agree . . . but to be honest, he did throw a couple longish passes today

10/6/2007 8:44:48 PM

just wait till TOB recruits guys who can play o-line, then the pretty much any qb we have in will look great cause they will have time to throw, and our running backs will have gaps to run in. im almost positive rivers would look like shit with the o-line weve been having for the past several years

10/6/2007 9:01:23 PM

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"For those of you doubting TOB, look at BC,"

I also like to think this, but to hear it from BC fans TOB's coaching was the only thing preventing them from being what they are today.

10/6/2007 9:57:29 PM

bullshit. BC hasn't played anybody worth a shit. We'll find out what they're made of in the next couple weeks. They'll choke down the stretch.

[Edited on October 6, 2007 at 10:01 PM. Reason : ]

10/6/2007 9:58:58 PM

I've only read the last page of this thread, but whoever posted this

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""we don't have a chance getting anything other than leftovers in nc or florida. it'll be a dogfight for leftovers against ecu and wake with the void from butch davis. then in florida you have fau and ucf getting the leftovers from uf usf fsu and miami miami. we're pretty much screwed unless you think tob can outrecruit butch davis which isn't realistic at all.""

Please, shut the fuck up. You don't have a fucking clue what you are talking about.

The rest of you

WHAT THE FUCK DID YOU EXPECT

ANALYST PICKED US DEAD FUCKING LAST BEFORE THE SEASON STARTED

I SAW SOME OF YOU COCK KNOBBLERS TALKING ABOUT POSSIBLY .500

ARE YOU SHITTING ME?

THEN YOU DIPSHITS GET PISSED OFF LIKE IT IS SOME SURPRISE

AND START QUESTIONING THE COACH WE JUST HIRED

WHO HAS A PROVEN TRACK RECORD

BECAUSE HE IS TRYING TO MAKE A BUNCH OF NON PLAYERS THAT WERE BROUGHT IN



BY THE COACH WE FIRED BECAUSE HE SUCKED


fuck it

some of you clowns will never get it

10/6/2007 10:03:28 PM

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"FSUs special teams > NCSUs special teams"

Me on page one. And I got called out. I remembered that when that one punt went for 16 yards and the very next one went for a whopping 21.

10/6/2007 10:14:31 PM

ESPN Bottom 10, here we come!

10/6/2007 10:16:08 PM

lol bottom 10

"Way to suck NC State, as your 9-knee-surgery losers suffer yet another injury to running back Andre Brown and are forced to start 3rd-stringer Jamelle Eugene. Also plz to learn how to block/pass/win."


lol but seriously, i think half of what got us here is the injuries, and the other half is just not being great to begin with.

10/6/2007 10:23:22 PM

I think that after a couple of years Tom O'Brien will have us looking good, but as far as UNC is concerned, I think that Davis is probably still ranked low because the top guys in the country usually wait to commit.

Unfortunately, I think that Davis will be pulling a top five class. I hate it, but they have more money than us, they have more leeway with the rules, they have a longer history, etc.

I sometimes wish that a nuclear weapon would get dropped on the conceit that is UNC-CH, but even a terrorist knows that school is worse for the USA by existing than by being destroyed.

[Edited on October 6, 2007 at 10:29 PM. Reason : i hate me]

10/6/2007 10:23:58 PM

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"I think that Davis is probably still ranked low because the top guys in the country usually wait until March or April to commit."

March or April? You realize that signing day is in February, right?

Also, if you were to just go look at some of the rankings of the top players in the country, you'd see that the majority has already committed.

10/6/2007 10:27:32 PM

sorry i am wasted

[Edited on October 6, 2007 at 10:28 PM. Reason : and angry]

10/6/2007 10:27:59 PM

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"Hopefully the #22 recruiting class in the nation can turn this program around...we will not win another game this year"

If I was a top ranked player I would look elsewhere, if I had already signed I'd be looking to back out, and if I had a kid that was a top ranked player I'd advise him to go to a more prestigious school. In short... why would any decent recruit want to come here after this season?

The only answer I can come up with is guaranteed playing time. And maybe because being surrounded by a bunch of bad players makes even a mediocre performance seem outstanding.

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"Also the strength and conditioning coach needs to be fired."

qft

10/6/2007 10:36:57 PM

Oh I don't know, perhaps b/c TOB has a proven track record, we have great facilities, playing time, we have a great recruiting class, and perhaps those players want to play along side other good players. Andrew Wallace said that one of the factors that made him confident in his decision was b/c we already had a great class along with liking State from the get go. Look at some of the top ranked players that go to USC and then sit on the bench for most of the time. Kids want to get their name out there so that they can get some press and recognition which gives them a better shot at getting drafted. If you go to a BCS school and do well you will get a lot of press no matter what. If you go to a BCS school and light it up early, that means you get more press coverage over the minimum three years that you have to stay in school rather than sitting on the bench behind another great player for two years then just getting press in your 3rd year. It is not that hard to understand why a Top 150 player would want to come play at State. We have a good coach and we have gotten our name out there in recent years for our ability in putting players in the NFL. NC State is now respected amongst the youth as a school that can get you to the NFL, and now we have a coach that will put top talent into more than just high draft picks and will have them winning too. Some of you are sounding like Tarhole fans.

10/6/2007 10:52:53 PM

this year is fucking meaningless, i refuse to care until tom gets his own players and has two to three years to coach those players. After that, if he can't duplicate what he did at BC, time to starting sucking Cowher's ballsack. If he doesn't come home, I hear Ocain might be available.

/sarcasm or am i?

10/6/2007 11:46:16 PM

Having had some time to cool down, I think our defense actually looked a little better today. If you take away the Evans INT return and the bizarre roughing the punter/bullshit no-call interference on Carr TD sequence, they gave up 13 points. The DL actually got pressure on Lee. Baby steps, to be sure, but steps nonetheless.

OL, QB, and injuries are going to continue to kill us, though.

10/7/2007 12:44:36 AM

i am going to go ahead and agree with you

I thought that we had a chance till we got ROYALLY fucked on that roughing and pass interference bullshit

I still don't think we win, but I bet its like 20-13 or something and we have a last second chance

10/7/2007 12:51:03 AM

^^I agree. Although I doubt we would have won regardless, those were several bad calls that put the game away when it still was within reach.

10/7/2007 1:24:15 AM

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"Unfortunately, I think that Davis will be pulling a top five class. I hate it, but they have more money than us, they have more leeway with the rules, they have a longer history, etc. "

top 5???

are you fucking retarded?

10/7/2007 9:55:14 AM

Rivals Top 250
http://rivals100.rivals.com/viewrank.asp?ra_key=1738

If I counted correctly, there are 82 uncommitted players in Rivals Top 250. State currently has 3 in the Top 100. There are only 32 uncommitted players in the Top 100. Carolina doesn't have any players from even the Top 250 committed. So everyone saying Bitch Davis is going to outrecruit TOB lets wait and see, b/c so far he hasn't had much luck. I'm not giving him any credit for last years good class, besides Marvin Austin and convincing Greg Little to stay home instead of Notre Dame. Most of those guys were already shored up with Bunting and they probably realized they were getting an upgrade in coaching and stayed along. We'll see how Bitch Davis will do recruiting wise when he doesn't have a D-IA pipeline in his backyard.

[Edited on October 7, 2007 at 10:33 AM. Reason : ]

10/7/2007 10:32:16 AM

I don't put much stock into the "star ratings" or any other ratings for recruits.
That doesn't mean anything if they can't play at the college level.

There have been too many times where I've read on this message board, as well as others, about how we have this awesome person coming in and they will turn the program around...then they get here and are a dud...

There are some 1 and 2 star recruits who play better than 4 and 5s

10/7/2007 10:39:44 AM

Recruits look at more then what a team had done in the current season to decide if they want to go to a school. The logic of recruits only go to teams that are currently having good seasons makes no sense.

Besides all this talk about recruiting classes is garbage anyway. Its about getting the right players, not just the ones that have a lot of stars next to their name.

10/7/2007 10:45:24 AM

Average star ratings are a good indicator of the quality of a team's recruiting class. The existence of outliers (2 stars who become good, 5 stars who suck) doesn't change this fact.

10/7/2007 10:47:00 AM

Well a Manny Lawson is an exception. We were able to develop him really well. If you don't develop players and have good coaching it doesn't matter how good your recruiting class is. See FSU basketball getting the #1 rated recruiting class and not even going to the NCAA Tournament during the entire time those players were there. You look at tOSU and USC and the reason why they were able to do so well in the past years is b/c besides getting elite talent they are also good at developing those outstanding players. They also have to be able to fit in your system, and those two schools are good at recognizing what players will fit into their system. This is one reason why they have been so dominant and ranked in the Top 10 every year for the last couple of years. You may be able to coach up a 2* undersized DB to play well, but that still won't make him any taller and be able to make a play on a jump ball when he's going up against a 6'4" WR that can jump out of the gym. The key to being successful recruiting wise is talent evaluation. You can't cross the Atlantic in a dingy.

[Edited on October 7, 2007 at 10:52 AM. Reason : ]

10/7/2007 10:50:09 AM