McCain just had a look like he sharted himself. LOL

9/4/2008 11:03:07 PM

we put money towards education and it doesnt seem to help...is it the kids? teachers? parents? school system?

throwing money at a problem wont solve it

that includes throwing billions of tax dollars at "free" health care

9/4/2008 11:03:21 PM

^^^philosophy much?

[Edited on September 4, 2008 at 11:04 PM. Reason : fds]

9/4/2008 11:03:26 PM

^What?

9/4/2008 11:04:20 PM

haha, it's fucking healthcare man. how can you be against healthcare? I seriously don't get that. People can be so fucked up

9/4/2008 11:04:21 PM

i'll tell you what, mccain definitely got pumped up for the end of the speech...can't deny that...i honestly thought he would be kind of boring throughout but he stepped it up at the end

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"it's fucking healthcare man. how can you be against healthcare?"

what a loaded question

hey lets put half of your income towards saving puppies and kittens

come on man, how can you be against puppies and kittens?

9/4/2008 11:04:26 PM

Hehe, if McCain won he would destroy the Republican party.

9/4/2008 11:04:29 PM

Bush admin has spent more money domestically than any other president and on education than any other president... but its still not enough for you kids.


The end of that speech was good.

9/4/2008 11:04:53 PM

dude i work in healthcare.

9/4/2008 11:05:10 PM

well yeah, he gave it all to haliburton

9/4/2008 11:05:27 PM

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"Obama will never top that. Even if he slaughters McCain in the election, he will not top that."

he already did

9/4/2008 11:05:28 PM

Obama is gonna win this election 90% to 10% yall

anybody who dont believe that is a racist honkey!

9/4/2008 11:05:50 PM

you work in healthcare? wow, I take it all back then. My bad

9/4/2008 11:05:59 PM

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"we put money towards education and it doesnt seem to help...is it the kids? teachers? parents? school system? throwing money at a problem wont solve it that includes throwing billions of tax dollars at "free" health care"

i agree completely with twista on this

9/4/2008 11:06:13 PM

haha. Poor McCain doesn't get as much applause as Palin.
Fuck the damn Republican Party.

9/4/2008 11:06:19 PM

I was the nurse when you got your sex change done.

9/4/2008 11:06:25 PM

It is because healthcare is one the fastest ways to go through enormous amounts of money.

9/4/2008 11:06:34 PM

The best part of the speech was around where he said "I hate war!" Otherwise, he's not really that good of a speaker, and he looks really frail when he is isolated up there. The debates can't come fast enough for him.

9/4/2008 11:06:48 PM

I hate niggers, but I love rap music, the nba, and smoking weed

9/4/2008 11:06:53 PM

^^dont you think he unexpectedly stepped his game up at the end of the speech?

[Edited on September 4, 2008 at 11:07 PM. Reason : ^^]

9/4/2008 11:07:11 PM

Well, the Dems certainly throw a MUCH better party. Doesn't help me decide who I'm voting for tho.....neither did tonight....

9/4/2008 11:07:13 PM

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"haha, it's fucking healthcare man. how can you be against healthcare? I seriously don't get that. People can be so fucked up "

I know you dont get it. Some of us live in the real world and understand that someone has to provide that healthcare and they need to be well trained. It costs money and its damn expensive. So for morons to say it can be free.. its fucking childish and makes you look like a child.

I seriously dont understand how people can be so fucking dense.

9/4/2008 11:07:40 PM

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"I hate niggers"

wow dude you keep making yourself look like a mental midget

pulling the race card is for people who dont have shit else to bitch about

9/4/2008 11:07:56 PM

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"Bush admin has spent more money domestically than any other president and on education than any other president... but its still not enough for you kids. "

And either Obama or McCain would end up spending more than Bush. The spending's increased every term, it by itself is a meaningless metric.

9/4/2008 11:08:19 PM

The applause at the end drowned out his words, so he might as well have not been saying anything. He should have timed his rhythm better. (And his hand motions while he said that looked sad -- I'm not sure that most people know that is a direct result of the torture rather than old age)

[Edited on September 4, 2008 at 11:10 PM. Reason : .]

9/4/2008 11:08:30 PM

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"how is that a basic human right? lol do you really believe that? you have to earn shit in this country. EARN it. no one is entitled to anything.."

it's part of living in a modern society. A goal of modern civilizations should be to help care for all of its citizens, if and when it can afford to.
Simply by living in the United States, you already reap countless benefits of living in a rich and modern society. Other modern societies have decided that another benefit of being a citizen of their country should be full access to healthcare. It only makes sense that the US would add this benefit as well for all of its citizens

9/4/2008 11:08:45 PM

Yeah same here - no help in making a decision. Lots of good policy points in one the poorest delivered speeches I've heard.

9/4/2008 11:09:10 PM

The Republicans are toast. I like John McCain, but seriously, if the Republicans win this November, its because the Democrats blew their own feet off.

9/4/2008 11:09:29 PM

anyone can go to the hospital in this country, even if they have no insurance.

medicare/medicaid

9/4/2008 11:09:48 PM

USA! USA!

Twista, my grandpa wanted to know if you'll be at his Bridge tournament this weekend.

9/4/2008 11:10:08 PM

i tried to pay attention, but it was boring as fuck. i'd rather see Chris Matthews take on it.


so how was it guys? i missed it fucking around on youtube.

9/4/2008 11:10:42 PM

They took er jibbs!!!

9/4/2008 11:11:40 PM

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"Other modern societies have decided that another benefit of being a citizen of their country should be full access to healthcare. It only makes sense that the US would add this benefit as well for all of its citizens"

in theory that sounds awesome

the only problem is, we cant just "add this benefit" without producing billions of billions of dollars in additional revenue to support this health care system...we produce that by raising taxes out the ass, and not just on big corporations...everyone feels the hit, even if you actually take responsibility for yourself and eat right and exercise and you're in good health

and you might say, ok, i'll pay some more of my salary to taxes if it means i can be healthy...that doesnt sound bad...then you figure out that govt healthcare compared to privatized healthcare that you could get for yourself or through your company, is like living in government housing or eating government cheese...but a free house and food sounded good!

9/4/2008 11:11:49 PM

eye be serious if u think countries like canada and the ones in europe have worse doctors and healthcare than the US. A big reason why the quality of life in those countries is better than the US is the healthcare.

9/4/2008 11:12:18 PM

^^what if we didn't go to war? that'd free up billions

[Edited on September 4, 2008 at 11:12 PM. Reason : .]

9/4/2008 11:12:36 PM

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"anyone can go to the hospital in this country, even if they have no insurance. medicare/medicaid"

medicare/medicaid is bullshit. and the only way everyone can go to a hospital is the ER. that isnt the solution

9/4/2008 11:12:50 PM

I tried watching McCain's speech, the only DNC or RNC anything I've seen (only heard all the MSM talking about it after the fact). And I have to say, I could only stomach about 10 minutes of him talking.

The guy has no life. He isn't even the old riled up crazy uncle you were a little afraid of at family gatherings until your late teens, he's the old grandpa that sits in the corner and nods off after the tryptophan kicks in without ever uttering a peep to anyone.

I can't get motivated to vote for a shell of a man like that. Wtf?

9/4/2008 11:13:16 PM

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"what if we didn't go to war? that'd free up billions"

nice monday morning 5 years later quarterbacking

the real issue is, war funding eventually ends...are we still loading money into vietnam? no

social program funding DOES NOT end

v TRUE DAT

9/4/2008 11:13:45 PM

its cheaper to take a limo to the ER than an ambulance


and the limo has a much better bar

9/4/2008 11:14:12 PM

IIRC - a big part of the problem is that we are one of the only countries where the government does not negotiate the price of drugs from the drug companies. That puts in a position where we pay more than the rest of the world for our prescriptions, but at the same time we are neccessary for the drug companies - we are their profit margin.

9/4/2008 11:14:27 PM

it should be in the budget. figure it out. jesus

9/4/2008 11:14:35 PM

twista dont even try to justify the money weve spent on the war in iraq

9/4/2008 11:15:19 PM

^^if i had free health care i'd stop eating right and working out...i mean what motivation is there to stay in shape when i dont have to pay for the things i choose to do?

^i'm not specifically...but you cant deny that military campaigns end, social welfare programs seldom do

9/4/2008 11:15:29 PM

Thank God he admitted that the GOP has been screwing up during the past 8 years. Seperating himself from their wasteful spending, corruption and left-wing ways will win over a lot of fence-sitting conservatives and independents.

9/4/2008 11:16:19 PM

twista, we must roll a fatty and watch the debates

9/4/2008 11:16:25 PM

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"if i had free health care i'd stop eating right and working out...i mean what motivation is there to stay in shape when i dont have to pay for the things i choose to do?"

*epic carl face*

9/4/2008 11:17:14 PM

twista just got even more retarded. I'm not even responding to that one

9/4/2008 11:17:42 PM

^^^^^Being unhealthy in and of itself sucks regardless of whether you have healthcare or not. That's the motivation. In fact, people without healthcare have the worst health practices (imagine that).


I'm going to go out on a limb and say that mccain draws even with obama in the polls again.


[Edited on September 4, 2008 at 11:20 PM. Reason : .]

9/4/2008 11:18:08 PM

just another irrelevant point that doesn't make any sense, nor does it have anything to do with the real subject

[Edited on September 4, 2008 at 11:19 PM. Reason : .]

9/4/2008 11:19:40 PM

wow the libs are in meltdown mode. lol

[Edited on September 4, 2008 at 11:21 PM. Reason : .]

9/4/2008 11:20:30 PM