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"There are alos a bunch of Republicans that will not vote for McCain - your point is mute"

I think you mean moot.

But nonetheless, I was simply saying that it's not going to be this runaway election that these guys are predicting.

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10/7/2008 10:48:04 PM

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"Hey Republicans, maybe it's not too late to roll out Zombie Hoover?"

Fuck YEAH

Zombie Hoover 08!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

10/7/2008 10:48:04 PM

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"obama is like jesus ... we know about his parents and where he was born ... then all of a sudden hes the middle aged liberal savior attracting masses of poor people by making good speeches filled with impossible promises that will never happen in this lifetime"

that is fucking histerical

but obama is a pimp

10/7/2008 10:48:35 PM

damnit people, mute != moot

10/7/2008 10:48:43 PM

McCain doesn't look very healthy. Palin is fucking nuts. The choice is simple.

10/7/2008 10:48:47 PM

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" i dont care how much you hate mccain, you cant compare him to UNC, thats not even right"

Shit, I didn't even realize that was from his visit to UNC. My bad

10/7/2008 10:49:02 PM

he made a layup against a matador defense of white bench warmers

10/7/2008 10:49:09 PM

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"There are a bunch of democrats out there that will NEVER vote for Obama."

Hopefully their menopause will end before Nov.4

10/7/2008 10:49:41 PM

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"I think Obama won the debate but let's be honest, this format wasn't any different from the other debate except that they sat on stools and walked around and received questions from somebody other than the moderator. None of the questions were unique or interesting and only gave the candidates another opportunity to repeat their platform."

The guy on NBC a second ago briefly hit on this, but this forum made Obama seem more stately.

10/7/2008 10:49:59 PM

damnit YOMAMA, mute != moot

10/7/2008 10:51:11 PM

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10/7/2008 10:51:13 PM

I know he is a POW and all, but damn couldn't they have gotten McCain a better chair. Dude's legs look like they are about to fall off.

10/7/2008 10:53:04 PM

^^Yeah, cling to that if it makes you comfortable.

[Edited on October 7, 2008 at 10:53 PM. Reason : ]

10/7/2008 10:53:08 PM

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10/7/2008 10:54:05 PM

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"I think Obama won the debate but let's be honest, this format wasn't any different from the other debate except that they sat on stools and walked around and received questions from somebody other than the moderator. None of the questions were unique or interesting and only gave the candidates another opportunity to repeat their platform.""

10/7/2008 10:54:29 PM

10/7/2008 10:55:42 PM

I love it when McCain pointed at Obama and called him "that one."

He clearly lacks common sense when he openly disrespects his opponent without reservation on a national stage.

10/7/2008 10:55:57 PM

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"I think Obama won the debate but let's be honest, this format wasn't any different from the other debate except that they sat on stools and walked around and received questions from somebody other than the moderator."

I am strictly making an observation about format -- any format where Mccain's frailty is highlighted is a loser for Mccain. Obama just has to not fall on his ass, and mccain is at a disadvantaged by default.

If mccain weren't behind so much, sitting down at a table like Edwards-Cheney in 2004 would be a good format for mccain.

I don't think Mccain will make up ground via debates. He needs to release an October surprise that will be bigger than the bad economic news.

^ indeed. Mccain needs to calm his ass down and act presidential.

[Edited on October 7, 2008 at 10:58 PM. Reason : .]

10/7/2008 10:57:32 PM

its all over folks. mccain was aimlessly swinging with his name-calling, smear and straight up lies.

10/7/2008 10:57:40 PM

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"I love it when McCain pointed at Obama and called him "that one." "

i knew that meaningless synonym for "that candidate" would get blown the fuck out of proportion by the obama supporters...give me a break

10/7/2008 10:58:37 PM

dude anything is fair game here at the end - no matter what party

10/7/2008 10:59:31 PM

The venom with which he said it was alarming.

The guy's got a temper problem.

If it doesn't cause a foreign relations fiasco, it'll give him a heart attack.

10/7/2008 10:59:41 PM

why is everyone freaking out about the "that one" comment? i didn't find it offensive at all. he was merely trying to be more creative than saying "Senator Obama" or "my opponent"...instead he basically pointed and said "that guy over there." Offensive? Disrepectful? Give me a break.

10/7/2008 11:00:16 PM

it sounded bad whether or not it was meant that way is not relevant

10/7/2008 11:00:30 PM

^ bingo

10/7/2008 11:00:42 PM

"that Sambo"

10/7/2008 11:01:49 PM

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"The venom with which he said it was alarming. The guy's got a temper problem. If it doesn't cause a foreign relations fiasco, it'll give him a heart attack."

well yeah

he's an old, bitter asshole...and has been for a long time.

10/7/2008 11:01:57 PM

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"He needs to release an October surprise that will be bigger than the bad economic news."

He is gonna 'come up' with documents from NIGER showing Iran's plans to make NUCULAR bombs and attack Israel and US bases in the Gulf.

Obama will tank faster than a tank in quicksand.

10/7/2008 11:01:58 PM

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"Offensive? Disrepectful? Give me a break."

no, get it right... what they say is

SHAMEFUL

DISGRACEFUL

EMBARASSING

10/7/2008 11:02:05 PM

"Sorry Prime Minister, I was just being playful with pronouns. Don't break off the trade talks, k?"

10/7/2008 11:02:48 PM

i guarantee you the only people that care about the "that one" comment are the biased analysts and dumb viewers who can't formulate their own reasonable opinions and latch on to those of said biased analysts

10/7/2008 11:05:06 PM

I GUARANTEE

10/7/2008 11:06:02 PM

^^^That is exactly why subtle little missteps like "that one" matter. Not just the words, but the tone.

A president requires the utmost tact when dealing with people. McCain clearly is lacking in that area compared to Obama.



[Edited on October 7, 2008 at 11:10 PM. Reason : .]

10/7/2008 11:06:50 PM

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I didn't realize there was a name and precedence for this phenomena but I could see it happening in this case.

Despite all the support Obama is getting in the polls, I don't see nearly as many Obama/Biden signs/stickers as there were Kerry stickers 4 years ago.

10/7/2008 11:07:35 PM

It seemed like Obama was really intent on getting in the last word on every point. He held up a couple of topics so that he could get one last counterpoint in on the last one.

McCain, on the other hand, seemed to ramble a lot, losing track of the question in his zest to attack Obama and get his talking points in. He repeated himself several times as well.

10/7/2008 11:09:55 PM

results are out on cnn.

obama crushed mccain. 54 vs. 30 (or maybe it is 50 vs. 34)

10/7/2008 11:10:00 PM

are you really gonna decide your vote on a non issue such as that? i think the reality is that most people already know who they're going to vote for and neither candidate has really knocked any of these out of the ballpark. Obama resonates on economy, McCain on foreign policy. and with the election leaning more and more towards facing an economic meltdown, that obviously is not good for McCain, and the polls are showing that

10/7/2008 11:10:31 PM

We all know that one loves overhead projectors

10/7/2008 11:10:34 PM

I mean, ignore the fact that Obama's outperformed polling thus far.

BRADLEY EFFECT!!1

10/7/2008 11:10:35 PM

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"A president requires the utmost tact when dealing with people. McCain clearly is lacking in that area."

But it okay to let every enemy nation know that we're going to attack them...

10/7/2008 11:11:13 PM

nor is it a secret

10/7/2008 11:11:53 PM

10/7/2008 11:12:22 PM

I felt Obama came out slightly ahead, but not by much, especially since 2/3 of it was focused on Obama's strength, the economy. The online polls on CNN & MSNBC both have Obama listed as the victor at around the mid 80s, a small percent saying tie, and a small percent saying McCain did better (obviously these skew young & and aren't in any way a scientific poll). It'll be interesting to see what the real polls say when they start coming out. I think regardless of who people think won, this definitely wasn't the game changer McCain was looking for.

10/7/2008 11:13:06 PM

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"But it okay to let every enemy nation know that we're going to attack them..."

i missed the part in the past 8 years where it was a secret that our intent was to find and kill Bin Laden.....

10/7/2008 11:13:37 PM

wonder what the Fox poll says

10/7/2008 11:13:53 PM

I didn't know Bin Laden was a nation

10/7/2008 11:14:02 PM

well I didn't know Pakistan was our enemy, or that we were going to attack them

10/7/2008 11:14:35 PM

I really would have liked to have focused on something other than the economy for the brunt of the debate. I know it's an important issue right now, but it's all that is being discussed. There are other things that can be focused on as well.

10/7/2008 11:15:20 PM

Kerry led in all the exit polls before W squeaked out his victory in '04. Was he a victim of the Bradley effect?

The reality is that when a large portion of your support comes from young voters, the turnout is usually not gonna be as good as advertised. You just can't rely on them to show up at the election booth, no matter what they say in the polls.

10/7/2008 11:15:36 PM

^ going on your point, a lot of younger voters are in schools in different cities, counties or even state's than they are registered to vote. A lot aren't going to put forth the effort to get to their polling place on election day when they may have exams, homework, or a far drive.

10/7/2008 11:16:58 PM