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jsausley
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Time to go read about our football team to cheer myself up.

1/11/2011 10:55:01 PM

Brass Monkey
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I don't think Sid should have pulled Harrow, but dammit he wasn't the one out there missing bunnies all over the place in the 1st half. At one point we were shooting like 22% with most of those shots being fucking layups.

1/11/2011 10:55:04 PM

kimslackey
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well, hopefully we can pull of FSU. I'm convinced we can beat everyone but Duke, just gotta play decent.

1/11/2011 10:55:06 PM

PackBacker
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"Javi is a good defender"


Uhhhhh...no

1/11/2011 10:55:13 PM

AuH20
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Javi is a fucking terrible defender! Where did this myth start that he doesn't just let his man blow by him every single time?

1/11/2011 10:55:13 PM

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Ah well. Reggie jackson beat brown. If Howell had made that dunk instead of getting blocked, that could have been the turning point for the game.




Harrow needed to stay in the game.

[Edited on January 11, 2011 at 10:55 PM. Reason : .]

1/11/2011 10:55:32 PM

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"unless BC hits another cold streak we'll probably end up falling short by single digits"

1/11/2011 10:55:34 PM

TreeTwista10
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can't believe we lost a tough road game in the ACC

the mayan calendar must be right

1/11/2011 10:55:37 PM

tower
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"sloppy passing"


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"no shot out of timeout"


how many times have we heard this

1/11/2011 10:55:46 PM

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"Which is why we were 6 point underdogs??? Dumbfuck"


Hey douche bag we make 2 foot shots and Javi isn't in school and we win by fifteen. So, delicately put, blow me.

1/11/2011 10:55:57 PM

appamali
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A team which cannot gather 1000 fans to come and watch their game beat us....

1/11/2011 10:56:04 PM

d7freestyler
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sucks we're 1-15 now.

1/11/2011 10:56:12 PM

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Leslie's fine, Probably just rolled his ankle.

We could have gotten out to a big lead in the first half, we were getting every shot we wanted, they just weren't going down.

1/11/2011 10:56:17 PM

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http://www.facebook.com/24hodge/posts/179503362080033
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One sub completely killed our momentum.."

1/11/2011 10:56:33 PM

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This was not a tough road game...seriously...how the fuck do you people not see all the things wrong with the game we just played? There were maybe 15-20 solid minutes of basketball, and the rest was shit.

1/11/2011 10:56:40 PM

kiljadn
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god damn our depth at PG is fucking terrible



Javi should never see the floor if we have a player the caliber of Harrow



seriously the difference between night and day

1/11/2011 10:56:46 PM

Brass Monkey
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Well we just cemented Reggie Jackson as the ACC POW. 29 points

1/11/2011 10:56:57 PM

natureboy
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I too wonder why people think Javi is a great defender. He gets the occassional steal every now and then, but 75% of the time he plays 8 feet away from his man and looks so lazy. I can't wait for his eligibility to be up.

1/11/2011 10:56:58 PM

PinkandBlack
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Fans should not try to analyze games and prognosticate.

Fire all NC State fans.

1/11/2011 10:57:31 PM

skokiaan
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Lowe actually ran a couple of good plays coming out of time outs, this game.


Brown got abused, and leslie let his man get open 3s and inbounds layups. They are definitely running offense better.

1/11/2011 10:57:37 PM

wolfdawg4
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PACK 15-6 to end 1st half
BC 15-6 to end 2nd half

1/11/2011 10:58:20 PM

ActionPants
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Haha I guess Hodge won't be hanging out with the team this summer



UNLESS.....................

1/11/2011 10:58:23 PM

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"He gets the occassional steal every now and then, but 75% of the time he plays 8 feet away from his man and looks so lazy. "


That's the thing

He is too aggressive on D and when shit doesn't work, his guy is wide open. That, or he just watches the play going on and forgets to guard his man.

1/11/2011 10:58:34 PM

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Who else is gonna guard Jackson? Harrow???? Brown can't guard him all day. Javi is the 2nd best option, as bad as that sounds.

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"Javi should never see the floor if we have a player the caliber of Harrow"


Yeah, because Harrow can play all 40 minutes. Maybe we should let Kufor give him a break.

[Edited on January 11, 2011 at 10:59 PM. Reason : ]

1/11/2011 10:59:17 PM

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"This was not a tough road game"


You're right, it was an easy road game, not a tough one

All conference games except Duke are easy, none are tough, not even all of them

1/11/2011 10:59:35 PM

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We lost because BC made three 3s in a row down the stretch. Yeah our defense should have been tighter on those possessions, but rarely is a team going to knock down three straight at the end of the game. Hopefully the team will learn that they have to keep the intensity up for 30 minutes. We had these assholes, but oh well just the first in what will be at least three consecutive losses.

1/11/2011 10:59:40 PM

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If Javi is truly our 2nd best defensive option, I'm all for firing Sid yesterday.

Put Wood on him.. Cj Williams, Harrow....anyone else. Javi is absolutely terrible on D

1/11/2011 11:00:31 PM

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"You're right, it was an easy road game, not a tough one

All conference games except Duke are easy, none are tough, not even all of them"


That was one tough crowd of like 2,000 that came and clapped at times!

1/11/2011 11:01:07 PM

WolfAce
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anybody can hit open threes

1/11/2011 11:01:18 PM

Maverick1024
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He'd blow by Wood and CJ ... and have you ever watched Harrow play defense? There was a reason we wouldn't let him near Jackson

1/11/2011 11:01:19 PM

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^^^we know how our fans feel about clapping...

[Edited on January 11, 2011 at 11:01 PM. Reason : k]

1/11/2011 11:01:22 PM

skokiaan
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Maybe leslie could have guarded Jackson with his length? We had no one who could keep up with him.

1/11/2011 11:01:26 PM

stateredneck
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The game is 40 minutes long. Playing 30 minutes wouldn't do shit.

1/11/2011 11:01:37 PM

tower
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lowe probably didnt bank on brown getting destroyed by jackson repeatedly and even as someone who's pretty much fed up with him I can't get on his case too much for that

but i knew the second i saw javi checking in that we were going to lose

1/11/2011 11:02:19 PM

PackBacker
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"He'd blow by Wood and CJ "


So you think Javi is a better defender than Wood?

Not even close

[Edited on January 11, 2011 at 11:03 PM. Reason : ]

1/11/2011 11:02:32 PM

skokiaan
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Those BC 3s are definitely on our guys. Wide open. I believe leslie was either screened out of the play our playing off by a ridiculous amount on 2 of them. Javi fucked up on the other one.




Javi's mistakes are inexcusable.

1/11/2011 11:03:18 PM

stateredneck
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It is just that he has been making the same mistakes for four years.

1/11/2011 11:04:44 PM

PackBacker
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^That's my thoughts:

Javi and Harrow are both horrible on defense

At least Harrow might learn something and is young. He also gives a scoring threat Javi's been playing the ole' defense for 4 years now and he can't penetrate to save his life. Put in Harrow

I honestly think the defense between Javi and Harrow isn't that much different. Javi has never understood that his player is allowed to move without teh ball

[Edited on January 11, 2011 at 11:07 PM. Reason : ]

1/11/2011 11:06:13 PM

Maverick1024
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"So you think Javi is a better defender than Wood?"


He's a 3. He was guarding 6'6 Raji most of the game IIRC. If you put Wood on Jackson, do you put Harrow on Raji??

1/11/2011 11:06:34 PM

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"Yeah, because Harrow can play all 40 minutes. Maybe we should let Kufor give him a break."




maybe you should read the rest of my post and stop taking shit out of context

[Edited on January 11, 2011 at 11:08 PM. Reason : I readily admitted our depth was the problem. don't be a shit head.]

1/11/2011 11:07:32 PM

PackBacker
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"He's a 3. He was guarding 6'6 Raji most of the game IIRC. If you put Wood on Jackson, do you put Harrow on Raji??
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NOT JAVI FOR GODS SAKE

1/11/2011 11:08:16 PM

tower
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harrow is going to be a liability on defense as long as he's here. we're going to have to learn to deal with it eventually

1/11/2011 11:09:09 PM

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""Which is why we were 6 point underdogs??? Dumbfuck""


It's ok guyz! We wur sposed to lose!!!

1/11/2011 11:09:18 PM

Brass Monkey
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The bottom line is that in the 1st half if the players could hit a damn layup like they were taught to do as kids, then we would have won the game. These are 4 and 5 star players. It's not Lowe's job to teach them the basics like layups. That's on the players. His job is to call and design plays for them to get open and point blank looks. He did his job, the players didn't do what they are supposed to do.

1/11/2011 11:09:22 PM

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^^^ I don't think so. I mean, you can be taught defense.

With that said, I have never seen a Lowe coached team that excelled on defense, so I don't know how much defensive teaching is going on....but a freshman is expected to be bad at defense

[Edited on January 11, 2011 at 11:10 PM. Reason : ]

1/11/2011 11:10:15 PM

Brass Monkey
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We were pretty good at defense at the end of last year. We had a bunch of games where we held our opponents under 60 points.

1/11/2011 11:11:59 PM

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God, not with the "well if we would have just hit x, y, or z shots, we would have won!!" already.

We took a ton of terrible shots early on. Then once shots started falling, we go back to running our slow ass sets at fucking practice speed. Am I seriously the only one who sees this? I think if I go back and watch the game, I probably wouldn't find more than 5 screens that slowed the D. All the defender has to do is actually run instead of jog around the screen, and they've met back up with him on the other side. Then no one took any of the few mismatches that showed up. Instead, more standing around.

Bottom line is that it's just more NC State shit.

[Edited on January 11, 2011 at 11:16 PM. Reason : -]

1/11/2011 11:14:33 PM

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i thought we had some pretty good shots early and just missed them.

we did take a few ill advised shots, but for the most part i think we were just cold.

1/11/2011 11:15:08 PM

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ugh just makes me sick

1/11/2011 11:15:25 PM

Ernie
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"We took a ton of terrible shots early on."


Man that is so wrong

1/11/2011 11:15:30 PM

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