quote from friend who is Vtech grad who went to the game last night: "We sucked bad and played one of our worst games all year and we still managed to beat you by 20"

2/11/2010 4:20:23 PM

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" davis, howell, smith, mays, javi.... all girly-men. i could take them all with one finger behind my back "

smith and howell are decently athletic. the rest are uncoordinated skeletons running around like chickens without their heads. droppin' bricks, missin' layups, turnin' over, not gettin' rebounds.

flipping between the carolina/duke game and ours was like night and day.

2/11/2010 4:26:43 PM

^^and i thought i was depressed before

2/11/2010 4:27:25 PM

^^^ bullshit. they started the game 11 for 11 from the field. Sure, some of that was due to our horrible defensive effort, but I have a hard time believing that was one of their worst games.

2/11/2010 4:30:04 PM

^^^the first 12 or so mins of the game, VT could do absolutely no wrong. tell your friend i call bs.

2/11/2010 4:31:03 PM

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"flipping between the carolina/duke game and ours was like night and day."

i saw 3 teams playing shitty, and also i saw virginia tech

2/11/2010 4:32:05 PM

i had forgotten about their ridiculous start after further evaluation i concur with the last two posts this wasnt close to one of their worst games

2/11/2010 4:32:58 PM

4:37 PM Me: So do you really think Vtech played a bad game yesterday?

4:38 PM Sean: No
I don't think they played that well
they weren't being pushed
so they weren't performing
they were just going through the motions
but yea they came out of the gate on fire


this is what ppl see this shitty school for whether you want to admit it or not!11

[Edited on February 11, 2010 at 4:47 PM. Reason : a]

2/11/2010 4:43:19 PM

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"smith and howell are decently athletic. the rest are uncoordinated skeletons running around like chickens without their heads. droppin' bricks, missin' layups, turnin' over, not gettin' rebounds."

javi, mays, and davis look like skeletons? you must be one beefy dude.

^Oh shit, it was SEAN that said it. Well then, I guess he's right.

And seriously, if you think NCSU is a shitty school, why are you a fan? Why do you follow the sports teams? Why are you posting on the wolfweb? You suck and apparently enjoy wallowing in misery.

[Edited on February 11, 2010 at 4:50 PM. Reason : ]

2/11/2010 4:47:15 PM

^^I cant imagine anyone gives a fuck about what you and your fucking buddy talk about.

[Edited on February 11, 2010 at 4:47 PM. Reason : *]

2/11/2010 4:47:31 PM

^don't let me stop your fun with this 'dream season' buddy.

ha, no this reaction is good. but expected. when you post shit on your shitty team i don't expect you all to be sucking my dick off!!


[Edited on February 11, 2010 at 4:54 PM. Reason : 7]

2/11/2010 4:49:04 PM

2/11/2010 5:02:48 PM

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""“They punched us in the mouth and we just sat there and looked at them while we were bleeding. It’s tough. We’re going to have to get this turned around somehow,” Wood said. "

Scott Wood reads Bill Simmons confirmed?

2/11/2010 6:42:16 PM

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"Lol I knew it. We play the worst game we have since Northwestern and adder still thinks Lowe did a good job. Come on man when are you going to either wake the fuck up or learn basketball? At least in earlier losses we were playing with heart and intensity. Now there is no effort. I don't see how anyone can defend Lowe for last night when his team obviously didn't give a shit."

I simply pointed out FACTS from the game and instead of a coherent response you gave "omg you don't know basketball". I will itemize facts from last nights game for you to see if you actually have any form of a response:
1. Our best player was sick (throwing up before the game and during halftime).
2. Our other low post threat was injured in warmup and couldn't play more than a couple minutes.
3. Our guards could not hit an outside shot to save their lives.
Given these facts are you surprised that we lost?

FYI The only complaint I have about Lowe's gameplan last night is that he had everyone focused on stopping Delaney that they shit the bed early on guarding ANYONE else. Also even with VT's ridiculously fast start they didn't score any more points than they usually do.

2/11/2010 7:05:20 PM

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"Our other low post threat was injured in warmup and couldn't play more than a couple minutes."

so what happened to howell? did i read that he got cut while entering the arena?

2/11/2010 7:35:31 PM

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"Given these facts Sidney Lowe was coaching, are you surprised that we lost?"

There fixed it for you. Stop making excuses. Smith was throwing up yes. Howell was hurt, we have other bigs (Painter actually looked like he knew what was going on), shit happens. His sickness had nothing to do with our guards playing like JV players.

2/11/2010 8:04:00 PM

last night was pathetic.

2/11/2010 8:04:24 PM

^^^

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"Richard Howell So I'm running out of the tunnel right before the game starts and just slice my thigh all up so I got a big ass gash in my thigh so deep that you can see all the white meat and everyything got 9 stitchs and couldn't even play last night ain't that some shit! "

2/11/2010 8:37:48 PM

is that a tweet?

are there punji sticks on the walls of the tunnel or what?

2/11/2010 8:40:47 PM

I didn't make excuses I stated facts about the game last night. It just so happens that theses facts justify what happened last night and you can't handle reality because you live in some fantasy land where we are a coaching change away from being a fantastic team. We have very little talent at guard and until we do it is difficult to judge how good or bad Lowe is. It is interesting that when our guards play decently (aka hit open shots and don't turn the ball over like it is their job) our offense looks great. I would be very concerned if we were missing shots because we weren't getting open shots but that simply isn't the case.

2/11/2010 8:47:48 PM

I love this team as much as the next guy, but how many times this season have the guards looked good?

2/11/2010 8:53:49 PM

^Duke, FSU, Zona

2/11/2010 9:00:16 PM

^^^Wow

2/11/2010 9:52:16 PM

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"It is interesting that when our guards play decently (aka hit open shots and don't turn the ball over like it is their job) our offense looks great. I would be very concerned if we were missing shots because we weren't getting open shots but that simply isn't the case."

this was true until last night. last night was the first game where we could NOT get open shots. and that's coaching. and the biggest thing that worries me about sid, is our regression over the course of the season. that's on sid.

with that said, i still think we'll be an ncaa team with our incoming guards next year. but my doubts are definitely rising.

2/11/2010 9:56:35 PM

this is my first post!

2/11/2010 10:18:34 PM

^
it won't be your last

2/11/2010 10:21:52 PM

^^ I wish I had $5 laying around

2/11/2010 11:16:38 PM

^you wipe your ass w/ $5s. You've said it yourself.

2/11/2010 11:18:13 PM

Mr. Nice Guy

2/11/2010 11:28:55 PM

Alice Cooper?

2/11/2010 11:35:20 PM

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"We have very little talent at guard and until we do it is difficult to judge how good or bad Lowe is. "

So next year, when it turns out that Brown, Harrow, etc. aren't as good as we've hyped them up to be as freshmen, do we go right back to this excuse?

I mean, this school used to make the tournament with mediocre guards.

2/12/2010 8:45:48 AM

atsur was far from mediocre

and no if he doesnt get it done with harrow and brown then he's gone

2/12/2010 8:51:10 AM

Atsur wasn't overly talented, he just didn't fuck up all the time his senior year.

2/12/2010 9:05:59 AM

that and he played for the turkish national team so he had some talent


he had a workman like game and i would love to have him playing for us right now

2/12/2010 9:07:34 AM

Agreed Atsur wasn't overly talented but he had a hell of a basketball sense. He was smart and didn't turn the ball over all the time. This is something we need. A PG that can be smart and not turn the ball over while at the same time not get confused (aka look like he is about to take a dump on the court (Mays))

2/12/2010 9:18:20 AM

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"So next year, when it turns out that Brown, Harrow, etc. aren't as good as we've hyped them up to be as freshmen, do we go right back to this excuse? I mean, this school used to make the tournament with mediocre guards."

This isn't next year and we aren't sucking with high caliber talent at guard so until that happens...

No shit this school used to make the tournament with some non-traditional talent running a non-traditional system. That was deemed unacceptable by the fanbase. They wanted a fast paced more traditional system which cannot happen without talent at the guard position. In the college game having a good guard is much more important than who coaches the team. (fyi Hodge did a lot of primary ball handling and led the team in assists for quite a few years I don't think anyone would call him a mediocre college player)

Again no factual response boozie? I wish I could say I was surprised. Your ineffectual commentary really highlights the weakness of your arguments. I've called you out repeatedly on this and you still can't come up with anything?

[Edited on February 12, 2010 at 9:51 AM. Reason : v fixed it for you]

2/12/2010 9:25:26 AM

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"No shit this school used to make the tournament with some inferior talent running a non-traditional system."

Can we please stop this.

Our recruiting under Herb was every bit as good and probably better than it has been under Lowe.

Hodge's class was a consensus Top 5 (albeit in a weaker class). The 2004 and 2005 classes were both consensus Top 15. The only weak class was the MOD one and we simply didn't have any scholarships available that year.

It wasn't a talent problem. It was a how to utilize that talent properly "problem." And I use problem in quotations because we were competing for ACC Championships and generally one of the Top 4 teams in the conference at the time.

[Edited on February 12, 2010 at 9:32 AM. Reason : x]

2/12/2010 9:32:12 AM

scooter was an AA and melvin was top 100
hodge - 5 star
powell, levi, collins, and evtimov were all top 100 players
bennerman - 4 star
bethel - 3 star
brackman - 4 star
grant - 4 star
simmons - 5 star
costner - 5 star
mccauley - 4 star
fells - 4 star
horner - 3 star

i'd say our recruiting is just starting to get back to the level we had in the early to mid 2000s. the glaringly obvious thing is that we never had an elite point guard

2/12/2010 9:53:05 AM

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"that and he played for the turkish national team so he had some talent"

He "played". Olympic time he rode pine.

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"No shit this school used to make the tournament with some non-traditional talent running a non-traditional system. That was deemed unacceptable by the fanbase."

It was deemed unacceptable by part of the fanbase. A number of us had the common sense to realize that we ran the system for a reason. Personally I think sitting at the bottom of the ACC with our only hope being a couple of freshmen who may or may not pan out is far more unacceptable.

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"the glaringly obvious thing is that we never had an elite point guard"

Ironically, we were about to get one, then half the fanbase all but ran Herb out of town.

[Edited on February 12, 2010 at 10:33 AM. Reason : .]

2/12/2010 10:32:24 AM

^and he would only be a junior right now

2/12/2010 10:53:21 AM

Herb's first 4 years in the ACC are strikingly similar to Sid's

Sid deserves 10 years, too

2/12/2010 10:58:14 AM

HEY LOOK

A HERB AND CHRIS-WRIGHT-WAS-A-LOCK ARGUMENT

2/12/2010 10:59:15 AM

IF WE LOSE TOMORROW TO A UNC TEAM THAT IS:

1) HORRIBLE

&

2) DEPLETED

THEN WE SHOULD SUSPEND THE PROGRAM, EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY. THERE IS NO EXCUSE TO LOSE TO THESE NO TALENT ASS CLOWNS TOMORROW.

WAKE UP AND PLAY SOME GODDAMN BASKETBALL NCSTATE, AND BEAT THESE ASSHOLES.


/RANT

2/12/2010 11:25:11 AM

78-61 Tarholes.

2/12/2010 11:27:03 AM

^^ with that said, i fully expect us to lose by 17+

2/12/2010 11:29:55 AM

yep, we'll look terrible and lose this one too

this team seems to have quit caring, if they decide they want to play hard again they can win a few more this season

2/12/2010 11:39:44 AM

Let me fucking suit up and foul the fuck out of a few Tar Hole players. At least it would make things more interesting than watching our player sleep walk through the game while Smith gets triple teamed in the post.

2/12/2010 11:43:00 AM

is it in poor taste that i say that i think UNC will beat us by 17pts with autistic children in uniform?


i dont think so...i think its a credit to autistic children across the country.

2/12/2010 11:49:51 AM

The hell with all of you. I'm pumped up about this game. What a great opportunity to put UNC in the cellar! If you said last year that we would have a game against UNC for them to be in last, I would have been shocked. AND... I want to play a ACC/Big Ten next year and have UNC not.

2/12/2010 12:10:08 PM

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"IF WE LOSE TOMORROW TO A UNC TEAM THAT IS: 1) HORRIBLE & 2) DEPLETED"

1 is true, yes. But what do you mean "depleted"? I know they lost lawson, hansbrough, etc., but it's not like they're starting guys like Davis and Horner (no knock on Davis @ all, i love the guy).

2/12/2010 2:17:18 PM