^^^^^ That's exactly what I was trying to tell bricktop and wolfpack2105

Just back the fuck up off these coaches for a while and let them work.

[Edited on June 18, 2014 at 11:03 AM. Reason : ^]

6/18/2014 10:55:52 AM

Yeah. If you keep hounding them, they might forget to call timeout before the kickoff.

6/18/2014 11:10:49 AM

6/18/2014 11:15:15 AM

Hey guys, did yall notice that he mixed-up the first name of our AD!?!?

6/18/2014 11:19:35 AM

sorry Ribs, I must have missed the part where you were telling me anything

6/18/2014 11:51:28 AM

Quote :

"Yeah. If you keep hounding them, they might forget to call timeout before the kickoff."

BURN!!

6/18/2014 12:13:31 PM

^^ You quoted me and responded to the post yesterday, but now claim ignorance.

[Edited on June 18, 2014 at 2:31 PM. Reason : .]

6/18/2014 2:30:11 PM

so me quoting you = you telling me something

got it, bizarro

6/18/2014 8:17:59 PM

I love how the guys on packpride are eating that guys shit up. A supposed UNC grad coming on there and telling NC State people how they should act on their own message board...and they're all over it. What a joke.

Listen, the whole thing is that if a recruit is basing his decision on what a couple idiots on a message board say, then i don't want that recruit. I mean seriously. Jesus Christ people. You don't think UNC fans lose their shit? FSU fans? UGA fans? USC fans? Give me a damn break that because i'm questioning a staff that went 0-8 in the ACC and so far this recruiting season has lost out on every recruit of value that i'm a bad fan. Fuck you.

Maybe if this coaching staff didn't call timeouts on kickoffs and could get their o-line to lineup correctly before the last week of the season, people wouldnt be questioning them. But I guess we're supposed to be a sunshine squad and never question our poor million dollar makin coach eh? Kiss my ass.

This(and packpride) is a message board used to post your opinion and thoughts on subject matter. If you can't do that, then whats the damn point?

6/18/2014 8:35:28 PM

I just don't understand the point of anonymously bitching and moaning on the internet about the sports team that i support, but that's just me.

and i also don't see any reason to get all in a tizzy about recruiting after a coache's first season, with only a limited number of scholarships, when signing day is 9 months away, simply because a few talented kids who publicly said that we were one of their final schools chose to go to fsu, or stanford, or whatever other school. there's a lot of things that a kid takes into account when choosing the college he's going to go to. it doesn't mean the coach doesn't know how to recruit. if that's the case, we wouldn't have been one of their final choices in the first place.

Quote :

"Listen, the whole thing is that if a recruit is basing his decision on what a couple idiots on a message board say, then i don't want that recruit. "

this is such a stupid thing to say. and it sounds like you're calling yourself an idiot.

[Edited on June 18, 2014 at 8:59 PM. Reason : and you realize packpride has a lot more negative bitchers than "sunshiners", right?]

6/18/2014 8:57:57 PM

My nephew plays at DE and sometimes DT. I figured the reason is because of a lack of need but selfishly wanted him to end up at State so it would be easier to see him play.

6/18/2014 9:15:27 PM

^^So what you're saying is that even if a recruit loved the following things about NC State:

Who their head coach would be that they will see daily
Who their position coach would be that they will see daily
What their major at the university would be that would affect the rest of their life
how they get along with their future teammates that they will see daily
the facilities they will be using daily
the distance from their family

because I, or any other random member of the website, showed angst that our coaches may not be living up to the hype, that recruit would choose another school? Based on the ramblings of a couple internet idiots? Come the hell on now. Its a damn message board, lol. Are we serious with ourselves here?


To your other point about there being more bitchers and moaners. Maybe on the free board, but I don't go there. You could just as easily be arguing with a UNC troll as a fellow State fan. Anyone that pays any attention to what is said on the free board is an idiot and asking for pain. The response from the "recruits parent", a UNC grad i might add, posted on the premium board has been met with about 90% amens and 10% dudes saying what i'm saying.

Also, i'm not advocating bitching and moaning constantly about my favorite sports team. I don't do that and never will. When things are looking good, i'll say they're looking good and rejoice. When things look bleak, i'll say they look bleak. Whats wrong with being honest here? We were 0-8 in the ACC last year and have lost out on every big recruit that has made a decision so far in this recruiting cycle. Can I not say that sucks and hope that the coaches aren't in over their heads? Or should I just say "Thats ok, this staff has shown the ability to recruit with the big boys and really coach em up!"

Every staff we've had has excelled in recruiting in their first year, and i'll give DD and staff credit there...they continued the trend. Even TOB...look at his first full cycle. We fired TOB for the exact thing that is happening right now and he never gave us an 0-8 season. What fanbase would be happy golucky after an 0-8 season, where the team looked dumbfounded at running simple plays, and the beginning of a recruiting cycle that sees them miss on every big recruit that has made a decision? The people on packpride act like this is an NC State fanbase "problem". No, its not a problem and its not relegated to NC State. People want results and quickly and when they're not given them, they bitch. Kansas, USC, Auburn, UNC, NC State, Georgia...doesn't matter the school. It goes on everywhere.

I like DD...I hope he shows out and starts getting 4* commits and wins 8 games this year. I just think its silly that people want to censor other people on a public message board because they are saying things that they don't like. Its silly.

[Edited on June 19, 2014 at 1:40 AM. Reason : sdfs]

6/19/2014 1:29:15 AM

^like, ohmygod you're such a bad fan. how could you even be that way, it doesn't even make any sense. like, I don't even know how you could let actual factual stuff that has happened in the recent past get in the way of what you should be seeing through your rose colored glasses and comparing to the totally measurable quantifiable potential that we all *know* is there

6/19/2014 8:21:11 AM

remember when ryan harrow had a meltdown because the message boardz were being mean to his boi sidney?

then it turned out he was an insane headcase who wasnt a good player anyway?

if these kids are getting slammed on directly on twitter that's one thing but if they go looking for reasons to be mad about the fanbase they were never going to work out anyway

6/19/2014 8:32:38 AM

Honestly, the fact that this conversation has so much traction proves how shitty we have been for the past year. We have nothing good to talk about, so we are relegated to bitching back and forth about what we should and should not say on a message board because it might lose us recruits...lol

6/19/2014 9:55:59 AM

The thing is, I, for one, would like the recruiting thread to be about recruiting. who we're looking at, who's considering us, who chooses us, etc instead of long-winded the-sky-is-falling our-coaches-are-terrible they-call-time-outs-before-kickoffs complaining every time a prospect chooses another school. I wish the over-the-top internet-complaining would be left in Doeren Credibility Watch thread (or the Packpride free board). That's just my opinion.

[Edited on June 19, 2014 at 10:03 AM. Reason : ]

6/19/2014 10:02:51 AM

^this

6/19/2014 10:18:13 AM

Quote :

"The thing is, I, for one, would like the recruiting thread to be about recruiting. who we're looking at, who's considering us, who chooses us, etc instead of long-winded the-sky-is-falling our-coaches-are-terrible they-call-time-outs-before-kickoffs complaining every time a prospect chooses another school. I wish the over-the-top internet-complaining would be left in Doeren Credibility Watch thread (or the Packpride free board). That's just my opinion."

this

6/19/2014 10:41:22 AM

Quote :

"We have nothing good to talk about, so we are relegated to bitching back and forth"

I feel like this is a synopsis of what Sports Talk has devolved into as a whole.

6/19/2014 10:59:23 AM

^^In a thread about recruiting when we've lost out on all of our top prospects, you don't expect there to be a little griping? Is that not expected?

^Between our lack of success and people that think its more fun to troll than have legit conversations...yes, thats what its devolved into.

6/19/2014 5:27:46 PM

If we get every recruit we go after, that would mean our standards are too low.

If we don't get any of the recruits we go after, our standards are too high.

If we get some of the recruits we go after, we are doing it right

6/19/2014 5:35:14 PM

wow did you just make that up all on your own

6/19/2014 6:57:36 PM

#1/#2 player in North Carolina DT Shy Tuttle has narrowed his list to Clemson, Miami, UNC, Tennessee and NC State.

I hesitate to even mention this, because from what I've read, he's leaning UNC or Clemson, and some posters will be ready to disband the team if he doesn't choose NC State.

6/23/2014 7:00:07 PM

I would put our chances at less than 5% unless we come in with dat 150% calipari money

6/23/2014 7:14:38 PM

dudes been on our campus more than any recruit so far this year

6/23/2014 9:04:53 PM

^Yeah but basically every time he visits NC State, he also visits UNC.

Most "experts" believe he's basically a lock to UNC but Clemson and Tennessee are catching up.

6/23/2014 9:18:57 PM

Saw one of PP's recruiting guys retweet something of his when he announced his top 5 and he had one of our coaches in his Twitter profile pic. So if he announces to UNC, he'll be doing so along with a picture of him and one of our coaches. #NCStateShit

6/23/2014 9:55:19 PM

I stopped caring about football recruiting post-Amato. They're now just nameless faces on top 25-60 classes each year.

6/23/2014 10:23:11 PM

^yep

6/23/2014 10:46:40 PM

For fun, I looked back at our Rivals class rankings since 2002.

Of course, this it's just silly internet rankings and doesn't account for 2*s who became decent/big contributors or 4/5*s who were busts.

And it doesn't account for non-qualifiers, size of class, coaching transitions, etc. etc.



-----CtC-----
'00
'01
'02 #34
'03 #7
'04 #59
'05 #27
'06 #51
\\\\Range #7-59//// \\\\Avg=36//// \\\\Median=34//// (only based on five seasons of '02-'06)



------TOB-----
'07 #49
'08 #31
'09 #52
'10 #34
'11 #87
'12 #53
\\\Range #31-87//// \\\\Avg=51//// \\\\Median=50.5////
*\\\\Range #31-53//// \\\\Avg=44//// \\\\Median=49////

*if you throw out the big outlier of '11 (where we spent 3 scholarships on 2* kicker, punter & snapper



-----DD-----
'13 #47
'14 #30
\\\Range #30-47//// \\\\Avg/Median=39/////

[Edited on June 23, 2014 at 11:52 PM. Reason : Reason : correct me where i'm wrong]

6/23/2014 11:49:32 PM

Wouldn't it be more accurate if you compared the first two years of each coach's tenure, since that is all we have to judge DD on? Looks like DD and TOB had pretty similar rankings in their first 2 years. However TOB won > 0 conference games, so I guess he is the better choice?

6/24/2014 1:07:00 AM

Mikell Lands-Davis to GT, as expected

6/27/2014 4:04:37 PM

eww rivals. they had the worst website design ever back when i actually followed recruiting.

6/27/2014 4:13:03 PM

from what i understand, rivals is the most reliable when it comes to football recruiting

anyways, http://northcarolinastate.scout.com/story/1411202-commit-video-austin-king

6/30/2014 12:27:48 PM

everything I read about that kid makes me like him that much more as a player. Good job to the recruiting staff on an under the radar type prospect.

7/1/2014 11:36:02 AM

Quote :

"Good job to the recruiting staff on an under the radar type prospect"

Quote :

"Maybe their measurable aren't WHOA, but they're all football players -- physical, passionate, and tough as shit"

7/1/2014 11:48:29 AM

Quentez Johnson committed this afternoon, he's a 3 star DT from Georgia and a former Miami commit:
http://sports.yahoo.com/ncstate/football/recruiting/player-Quentez-Johnson-156262

7/4/2014 5:04:06 PM

He's an unobjective fucke. He had an offer from Tennessee iirc

7/4/2014 5:18:34 PM

All I am saying is Travis Ramseur QB from Statesville High School c/o 2016.... He has been on a visit and likes the facilities... Hopefully he finds more that he likes.

http://www.hudl.com/athlete/1510158/travis-ramseur


III

7/5/2014 12:01:44 AM

Q. Johnson's rating of 3* is solid, but his offer list has me pretty pumped about the pick-up.

7/5/2014 9:38:10 AM

He also said he's gonna try to recruit and help flip players.

7/5/2014 7:10:53 PM

He and Freddie Phillips have been trying to get B. Love and D. Roseboro to come calling it "#TheMoneyTeam15 #PACK15".

7/6/2014 6:22:29 PM

^^^yeah, supposedly offers from FSU, Georgia, Missouri, LSU, Orgeon, Miami, Wisconsin, ASU, Michigan St, etc.

7/7/2014 12:55:59 PM

Darian Roseboro is cutting his list down to his Top 6 tonight at 8pm. Wolfpack still should be in it......

7/7/2014 1:49:53 PM

^Yeah last I read was we were in his top 2 with Michigan, would be a definite surprise/blow to be left off the list.

Also worth noting that he's up to 290-295 now. Not sure if he's more suited to be a 3-4 DE now or continue bulking up to be a terror at DT.

7/7/2014 2:35:39 PM

Quote :

" Pack Pride ? @ PackPride 19m NC State DE target Darian Roseboro RT @ DarianRoseboro: Top 6 (not in order ) ?? Michigan Nc state Alabama Tennessee Carolina Clemson"

7/8/2014 9:15:55 AM

http://www.newsobserver.com/2014/07/18/4013921/twists-turns-lead-linebacker-ty.html?sp=/99/103/

Quote :

"inton's father said he and his son knew going in to the ACC process getting the waiver was a 50-50 proposition, but "we didn't know the severity of the challenge would be there from Carolina." Jim Linton said his son might have had a better chance going to a different school, but "because it was Carolina and N.C. State, that's the way it is." "That was really bizarre," Jim Linton said. "Instead of ruling for a kid, (the ACC) ruled for a rule.""

[Edited on July 18, 2014 at 12:34 PM. Reason : ]

7/18/2014 12:32:22 PM

nvm, he played baseball for 4 years

[Edited on July 18, 2014 at 12:46 PM. Reason : .]

7/18/2014 12:45:37 PM

keep reading

7/18/2014 12:47:04 PM

So UNC is pretty butthurt about this whole NCAA thing huh... so much so that they are willing to hurt a kid to "uphold the law."

Class act as always.

7/18/2014 12:54:45 PM