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"chuck used to bench more than anyone on the team...truth"

What complete and utter bullshit.

7/19/2011 8:14:03 PM

i used to work with former football players

they all said the same thing

7/19/2011 8:46:22 PM

This thread went almost 24 hours without a post...

I saw this on twitter

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"UNC and Butch specifically are NOT contesting release of '216' phone records. Am told Butch is personally going over records before release."

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" No guess on when we'll get them, but we will. Butch, I'm told, doesn't want high profile non-involved friends to have #'s splashed around"

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"Obviously how much, and what Butch chooses to omit will be of interest. UNC, I'm told, is not involved in that process."

Posted by Mark Armstrong (@ArmstrongWTVD)

FWIW...

7/20/2011 6:32:20 PM

7/20/2011 6:35:11 PM

Hahaha "high profile non-involved friends" like Gary Wichard, various players on all expense paid for trips, recruits, and John Blake.

7/20/2011 6:37:06 PM

right, all the damning numbers... We gotta black those out

7/20/2011 6:52:06 PM

Davis being able to black out his own records with no oversight seems borderline unbelievable, just seems like it's asking for cover-up

7/20/2011 7:10:19 PM

Why not leave them as is and just say "I didn't know I called that number".

It's worked until now...

7/20/2011 8:09:57 PM

This is fucking bullshit there is no way in hell he should be able to redact these numbers. It has been established that he used this number to conduct business therefore making it a MATTER OF PUBLIC FUCKING RECORD. Why the fuck is NO ONE IN THE MEDIA CRYING FOUL???

7/20/2011 8:21:22 PM

yeah if you redact a number there is no way to know if there is any chance it was used for public business or not.

7/20/2011 8:28:26 PM

It's only the phone calls he made in relation to his business with the school that are public record.

He's well within his righs to black out any personal calls he made on that phone.

7/20/2011 8:31:39 PM

were going to find out he had an affair too

7/20/2011 8:35:04 PM

lol no he isnt.

7/20/2011 8:35:14 PM

I think its going to be hard to make a case that ALL his calls (regardless of if they're related to state business or not) become public record. I've been reading the statutes and can't find anything that would specifically support that.

Letting Butch decide all by himself whether each call falls under public record or not is just retarded though. Its going to be hilarious if he releases this and claims the only phone calls he made as part of his job were to Thorpe and Baddour.

7/20/2011 8:37:58 PM

^^^Butch will be like "I needed to call Jennifer about some tutoring issues with my son at 3 in the morning."

7/20/2011 8:39:06 PM

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"It's only the phone calls he made in relation to his business with the school that are public record. He's well within his righs to black out any personal calls he made on that phone."

John Blake turned in his records with all 8012 calls he made to his wife, unredacted. Because Butch used his phone for business, it;s subject to the same rules.


Once the media sees the records, they'll go on with the lawsuit if they feel like they need to. I mean, Butch is talking about blacking out a number, it's possible (not neccessarily plausible) that he'll do it in a way that's satisfactory to the parties involved.

7/20/2011 8:39:59 PM

First 10 pages of 216 phone record released by Butch:






[Edited on July 20, 2011 at 8:57 PM. Reason : done]

7/20/2011 8:52:54 PM

that'd be a better post in a nice 5x2 grid

7/20/2011 8:55:10 PM

you'd think that butch / blake / etc would use burners for anything remotely shady.

7/20/2011 10:01:11 PM

^I would assume so. But who knows...

7/20/2011 10:03:41 PM

maybe austin can provide some dirt on this

Maybe butch had a belt or bandoleer filled with phones (photoshop op here)

7/20/2011 10:08:01 PM

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"you'd think that butch / blake / etc would use burners for anything remotely shady."

yeah, like all those calls blake had with gary wichard.

7/20/2011 10:21:02 PM

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"Maybe butch had a belt or bandoleer filled with phones (photoshop op here)"

[Edited on July 20, 2011 at 10:26 PM. Reason : with colors]

7/20/2011 10:22:47 PM

=

7/20/2011 10:24:36 PM

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"Get some"

7/20/2011 10:24:45 PM

^^ why you gotta bring Bob into this?

^^^ colors fixed.

7/20/2011 10:27:20 PM

^i had never seen him until i just looked in your gallery

btw thats Bob Dog from Mr. Rogers' Neighborhood on the right

not to be confused with John Bunting

7/20/2011 10:28:28 PM

Why don't they just have a third party verify who each number belonged to, then replace the number with a name? It'd be less work for the press, and no one's phone number would be jeopardized. He can hide all those "high profile" phone numbers and still release everything

(I know he would never want to)

7/21/2011 1:17:18 AM

7/21/2011 12:24:31 PM

http://www.wralsportsfan.com/voices/blogpost/9891806/

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"Butch Davis said today that he will release the phone records from his personal cell phone. Davis said that he is pulling together the records for the phone that he has used for over 10 years and will release them as soon as those records come together. "Those records have been looked at by the University’s counsel completely and entirely back during the fall of the season," Davis said. "It’s something they’ve already looked at. As soon as we can get it all put together – we just got the request here recently, so I’m going to do that here pretty soon.” Past public records requests by WRAL and other media outlets have led to the release of Davis' university issued phone, but not the personal line which Davis uses for nearly all of his cellular calls. Davis said that the numbers for close friends and family members will be redacted, but "anything to do with UNC and business will be open for public record.""

I just don't understand. Records that were looked over ENTIRELY less than a year ago now have to be put back together? Chances are they are running through it and blacking out any number. I'm sure they will miss something.

[Edited on July 21, 2011 at 4:06 PM. Reason : s]

7/21/2011 4:04:46 PM

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"we just got the request here recently, so I’m going to do that here pretty soon."

what a clown

7/21/2011 4:20:12 PM

I don't understand.

Can't they just go to verizon (or whoever) and get the records? Why do they have to go through Butch? It's not as if there was only one handwritten copy between verizon (or whoever) and butch. They're electronic files.

[Edited on July 21, 2011 at 4:21 PM. Reason : ]

7/21/2011 4:21:22 PM

So UNC has had all the records for over a year.

UNC is still refusing to hand them over, but Butch is going to do it himself? Why wouldn't he simply give the university permission and let them be handled like all other records requests?

Butch gets to decides which records are pertinent?

Seriously?

7/21/2011 6:10:13 PM

^^ that makes Verizon or whoever part of the legal process involved in all this. Since they wouldn't want that, I'm sure they wouldn't cooperate

7/21/2011 6:20:51 PM

What I liked is how this woman reporter asks him about Blake and he does that huffy-puffy thing we've all come to know and love in this investigation (and after heart-breaking losses to NCSU) and he goes "Excuse me", haha.

then his answer is that the NCAA told them that they can't discuss it, BUT he tells her that if she'll call up Dick Baddour then he would be able to talk to her about it, haha

I too thought it interesting that he says they "recently got the request" for the phone records but that lawyers had been going over them since last fall. yea, nothing to see here, move along

7/21/2011 6:33:32 PM

Wonder if the same people that cleared macadoos papers will be going over butchys phone records. lol

7/21/2011 6:37:23 PM

if they were smart they'd get some of these UNC fan jerks over on the N&O forums who constantly call out anyone for spelling and grammar mistakes.

7/21/2011 6:41:25 PM

is it too much to ask for that they redact all the agents' phone numbers, etc, or so they think, then they release the phone records, a few guys on PackPride whitepages.com reverse lookup some phone numbers that are registered to sports agents, etc, then bleacherreport runs a story exposing the corruption?

v i think its the media requesting them, not the NCAA, but it might be both

[Edited on July 21, 2011 at 6:45 PM. Reason : .]

7/21/2011 6:42:34 PM

I'll show my ingorance of this case, and of these type of proceedings in general and ask the stupid questions:
why can't (or is) the NCAA demand UNC/Butch provide (unedited) print-outs of the phone bills?
If it was a criminal case, would the police/feds/whatever be able to demand that?
Why does Butch/UNC get to hold onto them for this long, and finally "decide" to hand them over now.... after they remove some #s?
Is the hold-up because it's a personal phone (that was used to make some "business" calls?)?

^Well, if it's the media, then that makes sense. But if so, why wouldn't that be part of the NCAA's investigation? Do they not have that authority?


[Edited on July 21, 2011 at 6:58 PM. Reason : ]

7/21/2011 6:44:07 PM

The NCAA doesn't have the authority to demand they can request and if denied they assume it was bad and punish you accordingly. The real question is WHERE THE FUCK are butch's emails. Isn't UNC in violation of Manning's order for not supplying them?

7/21/2011 7:20:33 PM

Nice little gem to start off your Friday.

http://www.wralsportsfan.com/unc/story/9893460/

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"RALEIGH, N.C. — Former University of North Carolina wide receiver Greg Little spoke with WRAL Thursday night and addressed some of the accusations against him as a result of the NCAA investigation into the school’s football program. Little, who was declared “permanently ineligible” by the NCAA in October, was one of eight players found to have accrued a number of parking tickets between March 2007 and August 2010 according to public records released by the school in June. Little was found to have racked up 93 parking violations on multiple vehicles bearing nine different license plates during that time span. On Thursday, he said that he has taken care of all fines using his own funds. "I know I got a lot, that's really irresponsible,” Little said. “I know everybody receives parking tickets. I paid them. I paid them. They came from out of my pockets.” Little also explained the five different vehicles that were cited, but was not sure how the license plates could be so varied. “I drove my mom’s car, dad’s car, sister’s car and I had two cars, I ended up switching, so that’s where that came from,” Little said. “But the nine license plates, that’s got me baffled too.” Little was also quick to throw his support behind Tar Heels head coach Butch Davis, saying that he should undoubtedly keep his job, never knew of any student-athlete misdeeds and the blame lies solely on the players. “He did nothing wrong,” Little said. “If you send your child out to the movies but he goes to a party, you don’t have control after you step out of the picture. He had nothing to do with anything that went on. It was all me and Marvin’s (Austin) ill-advised mistakes." Austin, who has been active on social media outlets recently, voicing his displeasure with the outcome of a hearing on the eligibility of former teammate Michael McAdoo, also got support from Little. "Marvin is upset,” Little said. “I can understand his frustration. We all want to move forward" A second-round draft pick of the Cleveland Browns, Little said he was in game shape right now and was waiting on an email from player reps regarding the NFL lockout. He also said that while he understands the varying opinions that continue to swirl about the allegations against UNC, he continues to wish them the best. “There is going to be speculation because everything was put in such a broad statement,” Little said. “There is going to be speculation (as to where) exactly things came from and exactly what went on. I know things are still lingering over North Carolina. I wish them the best and look forward to them moving forward as well.” Reporter: Ken Medlin"

7/22/2011 9:10:22 AM

Meh, nothing new there

I was thinking earlier this week how ridiculous it is that that USC player who made a bad joke on TMZ warranted national backlash. The story was on mike and mike, ath, pti. I would think Austin's tweets would be a good story for esn to exploit during the slow summer. Or maybe they can cover UNCs NINE major violations

7/22/2011 9:18:35 AM

I found it interesting he's able to quickly explain the source for all the cars but no idea why there were so many different plates.

7/22/2011 9:22:46 AM

haha must've been the underwear license plate gnomes

7/22/2011 9:47:34 AM

Time for some PackPride enthusiasts to back up his claims that the cars belonged to all of those family members

7/22/2011 9:53:33 AM

^^^^ no one gives a shit about unc-ch football nationally. They aren't as important as they think


A USC football player could sneeze and espn will cover it


[Edited on July 22, 2011 at 9:58 AM. Reason : ^]

7/22/2011 9:55:21 AM

this might be old but I sure hadn't seen it before. Pretty scathing critique from Browns players on Davis. We need every recruit to see this. Also really makes the "i don't know anything" argument entirely untenable.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2004/writers/don_banks/11/30/browns.breakdown/index.html

[Edited on July 22, 2011 at 12:32 PM. Reason : link]

7/22/2011 12:31:14 PM

[Edited on July 22, 2011 at 12:33 PM. Reason : nvm]

7/22/2011 12:33:07 PM

^^

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""You can tell he's lying, because his lips are moving,'' said the player, who is no longer with Cleveland. "That's how guys feel about him. You can't trust what he says.''"

Bwaahaha

7/22/2011 1:17:24 PM

^wow...that quote is pretty bad. hahahah

7/22/2011 1:36:31 PM