Romney still doesn't get it though.

Quote :

"We of course don’t want to have automatic weapons, and that’s already illegal in this country to have automatic weapons."

Uh, yes, we want automatic weapons. No, they're not illegal in this country.

10/18/2012 1:25:20 PM

I just want a few suppressors, full auto would cost too much money to shoot

10/18/2012 2:09:48 PM

i'd like a full auto .308 just for kicks...

like a mini gun

10/18/2012 2:21:35 PM

^^Sadly, yes.

[Edited on October 18, 2012 at 2:25 PM. Reason : not enough ^s]

10/18/2012 2:22:00 PM

^^^I agree with that. It would be nice if suppressors/SBR/SBSs were easier to get.

10/18/2012 2:33:18 PM

Do you think LEOs fire pistols more then the military ?

I feel that even though the military has carbine or rifle as a primary weapon that their secondary is still probably fired more then the local patrolman fires his primary pistol.

10/18/2012 3:10:30 PM

to skywalkr RE: Shooting around vehicles- 600 pistol, 600 rifle.
I'll be shooting a Glock 35 and custom AR-15 predominantly.
I will be bringing a Glock 23 and Mossberg 590 as well for some use during the class.


Talking to my BIL (3 tours in the sand box), primary weapon is used a ton, secondary/ aux is rarely used.
He said most engagements for him were 300+ yards.
LEO seem to use pistol for the majority of the time.
I think it would come down to how much the LEO trains to say if they use the pistol more than .mil

10/18/2012 3:20:47 PM

i just feel like your typical LEO barely ever fires a shot.

so even though its a secondary in battle it's still more likely to be used then a primary... in the crabtree valley mall.

10/18/2012 3:23:56 PM

http://video.foxbusiness.com/v/1907127061001/

10/18/2012 4:05:21 PM

fuck the NRA. they work for gun manufacturers, not gun owners.

10/18/2012 4:07:33 PM

Quote :

"Do you think LEOs fire pistols more then the military ? I feel that even though the military has carbine or rifle as a primary weapon that their secondary is still probably fired more then the local patrolman fires his primary pistol. "

The majority of the military doesn't carry a pistol as a 'secondary'. A lot of admin types carry them as primary weapon systems; Doctors, clerks etc. Also MPs, pilots..

In the infantry, the only guy with a pistol is a machine gunner, and maybe some cherry-ass lieutenant here and there.

So really the only folks that carry a primary and secondary are special operations types. And yes they shoot exponentially more than your average cop.

10/18/2012 5:17:17 PM

The NRA is just like our political system, full of bullshit but no one else can make a dent because they have so much power. Just like our shitty two party system, both parties are full of douche bags who only care about staying in office but shit ain't going to change as long as all the sheep keep supporting them.

[Edited on October 18, 2012 at 5:31 PM. Reason : Fucking autocorrect]

10/18/2012 5:31:19 PM

For an LEO, the handgun is a weapon of necessity and all other systems are opportunity.

10/18/2012 8:43:38 PM

If it wasn't for the NRA, where do you think our gun rights would currently be?

10/18/2012 8:50:43 PM

NRA is shit compared to GRNC. Give your money to them. The NRA makes "deals" and endorses anti-gun congressmen all the time. They'll support legislation that shafts gun rights in order to get something else.

10/19/2012 8:48:36 AM

PSA has their BCG on sale this weekend for $129

http://palmettostatearmory.com/index.php/m16-bolt-carrier-group.html

10/19/2012 5:16:57 PM

Long story short, I dropped one of my guns and it landed on concrete and chipped the frame (stainless). Its not a huge chip, but it bothers the piss out of me since the gun is essentially new. Any home remedies for me? Professional?

[Edited on October 21, 2012 at 11:01 PM. Reason : ...]

10/21/2012 10:44:29 PM

you chipped it? as in a chunk of metal just broke off?

or did you gouge it?

10/21/2012 10:47:04 PM

Gouge would be more appropriate way to describe it.

10/21/2012 10:54:05 PM

you could try to blend it in and make it less noticeable. i'd just call it character and let it remind me to be more careful.

10/21/2012 11:00:03 PM

I have fixed quite a few stainless revolvers. Drop me a PM if you want me to take a look at it.

10/21/2012 11:33:39 PM

[Edited on October 21, 2012 at 11:36 PM. Reason : double]

10/21/2012 11:35:41 PM

picked up a sig 938 this weekend. havent had the chance to shoot it yet though.

10/23/2012 9:13:28 AM

Kel-Tec PMR30 review by Nutnfancy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNnrBn7V82E&feature=plcp

Damn cool gun.

10/26/2012 3:33:34 AM

22WMR ammo is expensive. not sure what purpose that thing serves.

10/26/2012 7:25:42 AM

^ stingers are expensive compared to 22lr, but I buy them

10/26/2012 10:23:37 AM

and other than short range varmint control, i have no idea what purpose stingers serve. i tried them and they blew apart squirrels.

10/26/2012 10:49:24 AM

I may be off base, but it seems like you are an overly critical type of person. Just because you don't like something doesn't mean you have to question it like you do. There are more people in the market than you that do different things and own different weapons than you do.

I buy Stingers to shoot in my SR-22 pistol because my Fiancee loves to shoot that gun. She's a lefty and doesn't like to shoot anything bigger than .22. Stingers are definitely not the most ideal SD ammo, BUT it's the only gun I have (between .380, 9 and 40) that she'll shoot. For practice we run bulk Federal bulk or Stingers through it.

My .380 is loaded with Magtech Guardian 85 gr +P ammo. She hates shooting this gun and couldn't hit the side of a large building with it.

85gr at 1082 fps is 220 ft-lbs of energy

My SR-22 is loaded with CCI Stingers. 22gr at 1640 fps. She loves shooting this gun and is quite a shot with it, plus it has larger capacity.

32gr at 1640 fps is 191 ft-lbs of energy

So the Stingers deliver a little less punch than a +P .380 while allowing her to shoot a gun that she actually enjoys shooting. That's why I buy them.

10/26/2012 12:22:36 PM

self defense is not about enjoyment

not sure why you brought up stingers anyway. hiro said it's a cool gun. i should've said "i don't see why it's so cool. why do you think it's cool?"

Quote :

"Just because you don't like something doesn't mean you have to question it like you do."

this is a forum. we discuss stuff. don't get bent out of shape, just tell me why some folks want a 22WMR pistol. only reason i've got is for dispatching deer during bow and muzzleloader season, when you're allowed to carry a rimfire handgun for dispatching wounded game only. if there are other reasons, please inform me.

[Edited on October 26, 2012 at 12:53 PM. Reason : asdf]

[Edited on October 26, 2012 at 12:54 PM. Reason : honestly can't believe i'm arguing with someone who lets his SO carry a .22LR for SD]

10/26/2012 12:45:30 PM

my boss went out and bought one (PMR30) but it was probably because of the "cool factor" of a rimfire that holds 30 rnds

he hasn't brought it out for a while. fun to shoot though, as long as somebody else pays for ammo

10/26/2012 1:04:15 PM

I'm not bent out of shape, shit doesn't translate well over the internet. I'm saying that it seems like you can always find a negative when someone says or posts something.

Quote :

"only reason i've got is for dispatching deer during bow and muzzleloader season"

There's your problem. How about shooting for recreation? Matches?

My SO doesn't carry any gun with her even though she has her CHP. If she did want to carry it, I would support her though (it's better than nothing, or would you want to argue that too?). I'd rather have her carry a gun she is comfortable and capable with than one she can't shoot anything with.. especially when it is only carries marginally less energy than a +P 380 round.

10/26/2012 1:05:42 PM

Quote :

"How about shooting for recreation? Matches? "

ammo is too expensive for recreation (why not just shoot a .22LR?).

and i can't think of any matches where .22WMR is a good choice. power factors and such. maybe there's some rimfire pistol matches where you could shoot it. ammo cost is a huge factor for most match shooters as well. they have to practice with the exact same stuff with which they compete, so they go through a pile of ammo. that's why they're willing to sacrifice some practice time to reload their own.

10/26/2012 1:13:59 PM

Believe it or not, some people have the budget and desire to shoot 22wmr recreationally as well as in matches.

[Edited on October 26, 2012 at 2:00 PM. Reason : Just like some people buy extremely expensive guns to hunt with]

10/26/2012 1:59:05 PM

i guess i'll just take your word for it

10/26/2012 2:04:07 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLl2Qpq4VFs

The gun is cool. Low recoil, lightweight, ambidextrous, high capacity. I'd like to have one.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZG1MwGX0CIM

Watch that video and tell me it isn't cool!

10/26/2012 2:23:49 PM

yawn

10/26/2012 2:29:31 PM

Anyone here have a bullpup rifle of any kind?

I've been considering one.

10/27/2012 4:21:41 PM

They're cool until you're shooting off-hand and you get a face full of hot brass.

10/27/2012 4:37:54 PM

Can you even get one at a reasonable price?

10/27/2012 4:53:18 PM

Define reasonable price.

What cartridge you looking to bullpup?

FN makes 2 rifles that are bullpup. About $2k each.

PS90
FN2000

Ket-Tec makes the RFB

10/27/2012 5:22:51 PM

5.56

I'll probably wait for the Tavor next year (assuming it actually gets imported), but I've been pretty interested in the AUG A3 as well. Just never had a chance to actually handle one.

10/27/2012 5:25:16 PM

Oh yeah. The Styr Aug and all those like it.

I love the Aug. I love it a lot....

10/27/2012 5:26:04 PM

I too love the Aug. In counter-strike

10/27/2012 5:40:19 PM

"because it's cool" is always enough justification to own any gun.

In practical terms though the only benefit of having a 22 wmr handgun is the ability to penetrate 3a body armor at close range.

10/28/2012 3:45:10 AM

Quote :

""because it's cool" is always enough justification to own any gun. "

i certainly agree. "cool" is a matter of opinion. i don't think it's cool and i was wondering why others think it's "cool".

still just looks like an expensive plinker to me.

10/28/2012 8:53:21 AM

Quote :

"I too love the Aug. In counter-strike"

heh

10/29/2012 8:30:35 AM

lol just saw the commercial for the new call of duty game and saw FPS Russia in it

What a bastard, gets to play with ridiculously awesome guns and parlays that into a commercial gig

10/29/2012 10:05:31 PM

Saw it a minute ago, thought his cameo was pretty funny. I imagine that a good portion of the COD players know who he is

10/29/2012 10:42:35 PM

Fpsrussia was fpskyle a pro gamer at one point. Used his YouTube tips and trick channel to launch fpsrussia. So kinda did it backwords from how you think he did.

10/30/2012 2:31:47 AM

I'm confident more people know about him because he blows things up than because he gives helpful gaming tips

10/30/2012 9:32:26 AM