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"duke is really set at the pg spot next year with kyrie and nolan."

I think Smith probably stays at the 2 spot and Seth Curry takes over as the other PG.

4/17/2010 11:04:37 PM

Jesus H I completely forgot about Seth Curry

The Rich get Richer

and the poor get fucked over and out

4/17/2010 11:06:41 PM

i'll have to see seth curry before i pass judgement. just because he's stephen's brother and dale's son doesn't mean he'll be as good as they were. yes, he averaged 20 ppg at liberty, but he also had a 1:1 assist:turnover ratio. it looks like he might be effective as a shooting guard, but the stats he compiled were against worse defenses than what he'd see in the acc. he did average 25 ppg against virginia and clemson during his one season at liberty but his assist:turnover was way less than 1. with nolan and kyrie, i can't see curry playing pg.

4/18/2010 1:00:10 AM

keep this in mind: for you to get assists, your teammates have to be able to hit baskets.

4/18/2010 1:23:44 AM

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"dale's son"

...

4/18/2010 1:32:59 AM

All I want to do is race, daddy.

4/18/2010 1:39:56 AM

also keep in mind that hes bee playing with duke for a year already.

4/18/2010 1:52:18 AM

dale's son isn't really his son

4/18/2010 2:38:06 AM

wow, i typed in dale instead of dell. that was definitely worth all the shit posts.

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"keep this in mind: for you to get assists, your teammates have to be able to hit baskets."

true, but look at the top assist:turnover ratios this past season.

Rank	Name, Team	Cl	Ht	Pos	G	AST	TO	                Ratio
1	John Boyer, Buffalo	Sr.	6-1	G	30	159	43	                3.70
2	Maurice Acker, Marquette	Sr.	5-8	G	34	127	41	        3.10
3	Jordan Taylor, Wisconsin	So.	6-1	G	33	118	39	        3.03
4	Jon Scheyer, Duke	Sr.	6-5	G	40	194	65	                2.98
5	Russell Graham, New Hampshire	So.	6-0	G	30	121	41	2.95
6	Josten Crow, Sam Houston St.	Jr.	6-4	F	33	127	44	2.89
7	Stevie Mejia, Rhode Island	So.	5-9	G	36	127	45	        2.82
8	Mike Marcial, Sacramento St.	Sr.	6-1	G	30	103	37	        2.78
9	Eric Bell, Stephen F. Austin	Sr.	5-6	G	25	95	35	        2.71
10	Brendan McKillop, Davidson	Jr.	6-1	G	31	124	46	        2.70
11	Desmond Wade, Houston	So.	5-8	G	35	167	62	        2.69
12	Tory Jackson, Notre Dame	Sr.	5-11	G	35	185	69	        2.68
13	Julyan Stone, UTEP	Jr.	6-6	G	33	180	68	                2.65
14	Ronald Moore, Siena	Sr.	6-0	G	34	261	100	                2.61
15	Marquis Hall, Lehigh	Sr.	6-0	G	33	187	72	                2.60
16	Chris Long, Elon	Jr.	6-2	G	32	134	52	                        2.58
17	Jared Quayle, Utah St.	Sr.	6-1	G	35	144	56	                2.57
18	Danny Nieman, Coastal Caro.	Fr.	6-1	G	33	102	40	        2.55
19	Chris Bass, LSU	So.	6-0	G	31	99	39	                        2.54
20	Tony Taylor, George Washington	So.	6-1	G	31	129	51	2.53

4/18/2010 2:55:50 AM

Definitely

4/18/2010 3:18:34 AM

meh. lets see scheyer's freshman ratio.

4/18/2010 10:02:33 AM

Scheyer as a freshman:

1.8 assists to 1.6 turnovers....1.17 A/T

averaged ~34 minutes per game that season

scored in double figures in 23 of their 33 games

zero double digit assists games

4/18/2010 10:10:20 AM

note that scheyer wasn't a pg his freshman year. he was a pure shooter in the jj reddick mold. even though he had a 1.17 A:T, he only had 61 assists. compare that with his numbers when paulus was benched/left program. 102 his junior year and 194 his senior year, even with nolan smith playing pg along side of him. he did become a better passer over time, but he got more opportunities to run the offense as an upperclassman.

that said, i assume seth curry will become a better passer but if he's going to play point, he'll have to mature quickly. luckily, he won't have to play a road game for about 3 months into season

4/18/2010 11:11:27 AM

you don't think Kyrie comes in and starts at the PG right away? The other freshman PG Tyler Thornton would back him up. If he did that, they'd have Smith at the 2 with Curry backing him up, Singler at the 3 if he returns next year, and the Plumlee's down low with Ryan Kelly and incoming freshman Josh Hairston.

4/18/2010 11:18:32 AM

fair enough that nolan played sg with scheyer running most of the point, but he has 3 years experience at the position with coach k. i can't see irving taking that spot from him on day 1.

[Edited on April 18, 2010 at 11:28 AM. Reason : ...]

4/18/2010 11:25:18 AM

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"irving isn't going to take the position on day 1"

he's not going to be the first player at Duke to wear number 1 for no reason. kid is gonna start at PG from day one.

4/18/2010 11:28:25 AM

what the hell does coach k have to gain by putting smith at pg? he sucked there (not paulus bad but still bad) and was amazing this year at the 2. granted, some of that was probably just experience and getting better but I dont see why'd you go and ruin a good thing for no reason

4/18/2010 2:04:07 PM

If you watched the Jordan Brand Classic last night (I know it's just a stupid all-star game, but still) you would have come away very impressed with Kyrie Irvring. Dude is going to be sick. I like the fact that Coach K went out and signed a JUCO SF in Carrick Felix to solidify the 3 for the next 3 years (dude redshirted his first year in JUCO). Felix is supposedly very athletic, and with Singler being gone either this year or next Coach K needed a SF that could contribute right away. Here's how I see their roster breaking down next year with the starters listed first.

PG - Irving, Thornton (Thornton is actually more of a combo guard than a true PG though)
SG - Smith, Dawkins, Curry (here it doesn't matter, I think K lets Dawkins and Curry figure out who's coming in for Smith based on how they are playing)
SF - Singler (if he stays), Felix
PF - Mason Plumlee, Kelly
C - Miles Plumlee, Hairston

4/18/2010 2:14:17 PM

only real question marks for Duke next year are in the frontcourt... i think the Plumlees will improve and be pretty good, but they're really gonna miss the rebounding from Zoubek and Thomas. plus having 4 bigs to give fouls last year really helped.

4/18/2010 2:17:11 PM

God, I hope Ryan Kelly gets a bunch of playing time

4/18/2010 2:33:00 PM

Kelly follows in a long line of ugly, weird looking white dudes to play for Duke.

4/18/2010 2:44:50 PM

a lot of us wanted him to be our ugly, weird looking white dude. he went duke so we went down under and got vandy.

4/18/2010 2:47:29 PM

biggest mistake of his life ...

Coulda taken horners spot this year at the 4, and we would have been much better off (not to mention that he would have played more than 5 minutes a game, if that).

He'll take a backseat to the plumlees his whole career at duke.

4/18/2010 2:52:41 PM

I must have clicked the wrong thread, could some one show me where the NC State recruiting thread is?

thnx!

4/18/2010 2:56:00 PM

^ your girlfriend when you were in school was HOTTT

4/18/2010 2:57:30 PM

Quote :

"Camera Man: "I understand John Calipari Came in for a visit recently, what was that like?" CJ: "It was good. He wanted to go over some last minute stuff. How he was going to play me and how he sees me. Thats about it." Camera Man: "How does he see you?" CJ: "Just an athletic forward. Somebody who can do a little bit of everything. Hes going to let me play all over the court. He was saying he just wants to go ahead and get this done and stuff like that." Camera Man: "I'm sure he does. What other coaches have come in and seen you recently?" CJ: "Coach Cal is the only coach that has come in, so far." Camera Man: "Does that mean something? That he was the only one?" CJ: "Yea that definitely means a lot. It means that he's going after me pretty hard now...well, he's been going after me pretty hard, but, it's going to play it's part in my decision." Camera Man: "It is going to play a part?" CJ: "Yea""

http://www.kentucky.com/2010/04/17/1228532/lamb-commits-to-cats.html

[Edited on April 18, 2010 at 3:03 PM. Reason : .]

4/18/2010 3:03:27 PM

IIRC I think Lowe will be the last coach that makes an in-home visit with Leslie.

4/18/2010 3:30:29 PM

^^In the video on that page Leslie said he wasn't making the visit to UF anymore, whatever that means

4/18/2010 3:34:15 PM

I think UF said they cancelled his visit. Hopefully that means he has officially made his decision and UF learned of it.

4/18/2010 3:47:46 PM

they didn't want him to waste their time

they know it's between us and UK

4/18/2010 3:55:06 PM

Lowe needs to get in on that home visit

4/18/2010 4:06:07 PM

Epic disappointment looming ITT

4/18/2010 4:07:11 PM

From what I've read on Pack Pride each coach only gets one in home visit. I'd rather have Lowe be the last of the 2 between him and Calipari than the first.

4/18/2010 4:12:25 PM

Plus what I have heard about CJL being on campus playing ball all the time it's not like lowe isn't getting any face time.

4/18/2010 4:22:08 PM

I could be wrong but I'm nearly certain those are all considered unofficial visits and Lowe would not be allowed anything more than a "hello" type of interaction.

4/18/2010 4:34:01 PM

i'll take howell playing 30mpg over splitting time with kelly any day

4/18/2010 4:52:48 PM

You gotta worry a little less about Lorenzo after seeing this!

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"Lorenzo Brown man oh man trying to keep everyone happy is harder than i thought... im just ready for july to get here so me and my lil brother Ryan Harrow can step foot on NC State's campus and get this bball season started... phew! only 3 more months to go people"

4/18/2010 4:56:11 PM

^worry about what?

4/18/2010 5:00:29 PM

Not qualifying

4/18/2010 5:01:39 PM

and that post allays that concern how? he's been posting shit like that for months

4/18/2010 5:05:15 PM

Why are you guys worried about Brown so much? There hasn't been news for a reason. When's the last time a kid went to Hargrave and DIDN'T qualify?

4/18/2010 5:31:10 PM

Quote :

""Now Leslie envisions a decision within the next two weeks." "

hahaha, good because he's only had a year or so to decide since he decommited. what's two more weeks?


[Edited on April 18, 2010 at 5:55 PM. Reason : apparently it's only been a year, feels like a decade the way this has dragged out]

4/18/2010 5:52:50 PM

so it looks like Mays is gone

4/18/2010 7:33:13 PM

do what now

4/18/2010 7:38:13 PM

??????

4/18/2010 7:49:53 PM

^^^ I heard he may transfer, but the Wright State coach left. Any new developments?

4/18/2010 7:50:50 PM

Word on the internet is that Mays is transferring, because he won't be seeing much playing time with the new PGs coming in.

[Edited on April 18, 2010 at 7:53 PM. Reason : dunno where to though]

4/18/2010 7:53:16 PM

that is disappointing, i kindof like mays.

it's hard to say b/c the offense always seems to do nothing when he's in, but he almost always has a good stat line.

[Edited on April 18, 2010 at 7:59 PM. Reason : i always hate it for a kid when they transfer, though.]

4/18/2010 7:57:43 PM

needed the depth. He seemed like a better shooter than PG. His stroke looks good, but he always had to worry about running the offense.

4/18/2010 8:05:12 PM

I would have liked Mays to be backup SG.. he was never a PG, but would be solid stealing 10-15 minutes a game at the 2

4/18/2010 8:07:53 PM