Only purchased books. What books / where did you buy them? Nook has an app as well that syncs I believe. I don't see any reason to ever use epub unless you're pirating books or getting copy right free books which are available on Amazon/Nook for free anyway.

11/5/2012 3:55:03 PM

probably stuff like http://storybundle.com/

11/5/2012 4:01:45 PM

I think you can email epub files to Amazon and they'll convert them and send them to whatever devices you specify. Once they're on your account they'll sync.

11/5/2012 4:09:11 PM

Tell me what 7" tablet to buy.

11/5/2012 4:10:49 PM

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"Only purchased books. What books / where did you buy them? Nook has an app as well that syncs I believe. I don't see any reason to ever use epub unless you're pirating books or getting copy right free books which are available on Amazon/Nook for free anyway."

i have a sizable library from my first ereader, which was a sony and books were purchased from the reader store at the time

so the solution of using 3 different apps (because i have items purchased from amazon when i had my kindle and B&N on my nook) isn't really what i'm looking for...i can already do that and it's stupid

and yeah yeah, i know you hate open source for no reason other than you have a kindle and feel the need to defend the .mobi format (despite the inarguable fact that, if nothing else, every .mobi format book is larger in filesize - with no benefit - than the comparable .epub)...that's independent of the fact that there are far more lendable .epubs than .mobi format books at the wake county library

but i'm not looking for an argument about it...i like open source and you don't...nothing is going to convince me that amazon shouldn't support .epubs and nothing is going to convince you that .mobi isn't the single greatest thing in the world

11/5/2012 4:12:31 PM

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"and yeah yeah, i know you hate open source for no reason other than you have a kindle and feel the need to defend the .mobi format (despite the inarguable fact that, if nothing else, every .mobi format book is larger in filesize - with no benefit - than the comparable .epub)...that's independent of the fact that there are far more lendable .epubs than .mobi format books at the wake county library"

No I started with Sony e-reader and I loved e-pub. Then I got a Kindle and my parents, brother, and I all read similar genres of books. We split the cost and each contribute to the whole. We have hundreds of books on our Amazon account and it's really really easy to buy books and share them.

It's not that I don't dislike e-pub it's that I've never had a reason to use it after switching to the Kindle.

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"if nothing else, every .mobi format book is larger in filesize"

This is a silly argument. My Kindle 3 holds an average of "3500" books. I only read 1 maybe 2 at a time and archiving/downloading them from Amazon is instant and easy.

11/5/2012 4:17:23 PM

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"Then I got a Kindle and my parents, brother, and I all read similar genres of books. We split the cost and each contribute to the whole. We have hundreds of books on our Amazon account and it's really really easy to buy books and share them. "

yeah, well, that's the not the case for me and so there is exactly zero value in that...great for you, but it does nothing to solve my problem

Quote :

"This is a silly argument. My Kindle 3 holds an average of "3500" books. I only read 1 maybe 2 at a time and archiving/downloading them from Amazon is instant and easy."

it's not an argument, per se...i'm just pointing out that there is not a single thing the .mobi does better and it has the disadvantage of being larger (again, with no added benefit)

in any case, i didn't come into the android thread to debate the merits of a format that has nothing to do with android...there was no reason for you to start arguing for .mobi as being the greatest thing in the world and suggesting that only pirates use the open format of .epub

11/5/2012 4:29:37 PM

uh, he didn't. you were the one that started all this bullshit

[Edited on November 5, 2012 at 4:38 PM. Reason : I mean, come the fuck on]

11/5/2012 4:37:40 PM

^ oh, fuck off...he said:

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"I don't see any reason to ever use epub unless you're pirating books or getting copy right free books which are available on Amazon/Nook for free anyway."

in response to my question about whether the kindle app syncs only amazon purchased books

are you too dumb to read or just being a dick to be a dick?

11/5/2012 4:40:18 PM

so, point me to the part where he said .mobi was the bee's knees

[Edited on November 5, 2012 at 4:42 PM. Reason : this guy]

11/5/2012 4:41:27 PM

i pirate my books

11/5/2012 4:44:17 PM

^^ the thread about amazon's new kindle releases where we went back and forth...he likes .mobi, not because it has any actual advantages (because it has exactly 0 and suffers from being unnecessarily large in file size), but because he has a kindle and likes how amazon's library model works...which is a perfectly good reason to buy the kindle, but is irrelevant in regards to my question about using a single app to sync my library and my current position in the book(s) i'm reading

[Edited on November 5, 2012 at 4:47 PM. Reason : carats]

11/5/2012 4:45:58 PM

Your point is valid for your situation. I think that other thread was me simply pointing out that Amazon's Kindle strategy is not making a profit on the devices but relying on the content for profit (why they don't support epub - because they would essentially be giving you a device for free).

Another reason I dislike epub is because it's not standardized. When I had a bunch of random epub files trying to use Calibre was a pain. The margins were never correct, formats were always off. Sure I didn't spend a massive amount of time trying to fix every file but I really like .mobi because it's standardized. Everything displays great on my Kindle. I don't have to mess with anything. I understand that isn't the case in your situation. I wasn't trying to dispute that.

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"i have a sizable library from my first ereader, which was a sony and books were purchased from the reader store at the time"

Just curious but how many of your books do you actually re-read? If you have a Kindle now don't you just get books via Amazon moving forward?

[Edited on November 5, 2012 at 4:54 PM. Reason : s]

11/5/2012 4:50:39 PM

btw I use Aldiko to read epub files on my tablet

i dont think it synchs though, but its a decent reader

11/5/2012 5:05:32 PM

Quote :

"Your point is valid for your situation. I think that other thread was me simply pointing out that Amazon's Kindle strategy is not making a profit on the devices but relying on the content for profit (why they don't support epub - because they would essentially be giving you a device for free)."

i have not looked into it at all, and so maybe B&N is losing money on every nook they sell...but then so every single e-reader out there is losing money...because the kindle is the only one of the biggest competitors that refuses to support epub...how do the other companies stay solvent if what you say is true?

the truth is that amazon is trying to duplicate apple's ecosystem model...which, obviously, has worked well for apple (for the most part)...doesn't make it any less annoying that they refuse to support open formats so as to ensure that you can only pay them for the pleasure of using their device

Quote :

"Another reason I dislike epub is because it's not standardized. When I had a bunch of random epub files trying to use Calibre was a pain. The margins were never correct, formats were always off. Sure I didn't spend a massive amount of time trying to fix every file but I really like .mobi because it's standardized. Everything displays great on my Kindle. I don't have to mess with anything. I understand that isn't the case in your situation. I wasn't trying to dispute that."

i cannot believe you've ever had trouble with a legit epub not displaying correctly...you're right in that epubs can better display the book as it would show up in the book itself, but i simply don't believe that legal epubs have ever been bad

and if your argument is against calibre...that's a problem with calibre, not the format...in fact, go to the calibre forums and see how many complaints there are concerning the conversion from mobi to epub...the reverse is hardly ever problematic

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"Just curious but how many of your books do you actually re-read? If you have a Kindle now don't you just get books via Amazon moving forward? "

i got gift cards for use in the reader store when i first go my sony...so i bought books that i knew i'd want to read

do i have 1000? no...do i have around 20? yes

and sure, i can convert every single book to the same format (and i'm willing to do this), but that goes back to finding an app that will let me sync all of those books whether i purchased them from the sony reader store, the amazon kindle store, the B&N nook store, or downloaded copyright-free books

and if the answer is that no one knows of an app that does what i want, that's fine...the fact remains that it's not an issue of format and the sony/kindle/nook app isn't the solution i'm looking for

Quote :

"btw I use Aldiko to read epub files on my tablet i dont think it synchs though, but its a decent reader"

this article suggest that aldiko DOES sync: http://apcmag.com/how-to-sync-ebook-reading-progress-between-devices.htm

hmmm

[Edited on November 5, 2012 at 5:11 PM. Reason : aldiko link]

11/5/2012 5:08:52 PM

sounds like it does using dropbox, and you only need the free alkido app and the free sync app

11/5/2012 5:21:15 PM

Quote :

"i have not looked into it at all, and so maybe B&N is losing money on every nook they sell...but then so every single e-reader out there is losing money...because the kindle is the only one of the biggest competitors that refuses to support epub...how do the other companies stay solvent if what you say is true?"

No this is exactly their business model. They don't "refuse" to support epub. they don't NEED to support epub. They make their money off the massive sales of content from their website. It's an incredibly smart business model selling the devices for so cheap and making it so easy for consumers to purchase content.

Hell Jeff Bezos even said during the last Kindle introduction:

“We want to make money when people use our devices, not when they buy our devices.”

http://techpinions.com/battle-of-the-tablet-business-models-amazon-kindle-fire/10619

http://www.digitopoly.org/2012/09/06/amazon-diversifies-on-the-business-model/:

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"It is tempting to suggest that Amazon are clearly competing on price compared with Apple. But, in reality, it is a different business model. Apple don’t try to make money from content (apps, books etc) and various calculations suggest they don’t which is why they cede pricing control to others. That means they make money when they sell devices and so they have to earn a mark-up there. And that is why Apple’s content store is tied to its devices and available nowhere else."

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" the truth is that amazon is trying to duplicate apple's ecosystem model...which, obviously, has worked well for apple (for the most part)...doesn't make it any less annoying that they refuse to support open formats so as to ensure that you can only pay them for the pleasure of using their device"

NO this is the opposite of what they're trying to do. They created a new business model. Apple makes a massive profit off the sale of their devices. Amazon does not. It's an entirely different model.

Now I'm not saying this business model is sustainable but that's what they're currently doing.

I don't dislike or not support epub. i think it has it's place but not on a Kindle. Amazon wouldn't be able to sell their devices for so cheap if it wasn't for advertising and all the content they sell and they certainly wouldn't be able to sell their devices so cheaply if they easily gave a way for people NOT to buy content from their site.

11/6/2012 9:13:44 AM

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"Amazon wouldn't be able to sell their devices for so cheap if it wasn't for advertising and all the content they sell and they certainly wouldn't be able to sell their devices so cheaply if they easily gave a way for people NOT to buy content from their site."

so this is where i'm confused...amazon's device prices are no cheaper (or more expensive) than their competitors' (with the exception of ad-supported devices)

so how is it that the other companies are able to make money on their hardware without forcing folks to use their proprietary format while amazon loses money UNLESS they force proprietary formats? or are you saying that all the other companies are losing money generation after generation?

11/6/2012 9:27:37 AM

You make it sound like I'm the only one with this opinion. It's been big news that this is Amazon's business model.

What other devices are you talking about? Nook? Sony e-reader? I'm not completely well versed on the pricing of other e-readers but the reason Amazon sells their devices so cheaply is because they rely on content to make a profit. Supporting epub would be stupid because it would make their consumers NOT profitable. I don't understand what's not to understand about that?

11/6/2012 9:32:28 AM

and i feel like you're being intentionally dense...the costs for the devices are comparable

kindle paperwhite: $119
B&N nook simple touch: $119

kindle fire HD: $199
B&N nook HD: $199

kindle fire HD 8.9": $299
B&N nook HD+ (9"): $269

your argument is that amazon's hardware prices are "so cheap" because they make up the cost by requiring you to purchase their proprietary format...so why are B&N's prices "so cheap" without having to make you use their special format? shouldn't they be out of business now?

11/6/2012 9:48:07 AM

I see your point. I'm not trying to say Amazon should or shouldn't support epub I'm just explaining my impression of their business model from the news I've read is and what the CEO said.

On another note this is a pretty sweet promotional video for the Note 2:

http://www.samsung.com/global/microsite/galaxynote/note2/videos.html?type=find

11/6/2012 10:11:41 AM

i know it comes down to preference...it sounds like the library functionality of amazon is PERFECT for you...saves you money and makes your life easier

we obviously support whichever model that works best for us with our money...i don't begrudge YOU for finding something that works well for you, just because it's different from me...my point is just that amazon's supposed reasons for not supporting an open format are actually as simple as "we are afraid we'll lose money if we don't lock our customers into using our proprietary format"

of COURSE it comes down to money...honestly, i suspect that B&N would do the same thing were it not for the fact that they're trying to transition from one model to another and competing with amazon is freaking hard

11/6/2012 10:16:28 AM

Makes sense.

Pre-ordered my Note 2. Hopefully getting it on Friday. So excited. Ready for the barrage of people making fun of my phablet.

11/6/2012 11:37:54 AM

i'm interested in your review of it

i can't imagine wanting something that big...but who knows, it might be the next greatest thing

11/6/2012 11:38:59 AM

Yeah that's my biggest concern but from all the reviews I've read everyone loves it. Wired gave it a 9/10 for a phone and the Amazon international version has 23 5/5 reviews and counting. Seems like everyone is really impressed with it.

Now if I can only sell my iPad 3 I'll be set. No luck there.

11/6/2012 11:41:14 AM

it seems like a normal size when Lebron James is holding one, so i want it

11/6/2012 12:50:28 PM

Not to mention the pen...larger rubber tip, slightly bigger diameter (8mm) and increased length.

11/6/2012 1:47:05 PM

Is there a ROM with stock (or close-to stock) Jellybean available for the AT&T Galaxy S3?

11/6/2012 1:54:40 PM

^ http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1633

11/6/2012 1:59:37 PM

Yeah the CM10 rom is pretty close to stock. I found there were a few bugs though and I liked the touch wiz interface a lot better than stock JB. Samsung touch wiz emphasizes lots of black menus (because the Galaxy devices are OLED so blacks are awesome) which look a lot better on an OLED screen than the stock JB ones.

11/6/2012 2:00:45 PM

Went and played with the non-functional Note II and functional Note at Best Buy. I want one soo bad now.

11/7/2012 12:45:30 PM

Bleh mines ordered through AT&T and they said Friday but I'm highly doubtful.

11/7/2012 1:57:44 PM

Woohoo shipped and getting here Friday!

11/8/2012 9:43:36 AM

didn't you just get an s3?

11/8/2012 10:14:24 AM

Returned it after reading about the note. Really wanted something to replace my iPad / Kindle. The blacks are so great on the OLED screens reading with white font/black background is great in the dark and 5.5" I feel like is plenty for a novel.

11/8/2012 10:23:43 AM

anybody know where can i find the differences between the Note II UI vs stock android? it's been suggested that i put stock android on mine, but i have no idea what the differences are, i can't decide if i want to spend my time bothering with that

11/8/2012 10:30:38 AM

I wouldn't. I had a CM10 on my Galaxy S3 and it was buggy and I didn't like the stock interface compared to Samsung's Touchwiz. The black style menus are much better and tailored to the OLED screen on the Galaxy phones.

Just install a launcher like Apex and it looks just like stock JB. Turn off the Samsung features you don't want and be happy. You're not really gaining anything by installing a stock JB rom that you can't get by installing a launcher or disabling certain features.

Plus even more so for the Galaxy Note 2 you need the Samsung Touchwiz features/interface to utilize the S-pen features. If you install a stock JB rom you'll be losing all the pen features.

11/8/2012 10:42:42 AM

Unboxing! This thing isn't as big as I thought from the pics. Much nicer feeling than the Galaxy Note 1.

11/9/2012 12:41:45 PM

Nexus 4 orders just went live in the US play store. Judging by Europe, they'll be sold out in minutes. I've got one on the way.

11/13/2012 11:37:38 AM

Battery life is pretty stellar on the Note 2:



My screen on time is only 3.5 hours but 26 hours and still at 39% (Never went into airplane mode and i'm on LTE) is pretty nice.

[Edited on November 13, 2012 at 11:41 AM. Reason : s]

11/13/2012 11:40:47 AM

Who's got an Ingress invite?!?

11/16/2012 11:56:18 AM

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nianticproject.ingress

not me

11/16/2012 12:03:58 PM

that app looks smoooooth on the SGS3

right up until it asks for the activation code

anybody have any luck getting an invite?

11/16/2012 1:06:23 PM

No and I can't find any reviews or youtube videos. Don't know if anyones gotten one. Although there are a bunch of comments on the Play store.

11/16/2012 1:59:33 PM

from http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1222933&page=2

a few guys over there are trying to analyze all the released info surrounding Ingress/Niantic Project

[Edited on November 16, 2012 at 3:17 PM. Reason : check out http://www.nianticproject.com]

11/16/2012 3:16:01 PM

message_topic.aspx?topic=632638

get in my thread! jk. I want an invite already. Although I'm pretty sure it'll be larger cities first.

11/16/2012 3:42:57 PM

ha, Nexus 10 came and had it borked about 30min later. Unlocked the bootloader and it just got hung on the Nexus boot screen and recovery wouldn't work. Ended up fastbooting the stock image files and was able to get into recovery to factory reset.

11/16/2012 4:55:53 PM

Quote :

"ha, Nexus 10 came and had it borked about 30min later. "

Nice.

11/16/2012 5:38:44 PM

running 4.2 - gesture is nice in that it actually works with the stock browser, but it's not quite as good as swype. it's close enough that i'm still using it.

11/17/2012 4:18:52 PM

Apparently one of the cool new features in Android 4.2 is that they managed to remove the entire month of December.

https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=39692

11/17/2012 7:31:45 PM