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"Costner would have been more developed than he is, and Fells would be less lazy or not playing at all "

That makes no sense at all

you mean costner would be jacking up more threes and wouldnt be 3rd in the ACC in rebounding if herb was coaching him.

Fells maybe, maybe not but i'd rather have a semi lazy fells than a scrub neiman or some other walk on.

2/23/2007 12:11:05 AM

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/standings?year=2005



2005 season we lost to St. Johns in that game.....they were 9-18 that year and were 3-13 that year in the pre-expansion big east.

2/23/2007 12:12:51 AM

Ok, say there were comparable to Miami this year...

[Edited on February 23, 2007 at 12:14 AM. Reason : or wake forest...]

2/23/2007 12:14:39 AM

I agree, I'm just saying I think we lose a game or two like that out of conference and win against Miami this year.


We did lose to a 3-13 Wake team twice in one week last year....and that was with a really good team.

[Edited on February 23, 2007 at 12:23 AM. Reason : I'm done with this you know what I'm trying to say....too early to judge either way. ]

2/23/2007 12:22:54 AM

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"also, although Lowe is kinda playing with Herbs players, and Herb with ASU's previous coaches players...look at how well herb did in his first year there...and then look at sid's first year here. look at our recruiting class for next yr, not to mention the year after. So we traded off two years of NCSU college bball in the NCAA at worst, and only going one maybe two rounds at best, for something that will actually make us contenders."

Haha they are in equal positions? I challenge all of the continuous Herb haters, even after the man left like you all wanted, to actually watch a ASU game and tell me that he has as much talent as Sidney has. Our starting 5 might be 2nd best in the ACC to UNC. Seriously. But we have nothing after that.

Oh and FYI, Herb's recruiting class for next year is ranked 11th, higher than Lowe's.

And in no way am I bashing Lowe, I love him. I liked Herb. I like Sidney. I just defend Herb.

^We lost to a REALLY bad Cincy team this year that is worse than that St. Johns team.

[Edited on February 23, 2007 at 12:25 AM. Reason : Lock this thread....shit is old....stop bringing up Herb so I will quit defending him]

2/23/2007 12:24:45 AM

dude....read the rest of what I posted. I'm not even arguing. I'm bringing up games that both sidney and herb lost to prove that nobody has a fucking point here in this argument. Its too early to judge anyone.



And it depends on who you ask about the recruiting rankings. I think Rivals has State ranked like 5 spots ahead of ASU....Scout is reversed.

[Edited on February 23, 2007 at 12:28 AM. Reason : ]

2/23/2007 12:27:10 AM

I wasn't directing what I said to you....it was to the idiot that made that post saying they were in equal positions.

This is really old and pointless.

2/23/2007 12:27:58 AM

no I'm talking about your cincy comment. I know every game lost the past 4 seasons. I'm just trying to get people to stop beign idiots.

2/23/2007 12:29:35 AM

cool.

/argument about Herb in the Official UNC game thread. Make a proper thread anybody else that wants to discuss it, so that it can be locked.

WolfAce out.......

[Edited on February 23, 2007 at 3:22 AM. Reason : .]

2/23/2007 3:21:56 AM

this has been my favorite, yet least successful, basketball team we've had in my 3 years here so far...

meaning,,, thank you Sidney

2/23/2007 8:00:45 AM

why is it your favorite?

2/23/2007 9:37:49 AM

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2/23/2007 11:04:30 AM

I only want to say one thing to this thread

CharlieEFH, you are a fucking idiot. Never ever post in Sports Talk again. Ive never seen such dumb shit posted over and over again.

2/23/2007 11:57:16 AM

Game over.

2/23/2007 1:03:59 PM

hahaha

2/23/2007 1:23:47 PM

so frasor is 21 year old sophomore???
or is he doin the "im a basketball player for chapel hill so i drink if i want"

2/23/2007 1:41:27 PM

haha, is the other guy travel hansblow

2/23/2007 1:50:21 PM

omg i didnt even realized it kinda looks like him and could be him...

2/23/2007 1:53:39 PM

i hea people talking about cincy game. you can't blame sidney for something that happened due to an injury. this year would have been really good if atsur didn't get hurt and it shows as proof.

herb runs a low talent system and being ncstate he was able to bring in alot of talent. he squandered every bit of it with his instable offense. Like i said, he was a terrible fit for a program like this and we WASTED 10 years

we were loaded last year and tailspinned into the tournament. Sidney lowe has takent a small ammount of players and done great things. The atsur injury was the only thing holding him back this year.

2/23/2007 2:41:38 PM

Oh that's Hansborough all right.

2/23/2007 3:13:07 PM