18 pts for us today

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"this is about daniel evans being the worst quarterback in all of football."

no way is he worse than jay davis

11/17/2007 7:43:14 PM

lol. I'm sure you can find at least 1 qb that makes him look like god.

oh and

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"Daniel Evans 24/56 for 287 yds, 1 TD and 3 ints"

for those stat whores.

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11/17/2007 7:45:52 PM

1st half of the season
1-5

Second half so far
4-1


I smell crabcakes

11/17/2007 7:46:03 PM

i'd rather have jay davis or reggie ball than evans. i shit you not.

11/17/2007 7:46:16 PM

The way you guys treat Evans you'd think he was a 5* recruit. He should be a walk-on at Elon, not starting at NCSU.

Cut him some slack. We're 5-6 with at team that should be 1-10.

You guys are probably the same ones that beat your kid for spilling his milk.

11/17/2007 7:46:17 PM

in soviet russia, milk spills you!

11/17/2007 7:47:14 PM

on the brightside evans had positive rushing yardage(+2) Damn, we only had 57yds rushing.

11/17/2007 7:48:24 PM

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"He should be a walk-on at Elon, not starting at NCSU."

i'll admit... that made me smile.

11/17/2007 7:48:25 PM

our Defense was as bad as Evans

11/17/2007 7:48:35 PM

our defense was pretty solid for the most part, especially the 2nd half.

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11/17/2007 7:49:31 PM

the defense gets a C, but they played well enough to put us in a position to win.

11/17/2007 7:51:43 PM

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"and apparently tej434 is one of those Evans ball lickers."

Nah, I'm the guy says he's the best we have, not great never will be, DEFINITLY didn't play well today...but some of you guys' calls are plain stupid. Like that last int...it was not that behind spencer, he didn't stop and turn around, it was on his back hip. The play before went off his finger tips cause he stopped running, the next one was a very well thrown ball. You throw that ball out in front 1) spencer is crushed=int/him dead/incomplete 2) picked off by the linebacker sliding. The pick to Dunlap was a good ball, dunlap won great positioning then misplayed the ball. Some of you guys just act like he's the only reason we lost the game or anything ever goes wrong because for some reason you're obbsessed with him.

Playing calling was terrible, no way should Evans be throwing the ball 56 times...that's more than Kobie shoots. We gave up 217 yards rushing. 11 penalties for 90 yards. Also lost a fumble. Only 57 yards on the ground. Can't find dropped passes anywhere, but there were plenty of those too. We just didn't play well in the first half. Could have been a completely different game if Grey didn't do whatever he did (really did look like he just got lost or something).

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11/17/2007 7:53:46 PM

you obviously need to take another look at those passes.

11/17/2007 7:54:29 PM

feed pttndyl and simmon.. they are loving this.


i hope we get destroyed by maryland just to please them.. kthxbye guys

11/17/2007 7:58:51 PM

WHAT. THE. FUCK.

i froze my ass off out there for 4 hours and for what? fuck the pack

11/17/2007 7:59:12 PM

no need to feed. Some people just need to take amato's red glasses off.

11/17/2007 8:00:07 PM

Daniel Evans and Adam Kiker are best friends.

11/17/2007 8:00:25 PM

So the best bowl game we can make if we win next week is Boise, right?

Cause whoever wins between Maryland and State will be 6-6.

There are 7 other teams with 7 or more wins in the ACC and they're required to get picked first.

There's also Miami at 5-6, but the number of fans they'd take to Boise would be in single digits.

11/17/2007 8:03:21 PM

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"Playing calling was terrible, no way should Evans be throwing the ball 56 times...that's more than Kobie shoots. We gave up 217 yards rushing. 11 penalties for 90 yards. Also lost a fumble. Only 57 yards on the ground. Can't find dropped passes anywhere, but there were plenty of those too. We just didn't play well in the first half. Could have been a completely different game if Grey didn't do whatever he did (really did look like he just got lost or something)."

Are those stats that say State should have won?

But all you can comment on is what everyone already knows...Evans is a mediocore QB that won't be great.

11/17/2007 8:03:29 PM

^^^^no you need to stop being such a douche bag

Yes some fans have way to high expectations but for the most part fans understand that A: our QB is below average B:our Qb throws copious amounts of pick 6's and C: you like to stir the hornets nest

[Edited on November 17, 2007 at 8:04 PM. Reason : ^^]

11/17/2007 8:03:32 PM

No way Evans should be throwing the ball more than 56 times. That's more at bats than a typical baseball game

11/17/2007 8:14:05 PM

^true....I mean with Eugene and Brown coming back you'd think we would run a little bit more but jesus.....If evans throws that much its bound to be pick 6'd at least once.


ugh

11/17/2007 8:15:45 PM

we suck again

FIRE TOB

11/17/2007 8:17:05 PM

hmm...
@ECU
Passing: Evans-29/44(335yds)
Rushing: Eugene-22 carries(63yds)

UVA
Passing: Evans- 26/46(347yds)
Rushing: Eugene-23 carries(111yds)

@Miami
Passing: Evans- 19/40(207yds)
Rushing: Eugene-27 carries(89yds)

UNC
Passing: Evans- 26/42(229yds)
Rushing: Eugene-32 carries(159yds)

@WF
Passing: Evans- 24/56(287yds)
Rushing: Eugene-18 carries(55yds)

11/17/2007 8:29:10 PM

^we got away from the run way too early imo.

It was slow going when we started but as the game went on we stated to carve out more yards.....

In the end we relied too heavy on evans arm which is not the best thing to rely on.

11/17/2007 8:42:59 PM

i knew when everyone started assuming we were going to win this we were going to lose

11/17/2007 10:08:56 PM

I knew when Maryland lost that we were gonna lose . . . that way us and Maryland are playing for bowl eligibility. And I'll call it now that it will go down to the wire. This is NC State afterall and things are always close and get your heart pumping.

11/17/2007 10:14:03 PM

sorry guys. just wasnt in the cards for the pack. good game though... i've never been in a football stadium that small except maybe wallace wade. lots of state fans turned up too.... wake student section was cruel at heckling the few displaced state fans that sat nearby but you guys are the worst when it comes to that

11/17/2007 10:18:57 PM

oh and I'd just like to say that is the worst parking setup and planning i have ever experienced

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11/17/2007 10:20:34 PM

Just got back, here's the deal.

Wake was the better team on the field. Wake with a healthy Riley Skinner should beat this year's Pack team. Not to mention the fact that Wake was coming off an embarrassing loss and wanted to win their final home game of the season, while the Wolfpack were on the road and were coming off an emotional win at home against a rival. It was a tough draw, and I'm not surprised we lost.

That being said, we still could have won this game. IMO this is why we lost:

1) No rushing game - Wake's D-line controlled the line of scrimmage throughout the game. Without a rushing game Evans was called on to throw 56 passes. Never a good sign. Evans is NOT a QB who can carry the team on his back. Evans has never had a good game without some semblance of a rushing attack to keep the defense honest. Instead he was repeatedly running for his life and getting knocked to the turf.

2) Penalties - 10 of them for 90 yards to be exact. Dunno what the issue was on offense, but we had way too many freakin' false starts. Too many drives were killed by penalties tonight, which we couldn't afford given the struggles on offense.

3) Turnovers - 3 INTs in 56 passing attempts sounds about right. Evans was forcing to many throws. He got away with several that should have been picked off. Bottom line, we lost the turnover battle for the first time in 5 weeks, so we lost for the 1st time in 5 weeks. End of story.


On the plus side, the defense played great in the 2nd half. One bad play gave Wake it's only offensive TD in the final 30 minutes. A turnover set Wake up for an easy FG despite going 3-and-out. An INT was returned for a TD. Despite their struggles in the 1st half, the D was the main reason we had a shot at winning this game.

I'm routinely depressed to see this useless bickering about Evans and whether he sucks. Face facts guys - his job is to get the ball to our playmakers. Hand it off to Baker Brown Eugene, throw it to Stone in the middle, loft it up for grabs so our big receivers can make a play. Evans is not a playmaker. He makes good decisions when given time to throw and a decent rushing attack to setup the pass. He had neither tonight, so he struggled. It's really not any more complicated than that.

Evans does deserve to be criticized for his mistakes, which were plentiful. A lot of mistimed passes, too many false-starts, and no real talent for playmaking when a play breaks down. He doesn't have a cannon of an arm to force tough passes. He doesn't have the speed to scramble for a 1st down. Evans cannot and will not ever carry the burden for the offense. He will always throw 2-3 INTs when asked to throw the ball 40+ times...

...and none of this changes the fact that he's our best option under center and we're just going to have to deal with it until someone better comes along. Evans did not lose to Wake Forest. The Wolfpack lost to Wake Forest. And Evans, like the rest of the team, played his guts out and did his best. Yeah he didn't play well. Bitch about it if you need to get it off your chest. But at some point let's stop pretending that (1) we can lay this loss at Evans' feet, and (2) there's anything we can do about it until the next recruiting class comes in.

[Edited on November 17, 2007 at 10:33 PM. Reason : speeling]]

11/17/2007 10:24:05 PM

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"i froze my ass off out there for 4 hours and for what? fuck the pack"

It was not that cold at all and if you were freezing then it's your own damn fault for not checking the weather and dressing appropriately, I was there too and with some under armour, tshirt, jacket, and toboggan it was comfortable out there.

Watching that game reminded me way too much of what I saw there two years ago when Jay Davis threw more touchdown passes to WF than to NCSU. But I suppose the only good part of the game was coming out of the half fired up and pulling to within three, before subsequently shooting ourselves in the foot and getting gayed over a lot.

And also just like two years ago, we've come down to the wire for bowl eligibility, and once again will be duking it out with Maryland at home in late November to decide if we are even eligible for the postseason.

I very much despise that stadium, but the pizza was pretty good.

11/17/2007 10:28:25 PM

tru^^

I guess Burke must have really been a huge bust... he never saw any real gametime...

Its not like DE had any time in the pocket all game. That was the difference in our past 4 games (except for Miami)[i]

[Edited on November 17, 2007 at 10:29 PM. Reason : sp]

11/17/2007 10:28:37 PM

from just a sports fan point of view, wake forest has to have the worst fans of all time, 0 cheering at all, unless is was a big 3rd down they would all stand up. they had one cheer...wakeeee...forestt, and they were just plain gay.

11/17/2007 11:00:12 PM

how about that halftime show? hahaha what the fuck was with the singing? and their marching band is smaller than my high school's

pathetic

on the upside, they were selling chic fil a sandwiches + chips and a cup of water for $4.50...not bad

[Edited on November 17, 2007 at 11:03 PM. Reason : ]

11/17/2007 11:02:23 PM

and they need music to make it get anywhere close to noise in there

how do they get away with that

11/17/2007 11:04:29 PM

there was a great State fan turnout at the game, i was impressed.


penalties, penalties, penalties.....

11/17/2007 11:08:54 PM

yep i hate that stadium, shitty band, shitty fans that barely participate or cheer at all, they don't deserve a football team at all

I swear the loudest they ever got was quieter than C-F with nothing special happening

11/17/2007 11:13:26 PM

the only thing i liked about the fans was the noise and how fast they picked up the wake.. forest.. cheer


why is that so hard for us?

11/17/2007 11:14:31 PM

cause our alumni are lazy

11/17/2007 11:15:39 PM

yeah two syllable words don't work so well with those kind of cheers, sounded like

WAYYYYYYYYYYYY

FORAAAAAAAAAAAAA

WAYYYYYYYYYYYY

FORAAAAAAAAAAAAASSS

11/17/2007 11:16:47 PM

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"cause our alumni are lazy"

SOOOO lazy


those WFU fans were the laziest and quietest i've ever seen.

i sat in the student section and all they did was just talk about random preppie shit.

horrible stadium.

11/17/2007 11:18:59 PM

we changed it to "WEAK" in one chant, then later tried "WHITE" but that apparently wasn't so funny with the people around us...

11/17/2007 11:19:26 PM

some old timer NCSU alumn told me to remember that i represent my school while i was yellin "OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH" on defense.


WTF is up with that shit?

11/17/2007 11:22:27 PM

well you know yelling is profane and the work of satan

he's probably just like all of the other geriatrics in that stadium that couldn't make noise to save their lives

11/17/2007 11:34:39 PM

when we don't run the ball, we will fucking lose. and don't give me this shit about "we were behind, we had to pass" or "wake's d line was too good".

we only ran eugene 18 fucking times all night. i don't know what league we think we're in, but when you throw 3 times as much as you run, unless you play for hawaii or texas tech, you're gonna lose.

i was screaming at the fucking tv the whole second half because we wouldn't run the ball. daniel evans is not a good QB, he's a starter by default, because we don't have another option. he's not awful, but he's not good, either. i blame the coaching staff, because they kept calling pass plays over and over. i mean, 7 rushes in the first half? what kind of shit is that?

11/17/2007 11:35:23 PM

YOU CANT RUN THE FUCKING BALL WHEN YOU'RE LOSING ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU'RE GETTING 2 YARDS PER RUSH IN THE FIRST PLACE.

11/17/2007 11:52:33 PM

that's horse shit. we ran it three times in the first quarter. THREE FUCKING TIMES. half of the rushes in the second quarter went for first downs. you have to at least try and run, especially when you clearly can't pass for shit.

we started trailing heavy at 21-3, and before then there is no excuse for not trying to run more. how can you establish ANY sort of run game if you don't even try? you don't find it strange that wake rushed the ball more times in their first drive than we did in a whole half?

TOB made a decision early on not to run the ball with any dedication.

11/18/2007 12:13:19 AM

^^you do realize both teams start the game with zero points right? both teams.

and still we had abandoned the run game before the game even got underway. before we were down.

11/18/2007 12:18:46 AM

I suppose you would still bitch about the lack of running if we hang onto those balls that should have been caught all game too? Because that was more frustrating that the play calling to me. I mean shit, we execute everything and had guys open 10 times where they tried to catch it with their vaginas. Fuck that.


^I guess going 3/out means we abandones the running game from the get go. How about Blackman's dropped pass on the first drive?

[Edited on November 18, 2007 at 12:20 AM. Reason : ]

11/18/2007 12:18:57 AM

evans terrible passes far outweigh the few dropped passes.

but yeah sucky game overall by pretty much everyone. it's a shame we didn't get to see if eugene would have had a sucky one or not.

11/18/2007 12:36:43 AM