Real Madrid gets free credit from Madrid banks


basically they write it off after a season or two


it's utter bullshit

6/9/2009 12:45:27 AM

gotta love it..."hey, we have Huntelaar, Higuain, Saviola, Kaka, Gago, Robben, etc....let's but ronaldo, david villa, and ibrahimovic!!1"

6/9/2009 11:48:49 AM

pato to chelski?

sorry amac, looks like ac milan will be in severe rebuilding mode next year...

6/9/2009 2:48:51 PM

FIFA XI TO REAL MADRID

6/9/2009 2:52:09 PM

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"pato to chelski?"

not buying it...he just wants to "talk"

6/9/2009 3:01:46 PM

Real Madrid = future lesser-funded Lovell EXPOSED?!?

6/9/2009 3:22:07 PM

Anyone got £100? Send Mike Ashley an email and Newcastle United could be yours.

http://www.theoffside.com/world-football/newcastle-goes-up-for-sale-continues-to-torment-supporters.html

6/9/2009 3:38:47 PM

no one is going to want to pay that much to buy a team in the coca cola championship, lol

6/9/2009 3:58:00 PM

david villa to madrid for 37 mil euros? looking likely as valencia need the money and madrid are willing to support any team in europe now...


and as for madrid and how they get their money, i found this:

"Real Madrid get their money from an annual TV rights deal worth £153m annually. Barcelona has the same income stream. Which explains how the two Spanish clubs can afford to buy players at ridiculous amount of money.

English club negotiate TV rights as a group and the revenue is shared amongst the 20 teams. Man U got £42m, Chelsea £41m, Liverpool £40, and Arsenal £39m last season."


sickening...just tv rights alone are gonna pay the way for a new galacticos team

[Edited on June 9, 2009 at 6:25 PM. Reason : AC Madrid, Real Valencia]

6/9/2009 6:25:08 PM

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"fishsticksoffury: lesser funded real madrid to sponsor 7 teams in europe Sent at 5:34 PM on Tuesday fishsticksoffury: AC Madrid, Real Valencia, ArsenREAL, Bayern Madrid, Inter Madrid, and Paris Saint Madrid the glorified 7 teams announced that they will share funds ranging from 180-300 million euros along with this funding, the 7 teams must lose to real madrid if they face each other in the champions league and/or la liga Sent at 5:37 PM on Tuesday fishsticksoffury: and Edgar Davids will have a new barber shop next to the gift shop inside the Bernebau Sent at 5:38 PM on Tuesday fishsticksoffury's new status message - lesser funded 5:44 PM "

lollllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll...edgar davids optometry to be his next venture

6/9/2009 7:21:54 PM

hahaha i was gonna keep going but i figured i might overdo it...

6/9/2009 9:10:35 PM

what about GalatasaREAL?




and don't forget uREALwa Red Diamonds






anyway it looks like Setanta sports is teetering on the edge of going into administration - they owe the SPL 3 million pounds, and the EPL 30 million. If they go under, they're estimated to take a third of the SPL with them. Some of those clubs get up to 30% of their revenue from the setanta payouts.

It's being speculated that ESPN may pick up their rights to the 40 some odd EPL games they're supposed to show next season, or even buy Setanta out completely, but no bids or even word from the ESPN camp as of yet.

6/10/2009 9:01:45 AM

but what about real atletico madrid and real real betis...i think the team that will most benefit from this, however, is real salt lake madrid

6/10/2009 11:35:53 AM

Really Real Betis

6/10/2009 12:46:24 PM

6/10/2009 4:42:19 PM

there is so much wrong with that pic it is hard to know where to start

6/10/2009 5:36:31 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyd91S73XDQ


well im not sure what ronaldo is wearing...but its not as bad as this...not sure how i missed any of this after the game.

6/10/2009 7:21:41 PM

^ I dunno, the stuff in that Chelsea video happens on high school sports teams all the time... I just figured people matured when they became professionals so it's a little surprising

6/10/2009 8:27:19 PM

i dont remember any of this happening on my high school team....

6/10/2009 9:52:13 PM

I'm not a proponent of touching other guys' crotches or anything, but America IS pretty damned homophobic and prudish compared to most of the rest of the world

6/11/2009 12:45:50 AM

so the rest of the world touching each others penises in public is ok but when i show a clip of it its homophobic?

6/11/2009 12:51:20 AM

The gelled tumbler to Real for 80m pounds

[Edited on June 11, 2009 at 7:26 AM. Reason : ]

6/11/2009 7:25:16 AM

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=654097&sec=transfers&&cc=5901

6/11/2009 8:38:51 AM

FUCKKKKK


what a huge mistake.



But like I said, Madrid gets free money from banks, so it was inevitable.




Jesus, with Kaka and CR7 on that team, Madrid MAY just be unstoppable.

From BBC's 606 -

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""For another £20m we could buy Newcastle." Dannyxtra"

AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA

[Edited on June 11, 2009 at 8:45 AM. Reason : .]

[Edited on June 11, 2009 at 8:54 AM. Reason : .]

6/11/2009 8:44:13 AM

wow, surprised they actually offloaded ronaldo...oh well, add man utd to that list that real madrid have decided to fund. Madridchester United, lol...should have enough to buy ribery, keep tevez, and prob buy one other player(if needed) with this money and the other fringe players sold

6/11/2009 9:50:57 AM

ahahhahaha fuck the hell off Ronnie

on the other hand, I might not have as much reason to hate United if that jackass is gone



[Edited on June 11, 2009 at 10:02 AM. Reason : SEE YA]

6/11/2009 10:00:44 AM

This exit seems to be pretty anti-climactic.



I wonder if SAF fought it, or if he said "ah, fuck it, for 80 million I can buy Benzema AND Ribery"



EPIC

FRENCH

REVOLUTION?

6/11/2009 11:33:12 AM

probably the latter

Benzema/Ribery would definitely be my picks (although I think it'll be for closer to 100 than 80). Tevez is not worth the price they're asking (actually nobody's worth the asking price in today's transfer market). I wonder if SAF will just go with the two obvious choices or if he'd rather take a chance on somebody like Ashley Young (way overpriced) or Robben (who they could get extremely cheap)


Even if they do get Benzema/Ribery, there will be a slight drop-off for United... not out of Top 4 or anything but the race should get extremely closer next year. Unless United just trade Ronaldo to Madrid for Kaka and cash...

[Edited on June 11, 2009 at 11:38 AM. Reason : $$$]

6/11/2009 11:36:38 AM

I wonder how much of the 80 mil will go towards their massive debt.

Or will they keep racking it up like our gov't does?



Well, one less reason for me to hate Man U.

6/11/2009 11:53:45 AM

screw that, they need a metal body for Sir Alex's brain.

6/11/2009 11:53:55 AM

2009-10

6/11/2009 11:56:49 AM

i cant see united paying an extreme amount for ribery though...madrid and man city are gonna do their best to F the transfer market up this year and for the future...and as for a drop off...you guys act like ribery is a chump compared to ronaldo, lol.

i really think united are gonna try and see if they can somehow sign tevez in a similar fashion to a bosman(for free). if they keep tevez they really have no need for benzema. but united need to fill in for ronaldos absence and they will have a lot in the transfer funds...i think they bought ronaldo for 9-12 mil range and sold him for 80...thats a pretty good profit. if the da silva twins keep working their way up to starts, i wouldnt be surprised to see one of them fill in some on the wing.

i dont want robben on this team...hes injury proned. ribery is about the only winger i see out there fit for a replacement.




jeez...im still trying to wrap my head around how much this is....$130,000,000 just to buy the player and you still have to pay him his wages...





"It is now certain that a second era of galacticos has begun at Madird, with news of Ronaldo's £80m deal coming in the same week that Perez agreed a £59m deal ($97m or €69m) to sign Kaka. Which means in less than a week, Madrid have committed to spending an incredible £139m ($228m or €162.9m) on just two players."

[Edited on June 11, 2009 at 12:17 PM. Reason : fuckng madrid..]

6/11/2009 12:12:51 PM

He's far from a chump but you can't exactly do a straight swap with Ronaldo and expect everything to be perfectly fine


They need to add somebody that will score 20+ along with Ribery to match what Ronaldo's been giving them the last few seasons

6/11/2009 12:24:48 PM

For some reason I foresee some kind of economic collapse of Real Madrid. This money doesn't seem legit. I think someone's cooking the books.

6/11/2009 12:26:37 PM

if man utd can't get ribery, they should go for ashley young or david silva. I don't think they really need another striker, unless they lose tevez. Even then, they still have macheda and welbeck, who showed they can play.

6/11/2009 12:29:52 PM

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"For some reason I foresee some kind of economic collapse of Real Madrid. This money doesn't seem legit. I think someone's cooking the books."

I already explained why. The banks in Madrid give Real free credit. Don't ask me how, I don't understand how it's economically feasible, especially in today's market, but it's been going on for years. Banks give them money, and then write off the loan years later. There won't be a financial collapse.

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"if man utd can't get ribery, they should go for ashley young or david silva. I don't think they really need another striker, unless they lose tevez. Even then, they still have macheda and welbeck, who showed they can play."

I think they will go for broke to get Ribery. But Ribery alone won't replace Ronaldo's goals. David Silva wouldn't be a bad buy, but I don't think he'd be the BEST buy for the money. Chelski have had a bid for him turned down today already.

I think Tevez is gone - and I hate to say it, but it may be for the best.

Ronaldo, Tevez, and Rooney were far and away the reason why United did the double last season, because of the way they piled on goals, but Ronaldo was the focus, and Tevez and Rooney reaped the benefit of playing with him.

I think we are about to see a changing of the guard in the way that United attacks. Rooney will move back into the middle, and depending on who comes in, expect to see less and less of the "old" United way of sheer, abject speed on attack.

6/11/2009 3:24:27 PM

wasn't chelsea's bid for david villa? i could be wrong

6/11/2009 4:55:54 PM

my bad, you're right.


I always get the two confused.

6/11/2009 5:25:40 PM

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"so the rest of the world touching each others penises in public is ok but when i show a clip of it its homophobic?"

no, that's not what I meant at all

I'm just saying that these cats probably don't see it as "gay" in the same way that an American might

oh hey, Ronaldo's gone! yaaaayyyyyyyy!

[Edited on June 11, 2009 at 6:06 PM. Reason : yaaaayyyyyyyy!]

6/11/2009 6:01:47 PM

I'm pretty sure that the english see it almost exactly the way we do.

6/11/2009 6:21:19 PM

perhaps so, but neither Didier Drogba nor Jon Obi Mikel is an Englishman

but this is silly

6/11/2009 9:16:48 PM

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"They need to add somebody that will score 20+ along with Ribery to match what Ronaldo's been giving them the last few seasons"

i have a feeling rooney is going to increase his goals next year (god forbid another foot fracture....) when hes moved back into the middle. i never understood why ronaldo was getting more and more put up front and rooney out to the side. i think ronaldo did better when he came from out wide and attacked inward. towars the last 1/3 of the season fergie started using ronlawldo more up top. i wonder if he was just trying to use him for his goal scoring prowess or was tired of ronlawldo not tracking back on defense to help out the wing-backs...

anyway berbatov and rooney in the middle could be mucho dangerous.

6/11/2009 11:37:43 PM

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"i never understood why ronaldo was getting more and more put up front and rooney out to the side."

I always figured it had a lot to do with the fact that he is so damned good in the air...in that respect he is sort of wasted out wide. probably the same reason he never took the corners...

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"berbatov and rooney in the middle could be mucho dangerous."

that'd be really interesting: they're both very creative, unselfish sorts of strikers...it could be dynamite or maybe not, but interesting for damn sure

6/11/2009 11:47:08 PM

First of all, the facts are that Real Madrid is one of the world's most supported clubs. They have one of the best TV deals, they span many markets, and they get tax incentives being a "non-profit" club rather than categorized as a business.

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"I already explained why. The banks in Madrid give Real free credit. Don't ask me how, I don't understand how it's economically feasible, especially in today's market, but it's been going on for years. Banks give them money, and then write off the loan years later. There won't be a financial collapse."

And that exactly is my point. We can both admit that there are probably more economics-savvy people involved with the details, but who's to say that there's no massive speculation on return involved. You know, part of the reason we're in our current economic state over here. All I'm saying is that money doesn't grow on trees.

From http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/european_football/article6426983.ece

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"Whatever debt they hold (and detail here is murky) is with local banks, many of whom are under political and social pressure not to tighten the screws. Real are too big and too important to fail or to come under the kind of debt pressures that affect traditional clubs. The club's social, political and economic significance dwarfs that of any other club in the world, with the possible exception of Barcelona. In that sense, they play by a different set of rules. "

Looks like a case of politics having a strangle hold on something that should be based more on simple economics. I would not be surprise if this whole charade falls through at some point. Now it won't show on the face of the club immediately, it will show in the pockets of the financiers. Definitely not this year, probably not next year, but at some point Madrid (the city and all banks involved) might realize that they're shooting themselves in the foot.

Of course this is only speculation on my part, I'm just saying I wouldn't be surprised.

6/12/2009 12:54:55 AM

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"It has been pointed out that losing Ronaldo means Utd need to replace him twice. However, combined with the midfield embarassement dealt out by Barca I think the problems run much deeper than a new winger and striker. Without Ronaldo, Utd's midfield looks completely different as well as the attack. Would one of the top four clubs in England desperately want ANY of Utd's current midfielders - either attacking or defensive? Carrick is probably the most likely and despite having talent he panics in the biggest games. Where is the pace? Where is the defensive shield? Most crucially where are the goals? Giggs and Scholes can offer fleeting contributions against the lesser teams but are semi-retired. Nani is infuriating and yet to show any consistency. Park is a grafter. Tosic clearly isn't trusted as he has barely featured. Fletch is improving but questions remain. Hargreaves is broken and out of warranty. I thought Anderson would be the Scholes replacement but he has yet to score in two years. It was Ronaldo alone who hid the paucity of goals from the midfield and this really needs addressed as any other winger will not contribute half the goals. Unbelievably for a team that nearly won the lot, they could actually really do with: One new striker that does not want to play a withdrawn role Two new wingers One new goalscoring CM One new defensive CM - not liable to break for most of the season Potential problem positions such as GK and RB really seem trivial compared to the havoc this departure will create. This is much more than an £80M problem and Tevez is not the answer to any of these problems."

Thoughts from United fans? Or do you think Nani/Carrick/Anderson are good enough?

6/12/2009 10:11:15 AM

United's midfield is fine.


Tosic will move up to the first team squad. Hargreaves will be back, and will be fine.


We've still got Possebon, Fletcher, and Gibson, all of whom are fringe but good enough to hold their own when they do play.

6/12/2009 10:35:50 AM

o
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"The 24-year-old is expected to sign a six-year contract at the Bernabeu, which means by the final year he would be on £29m-a-year - or £557,000-a-week - which is reportedly 33 times what the average Spaniard earns. And this is in a country which is suffering from high unemployment of over 18%."

6/12/2009 10:41:58 AM

holy shit.



that is unREAL.

[Edited on June 12, 2009 at 10:55 AM. Reason : yswidt]

6/12/2009 10:52:24 AM

lol

6/12/2009 12:52:32 PM

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"Cruz Sol spoke to the Spanish media after the meeting, with Valencian newspaper Levante quoting him as saying: ''Chelsea made an important offer for him (Villa). But the answer (from Valencia) was 'no' because negotiations with Real Madrid are very advanced. ''Hence, there's no possibility that Villa will go to Chelsea because he wants to go to Real Madrid. The purpose of the meeting was to have have some contact and know with certainty what Villa's situation is. "

6/12/2009 2:15:57 PM