Tennessee football?? They've been irrelevant for years now. What a sad joke.

12/15/2009 6:57:40 PM

you have to at least try

12/15/2009 7:30:55 PM

Got Matt Simms today... may be losing Willis though.

12/16/2009 1:29:48 PM

i wonder if sex was involved in his recruiting process

12/16/2009 1:47:35 PM

that's mighty random of you

12/16/2009 5:06:54 PM

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"Tennessee is back in the picture for two prospects from Dwyer High School in West Palm Beach, Fla. Wide receiver Robert Clark and athlete Matt Elam are reconsidering their commitments to Florida because of Sunday’s news that Urban Meyer plans to take an indefinite leave of absence as the Gators’ head coach. Clark and Elam were both planning to enroll at Florida in January. Instead, Clark said the two players will likely stay at Dwyer for another semester to allow more time to make a decision. The 5-foot-10, 175-pound Clark, who maintained he’s still committed to Florida, said he plans to visit UT next month. Clark said he heard this weekend from UT coach Lane Kiffin. “They have a great staff,” Clark said of the Vols. “(Kiffin) talked to me about their need at wide receiver.” Clark could fill UT’s need for a playmaker at receiver, according to Dwyer coach Jack Daniels. “Any time Robert touches the ball he’s got a chance to score,” Daniels said. The 6-foot, 205-pound Elam is one of the top prospects in the state of Florida. He took an official visit to UT in October before reaffirming his commitment to Florida. Daniels spent time with Elam on Sunday and said along with Florida he’s considering UT, Georgia, Florida State and Miami. Daniels said Elam has become “sick” of the recruiting process. “He didn’t want to talk to anybody,” Daniels said of Elam. “I think he knows something’s wrong up in Gainesville and the process is starting all over again.” Dwyer tight end Gerald Christian, who’s also committed to Florida, spoke with Elam on Sunday. Christian said Elam was “mad” about the uncertainty regarding Meyer. “Through all these years he always wanted to be coached by Urban Meyer,” Christian said."

12/27/2009 9:14:11 PM

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"COACH JACK DANIELS"

12/27/2009 10:04:14 PM

hhahaha

12/27/2009 10:10:08 PM

hahahha, love the comments, people HATE Kiffin so much

http://bbs.buccaneers.com/showthread.php?t=183783

12/28/2009 12:15:15 AM

so how do you feel about being the one of like 2 regular contributors in this thread and sometimes triple and quadruple posting?

i am debating on whether or not to start a villanova football thread

12/28/2009 12:19:17 AM

its more for informational purposes, a UT clearinghouse, not for ongoing discussions... its rare someone has something that I didnt already know so of course most of the posts will be by me

12/28/2009 12:25:59 AM

It's true. Most of my Tennessee football news comes from WBIR.com, UTsports.com, Tennessee Scout page and Jaybee.

12/28/2009 12:35:07 AM

ESPN Chick-fil-a Bowl Simulation Results...

UT - 28
VT - 17

YAY!

http://sports.espn.go.com/videogames/gallery?id=4762263&photoId=4770764&photoCount=5

Also, rumors of hiring a bad ass RB/ST coach from the Tampa Bay bucs, Rich Bisaccia. If this is true, UT's coaching staff is the best in the country.

http://www.3sib.com/2009/12/27/espn-reporting-bisaccia-will-round-out-vols-staff/

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4773962

[Edited on December 28, 2009 at 11:46 AM. Reason : Coach]

12/28/2009 11:30:39 AM

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"UT's coaching staff is the best in the country"

LOL. Based on what criteria? Wins? National titles? Or hype?

How does this much UT delusion keep getting posted on a NCSU message board? You would expect this type of BS out of state fans on a state board. But UT? Really? It must be too much for even the UT boards to put up with so they come on here.

[Edited on December 28, 2009 at 12:04 PM. Reason : ^]

12/28/2009 12:00:29 PM

And here comes the...

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"This is a NC State Message Board"

comment. Not really a strong argument. Try bringing something a little stronger next time.

[Edited on December 28, 2009 at 12:19 PM. Reason : vd]

12/28/2009 12:19:10 PM

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"LOL. Based on what criteria? Wins? National titles? Or hype?"

based on knowing something about college football, hell the improvement of Crompton alone is enough, he went from fucking god awful to a top 10-15 QB in the country... how can you do it based on wins or national titles as any team that is successful will lose coaches like crazy... very rare you have the same exact set of coaches for more than year or two unless they suck (but not bad enough to get fired)

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"When Lane Kiffin was hired last January, he made waves nationally by assembling the highest paid team of assistants in college football, including his father Monte Kiffin (1.2m annually). However, lost to the public’s eye were the blows he dealt SEC rivals Auburn, Alabama, and South Carolina by stealing away their top recruiters, respectively Eddie Gran, Lance Thompson, and David Reaves. Kiffin’s willingness to sacrifice his own personal salary (his 2 million annual deal is a bargain compared to the SEC’s elite who are earning upwards of 4 million per year) coupled with the influx of revenue from the SEC’s new television deal with ESPN meant that Kiffin had a huge budget to bring in assistants. While this war chest was able to bring in the best that money could buy, Kiffin and UT have found out this offseason that money can’t buy loyalty. Credit Kiffin for realizing the importance of a great staff, and utilizing resources to bring in the best money can buy. As other programs saw the success he had, however, they have become much more willing to pony up to bring in the talent. Kiffin’s coaching rolodex is deep, and he’s already rumored to be reaching out to UGA’s Rodney Garner (another tremendous recruiter) to fill one of the staff vacancies. For the sake of Tennessee football, however, Kiffin needs to realize the importance of coaching stability. Around the country coaching staffs that remain successful over time are the ones with the fewest turnover. If you don’t believe me look at USC this year, the recruiting classes the past few years have been as loaded as ever, and Carroll remains the head coach, but losing Kiffin, Orgeron, and Sarkisian has been detrimental to his program’s success. "

[Edited on December 28, 2009 at 12:52 PM. Reason : d]

12/28/2009 12:45:14 PM

So it is based on hype. Thanks for answering my question.

12/28/2009 1:02:12 PM

the opinion of people who know what they are talking about isnt automatically equal to hype.

the results are the team being drastically better, having a top 10 recruiting class last year with basically 2 months to get it, and having a top 5 class this year, maybe top 3, shows that its not hype.

Outplaying the probable national championship team who is flat out LOADED (and with a great coaching staff of their own) was all coaching, great job. Every aspect of the team was better, Crompton became a good player, Hardesty had a great year behind a shitty O-line (talent wise, once again, great coaching).

if you actually watched the games and knew what you were talking about instead of just trolling based on the W/L record that you looked up you might not sound so ignorant

[Edited on December 28, 2009 at 1:09 PM. Reason : d]

12/28/2009 1:08:17 PM

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"LOL. Based on what criteria? Wins? National titles? Or hype?"

Uhhh serious response? Really showing how ignorant you are just by trying to troll Jaybee here.

Monte Kiffin? Probably the best defensive coach football has seen, that's a start....

12/28/2009 1:12:01 PM

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"rumors of hiring a bad ass RB/ST coach from the Tampa Bay bucs, Rich Bisaccia. If this is true, UT's coaching staff is the best in the country."

How come Tampa's run game (aside from last week) and special teams suck ass?

12/28/2009 1:14:52 PM

yeah, he is just one of the constant trollers, will continue to troll anything he doesnt happen to like no matter what, its retarded

^ their ST is the only thing good on that team. Read a lot about Bisaccia, he is the only coach that people really wanted to keep around

[Edited on December 28, 2009 at 1:16 PM. Reason : d]

12/28/2009 1:15:02 PM

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""UT's coaching staff is the best in the country""

That was the quote. And to back that up you give us:
1) Knoxville media says so
2) a couple of top 10 recruiting classes
3) losing to Alabama

And I'm being ignorant? Maybe you should quit being such a homer.

12/28/2009 1:15:55 PM

"knoxville media" isnt the one saying it, no one has quoted anything from the vast "Knoxville media"


not being a homer at all

and its only "a couple" of recruiting classes, because guess what?!?! they have only been there two seasons!

and how can you NOT use outplaying the best team they have played in their tenure on the road as a barometer of good coaching?

not to mention the Florida game where they were 28+ point underdogs (and I correctly predicted that the dumb shits on here would begin to dismiss that game as we got further and further away from it even though they were the ones claiming Florida would win by 40)

[Edited on December 28, 2009 at 1:22 PM. Reason : d]

12/28/2009 1:17:15 PM

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"they have only been there two seasons!"

Which is why its ridiculous to call them the best coaching staff in the nation. Unless you're basing it on hype (which you are). And you're being a homer (which you are).

Sorry for being a results oriented guy. Win a couple national titles, then we'll talk.

12/28/2009 1:21:42 PM

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"After some highly critical years in Tampa Bay, Bisaccia had his unit record the first kick return for a touchdown in franchise history on Dec. 16, 2007"

Well it only took him 6 years to have a kick return TD

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"and how can you NOT use outplaying the best team they have played in their tenure on the road as a barometer of good coaching? not to mention the Florida game where they were 28+ point underdogs (and I correctly predicted that the dumb shits on here would begin to dismiss that game as we got further and further away from it even though they were the ones claiming Florida would win by 40)"

sounds like the same logic that got Charlie Weis a 10 year extension for almost beating USC

[Edited on December 28, 2009 at 1:23 PM. Reason : .]

12/28/2009 1:21:56 PM

^^ so, if somehow you hired Bill Gates and Steve Jobs to head up your new computer company they would just be "hype" instead of people with a proven track record of being successful?

if someone is good at what they do, and have been good in the past, and then they go somewhere new, thats not "hype"

^ and if he could have kept that level of performance up then it would be justified... its not like Kiffin did it and then sucked for 3 years, in the limited time he has had he's done a good job

and

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/179720-the-schottey-six-top-nfl-special-teams-for-2009#page/7

#2 (and no, this wasnt written by the world traveling "KNOXVILLE MEDIA")



[Edited on December 28, 2009 at 1:30 PM. Reason : d]

12/28/2009 1:24:40 PM

it never ceases to amaze me how just mentioning Tennessee in a sports talk thread brings all the trolls out

12/28/2009 1:27:06 PM

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"ATLANTA -- Multiple University of Tennessee officials would not confirm Sunday afternoon reports that Tampa Bay Buccaneers associate head coach and special teams coordinator Rich Bisaccia had accepted a position with UT. A college or NFL coach since 1983, Bisaccia has spent the past nine seasons with the Bucs. His link to UT surfaced Sunday in an ESPN.com story. Bisaccia has coached Tampa Bay's special teams since 2002, and former Bucs head coach Jon Gruden has called him "as fine a coach as I've ever been around." Bisaccia has been the Bucs' associate head coach since 2008, and he also coached the team's running backs in 2008. Following a four-year playing career as a defensive back at South Dakota's Yankton College and short stint with the USFL's Philadelphia Stars, the New York native began his coaching career at Wayne State in 1983. He had various roles as a South Carolina assistant from 1989-93, and he spent 1994-98 at Clemson and 1999-2001 at Ole Miss before joining the Bucs. Bisaccia has coached special teams every season at the NFL or Southeastern Conference level since 1989. Bisaccia could plausibly handle all the duties vacated with the recent departure of UT running backs and special teams coach Eddie Gran, who is now Florida State's associate head coach. He would also, at least temporarily, return Vols first-year head coach Lane Kiffin to his full allotment of assistants. Kiffin had already spoken with media when the Bisaccia rumors went public Sunday afternoon, and attempts to contact Kiffin weren't immediately successful."

I guess Jon Gruden doesn't know as much about football as some tdubber trolls do.

12/28/2009 1:29:18 PM

yup, its amazing. and then they post these stupid conditions and shit, according to that there is only ONE good team each year and every single other team/coach sucks

12/28/2009 1:29:28 PM

so now everybody who doesn't suck tennessee's dick and admit they have the best coaching staff in the country is a troll

gotcha

12/28/2009 1:30:47 PM

no, you dont have to agree with it, but dumbshit was making it sound ridiculous that they were even mentioned as such


and just because you agree with something doesnt mean you are "sucking their dick"

I cant stand Saban, but I have no problem admitting that he is as good as any coach in the country, I dont just blindly argue against him in order to keep from "sucking his dick"

[Edited on December 28, 2009 at 1:33 PM. Reason : d]

12/28/2009 1:31:53 PM

heres the bottom line...its a pretty bold statement for any school or fan to say they have the best coaching staff in the country...teams like USC, Texas, Florida and Alabama are on the short list...to claim that Tennessee has the best coaching staff in the country after a 7-5 season is not very objective at all

jaybee you do realize that people wouldnt give you as hard of a time about tennessee if you werent the self proclaimed most objective poster in sports talk right?

[Edited on December 28, 2009 at 1:33 PM. Reason : .]

12/28/2009 1:32:51 PM

http://www.utsports.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/tenn-m-footbl-coaches.html

Read the bios and tell me a better qualified staff.

12/28/2009 1:33:24 PM

If Meyer comes back, I don't think Tennessee even has the best coaching staff in their division

12/28/2009 1:35:00 PM

as I said, you cant just go by record... you go by actual improvement of the team. And to see how far they came after Fulmer's last team to outplaying Alabama on the road...

if Saban for some reason left Bama for UAB I PROMISE you he would have a worse record than he did at Bama, that doenst mean he is any less of a coach

12/28/2009 1:35:16 PM

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"outplaying Alabama on the road"

you didnt outplay them for 60 minutes

12/28/2009 1:35:43 PM

if 1 out of 3 kicks go in they would have lost. I will take that any day against the probable National Champion. Did Bama outplay them for more minutes of the game? probably, but you would have to through play by play with a god damn stop watch which is silly... but it came down to 1 of 3 kicks going in which is normally pretty good odds... and hopefully god damn special teams will be fixed now

[Edited on December 28, 2009 at 1:39 PM. Reason : d]

12/28/2009 1:38:31 PM

I am mostly basing my "best" statement on the coachs' qaulifications

12/28/2009 1:39:16 PM

how dare you!!!! they have to win 43 national championships in a row without losing a SINGLE coach to another team befoe you can do that!

[Edited on December 28, 2009 at 1:41 PM. Reason : d]

12/28/2009 1:41:15 PM

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"I guess Jon Gruden doesn't know as much about football as some tdubber trolls do."

Do you really think that a guy who hired a guy to be on his staff would publically run him down? That, in turn, would make Gruden look stupid. Of course he's going to hype his own hire.

I think Tennessee has a really good staff, as do a good share of the schools in the SEC. If I were a Vol fan, I'd be cautiously optimistic, unfortunately they don't award a trophy for recruiting classes, it's what happens on the field that counts.

12/28/2009 1:41:18 PM

^^how bout winning 8 games for starters...man if you could take a step back and see yourself right now...all the shit you call out other people for when discussing other teams...its like you get a free pass when it comes to the vols


[Edited on December 28, 2009 at 1:44 PM. Reason : typo]

12/28/2009 1:42:28 PM

^^ I agree that he wouldnt say "he sucks", but as good as any other coach is a bit stronger than "hes a really good coach", "he'll do a great job" blah blah

^ once again, its based on improvement over the previous season, not just W-L... once Kiffin has been there 3-4 years, has his players etc. then yes, it will come down to that... but for now, its based on improvement from the previous season which was huge.

[Edited on December 28, 2009 at 1:44 PM. Reason : d]

12/28/2009 1:43:13 PM

I didn't say he wasn't a good coach. Or that he hasn't hired good coaches. But that's not the argument asshat.

I will post it again b/c you girls have all got sand in your vaginas.

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""UT's coaching staff is the best in the country""

On paper (hype), yes you could argue that they are a formidable staff. But with no national titles or SEC titles or even BCS bowl wins to back it up that is a ridiculous statement to make. If you can't see that you're a moron and a homer.

12/28/2009 1:46:03 PM

Nick Saban and Pete Carroll both went 6-6 in their first seasons so I guess they sucked until they won a NC. Logic.

12/28/2009 1:47:18 PM

ok... let me use a stupid example to show you how your logic sucks.

Say your coaching staff had:

Saban
Meyer
Lombardi
Landry
Parcells
Mike Archer

and that coaching staff was with a team for ONE year. Going by your logic if they didnt win a national championship immediately in THAT year, then its all hype.

thats stupid

12/28/2009 1:48:29 PM

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"I am mostly basing my "best" statement on the coachs' qaulifications"

12/28/2009 1:49:24 PM

No one said anyone sucked, dipshit.

12/28/2009 1:50:27 PM

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"Nick Saban and Pete Carroll both went 6-6 in their first seasons so I guess they sucked until they won a NC. Logic. "

exactly, they were just hype!!

12/28/2009 1:50:43 PM

They didn't suck. But I wouldn't say they headed up the best coaching staffs in the nation either. That would just be retardedly premature.

12/28/2009 1:52:02 PM

Are we now talking individual coaches or coaching staffs? If you guys are going to argue stupid points, at least be consistent.

12/28/2009 1:52:49 PM