maybe he means 4:10 on the west coast

10/11/2009 9:38:02 PM

4:10 left in the game probably.

that's when i left.

10/11/2009 11:19:26 PM

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"10 minutes after the started? or 4:10 left in the... game? 3rd quarter? 2nd?"

can you really be that stupid?

10/12/2009 2:32:35 AM

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"because our problem is quarterback play."

Didn't say it was. I was pointing out Cutcliffe's credentials. I never said fire TOB or something ridiculous.

I LOVED the TOB hire when it happened. I'm still on his side. Still a lot of football left. If we turn it on this year like the last two years then none of you will say shit. I do think we are headed for MAYBE 6-6.

10/12/2009 3:15:52 AM

yea... which 4 are we gonna win to make a bowl game?

In all seriousness, who wants to take a guess?

@BC
@FSU
Maryland
Clemson
@VT
UNC

10/12/2009 8:20:09 AM

I don't see us winning any of those. The entire nation knows our weakness. We know our weakness and apparently we can't do anything to fix it.

We might squeak out another win and hand an embarrassing loss to... I don't know who. Maryland, why not.

Maybe one of those teams will start getting cocky and their QB will just turn his back to the defense and start tossing the ball over his shoulder, bridal bouquet style. We might be able to play that team fairly close.

10/12/2009 8:27:43 AM

Just pick the teams with the 4 worst QBs

10/12/2009 8:32:23 AM

Why can't we have the bye before we head up to BC.

I hate losing to those assholes.

10/12/2009 8:47:31 AM

^^^First off, I don't think we make a bowl, but I'll play along.

I think we can beat BC, Maryland, and UNC. Those are three very winnable games.

Then we'll have to steal one of the remaining three. VT isn't happening. FSU might, but I don't like our odds in Doak. So I'd have to say Clemson. Parker will be a good QB, but he's not going to shred us like Skinner/Lewis (two 4-year starters).

10/12/2009 9:41:44 AM

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"Once in a while you'll get lucky and go to the Gator Bowl. Sometimes you get beat by Duke by 21 at home."

Once in a while? Duke hasn't beaten us in 25 years @ C-F. Please enlighten me with how long it's been since they hung 49 on us?

I'll still be rooting for NCSU in every game this season, but other than the UNC game (which I already have a ticket for) I dunno if my money's worth spending on a ticket. Maybe homecoming against MD.

[Edited on October 12, 2009 at 11:01 AM. Reason : correction]

10/12/2009 10:44:24 AM

I've seen this 25 year thing tossed around quite a bit. Someone must have said something slightly incorrect on TV.

11/06/1993 @Duke L 20 21
11/11/1989 @Duke L 26 35
11/12/1988 *Duke T 43 43
11/16 /1985@Duke L 19 31
11/17 /1984 *Duke L 13 16

The last time they beat us in CF was 25 years ago. The last time they beat us was 16 years ago, we didn't even play them for 4 of those years. Still super embarrassing though.

They scored:
43 in 1988
45 in 1987 (and still lost)
42 in 1956 (to our zero)
but to get to that magic at least 49 you have to go all the way back to 1952:
We lost 57 to 0.

It's the 4th time in history they've put up at least 49 on us... and Duke was a lot better than us a loooong time ago. History repeats.

[Edited on October 12, 2009 at 11:02 AM. Reason : -]

10/12/2009 10:59:18 AM

I think everyone was referring to that last time they beat us at carter finley which was in '84. So much for that 11 game winning streak. They still lead the all-time series 40-36

10/12/2009 11:07:18 AM

Did anyone bet the farm on Duke?

10/12/2009 11:10:14 AM

^never in my life would I bet the farm on NCSU. The only thing they're consistently good at is letting you down when you least expect it (and almost always when you DO expect it).

10/12/2009 11:22:53 AM

could be worse

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"Largest Duke Margin of Victory: 75 (75-0) in 1943"

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"N.C. State’s Russell Wilson threw two touchdown passes in the first half and J.C. Neal had a 94-yard kickoff return for a touchdown as the Wolfpack defeated Duke, 27-17, in Durham. The Blue Devils recorded 411 yards of total offense but only scored twice in five trips to the red zone. Lewis led Duke, completing 37-of-52 pass attempts for 317 yards."

so he shredded us 2 years in a row. gg archer

[Edited on October 12, 2009 at 11:25 AM. Reason : ]

10/12/2009 11:23:11 AM

TOB said it was because we didn't play good defense, but i still think u have to give it up to Duke. Some of those passes were open, but alot of those passes were defended about as well as you can defend them and Lews just made great throws but more importantly, i don't recall a Duke WR dropping a pass. We did hit some guys hard etc. but no real drops like we are unfortunately used to seeing. Duke's Offense looks for real. I think Thaddeus was just going thru the motions maybe against Richmond and benching him lit a fire under his butt. The dude was like a surgeon on Saturday.

10/12/2009 11:45:54 AM

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"Some of those passes were open, but alot of those passes were defended about as well as you can defend them and Lews just made great throws but more importantly, i don't recall a Duke WR dropping a pass. We did hit some guys hard etc. but no real drops like we are unfortunately used to seeing."

Pretty much all of this is false. The majority of Thad's passes were to wide open receivers and Duke had to have dropped atleast 5 passes (although they only seemed to drop short passes, never the long ones).

10/12/2009 11:56:27 AM

yea, you're probably right.

I need to go back and watch it again.... no i don't

10/12/2009 12:01:00 PM

^^

Quote :

" "Some of those passes were open, but alot of those passes were defended about as well as you can defend them and Lews just made great throws but more importantly, i don't recall a Duke WR dropping a pass. We did hit some guys hard etc. but no real drops like we are unfortunately used to seeing." "

Your response:

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" Pretty much all of this is false. The majority of Thad's passes were to wide open receivers and Duke had to have dropped atleast 5 passes (although they only seemed to drop short passes, never the long ones). "

I feel like you may be operating under the assumption that Archer believes leaving receivers wide open is bad defense. While this assumption would be valid were it any other defensive coordinator on the face of the planet, I'm starting to believe that Archer marches to the beat of a different drummer. Said drummer plays for the "Let's give a ten-yard cushion to their receivers regardless of down and distance and dare them not to pick up 9 free yards on every pass play" band. The band just signed with the "How in the fuck does he have a job?" record label. They're new album, "Fire Archer Immediately" should be hitting store shelves any day now.



[Edited on October 12, 2009 at 1:47 PM. Reason : I feel your pain guys]

10/12/2009 1:45:06 PM

No, I agree, it feels like Archer's defense relies entirely on the opposing team's offense making stupid mistakes.

10/12/2009 1:57:53 PM

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"TOB said it was because we didn't play good defense, but i still think u have to give it up to Duke. Some of those passes were open, but alot of those passes were defended about as well as you can defend them and Lews just made great throws but more importantly, i don't recall a Duke WR dropping a pass. We did hit some guys hard etc. but no real drops like we are unfortunately used to seeing. Duke's Offense looks for real. I think Thaddeus was just going thru the motions maybe against Richmond and benching him lit a fire under his butt. The dude was like a surgeon on Saturday."

he wasnt really that bad against richmond. i mean, he certainly couldve been better but it would be like blaming RW for losing this or the wake game. Now, the army game he wasnt that great and got bailed out by his backup when he went out with an injury

duke had a couple drops early. it just didnt matter because they converted seemingly every third down

10/12/2009 2:05:06 PM

This game sucked

/season

10/12/2009 2:20:36 PM

Javon Walker's football career over, being placed on medical hardship. that sucks

10/12/2009 2:38:20 PM

for ?

10/12/2009 2:52:36 PM

multiple knee injuries

10/12/2009 2:57:28 PM

I've never been this upset after a loss

I've been sitting at my desk all day just festering in rage

10/12/2009 4:18:15 PM

ViolentMAW <--> "festering in rage"

makes sense.

10/12/2009 5:09:43 PM

a lot of bad stuff happened in this game and esp a lot that we couldn't control to be honest

we are still gonna have a decent season guys.

10/12/2009 5:26:33 PM

didn't want to start a new thread but

Josh Czajkowski is a mentor for one of my students, you all want me to tell him anything

10/14/2009 8:11:56 AM

Kick the ball harder, we want touchbacks

10/14/2009 8:26:22 AM

Ask him how he gets a scholarship and can't kick it past the 8?

10/14/2009 8:34:40 AM

hey he kicked it to the 2 once or twice this year.

10/14/2009 10:38:59 AM

Randy on the TOB show Monday was....dumb.

10/14/2009 10:41:05 AM

man. i honestly was hoping for just 6 or 7 wins this year.

i'll be lucky to see that to be totally honest.

10/14/2009 2:23:22 PM