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5/18/2013 8:45:13 PM

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Europa Report Dramatizes Human Mission To Jupiter's Moon | Video Trailer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFJMAOz_3KM

5/21/2013 12:38:01 PM

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Why do these movies always have to result in the astronauts dying!?

Also, that looks like a Titan or Atlas launch vehicle with a cluster of boosters and an extremely domed payload which heavily implies a cargo vs. crew.

5/21/2013 2:02:54 PM

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http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/msl/news/msl20130520.html



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"The science team expects to use analysis of material from Cumberland to check findings from John Klein. Preliminary findings from analysis of John Klein rock powder by Curiosity's onboard laboratory instruments indicate that the location long ago had environmental conditions favorable for microbial life. The favorable conditions included the key elemental ingredients for life, an energy gradient that could be exploited by microbes, and water that was not harshly acidic or briny. "


Science on Mars is so slow

5/22/2013 9:07:56 AM

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Science on Mars is so slow

5/22/2013 9:18:52 AM

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http://news.yahoo.com/china-space-program-ramping-capabilities-pentagon-says-111713186.html

China: Establish space dominance

5/23/2013 2:33:25 PM

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FH6QPAD-BU

awesome video of nothing but pictures curiosity took, strung together

5/24/2013 3:30:36 PM

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^http://bennyhillifier.com/?id=3FH6QPAD-BU

5/24/2013 3:43:05 PM

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3-d printer headed to the International Space Station next year.

http://www.space.com/20658-3d-printer-international-space-station-2014.html

5/24/2013 5:54:37 PM

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http://io9.com/5893615/absolutely-mindblowing-video-shot-from-the-space-shuttle-during-launch

5/29/2013 9:26:37 AM

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http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1458134548/arkyd-a-space-telescope-for-everyone-0

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"The first publicly accessible space telescope! Take amazing photos of space or have your photo displayed above the Earth."

5/30/2013 4:53:35 PM

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First life form found by Curiosity.

5/30/2013 8:03:41 PM

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http://www.popsci.com/archive-viewer?id=OigDAAAAMBAJ&pg=56&query=mars

nah, beavers were on mars first.

5/30/2013 8:54:59 PM

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That could be a beaver. Well, a Martian beaver.

so could this

5/31/2013 9:11:48 AM

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Quote :
"Radiation Measurements During Trip From Earth to Mars

This graphic shows the level of natural radiation detected by the Radiation Assessment Detector shielded inside NASA's Mars Science Laboratory on the trip from Earth to Mars from December 2011 to July 2012. The spikes in radiation levels occurred in February, March and late May of 2012 because of large solar energetic particle events caused by solar activity. "


Holy moley, this is log scale



But now, isn't this all charged radiation? That can be reduced a lot by shielding. Almost eliminated.

5/31/2013 9:35:40 AM

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more larva found

6/5/2013 10:18:30 AM

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^^ Yes, sending men to mars is essentially a death sentence.

6/5/2013 10:24:30 AM

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Yeah because we'd definitely send people into deep space with full knowledge that they wouldn't be safe from radiation. It's not like there isn't a large research project going on right now to determine the effects of long term space flight on the human body (including radiation) and ways to mitigate it.

6/5/2013 11:03:57 AM

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^^^looks like poop from the mars rat.

^^if you sent humans anywhere into space they would be killed without the proper protection. for longer trips outside of earth's magnetic field, that would include radiation protection.

6/5/2013 11:27:54 AM

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I doubt any effective and feasible cosmic ray protection will be developed for decades to come.

It's more likely they'll just ask for Kamikaze volunteers.

[Edited on June 5, 2013 at 12:00 PM. Reason : .]

6/5/2013 11:55:50 AM

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All the more reason to study adaptations of Martian beavers to the high radiation environment.

6/5/2013 12:00:15 PM

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A cure for cancer may not be found for decades to come.

We might as well quit researching it.

6/5/2013 12:07:15 PM

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There are no human benefits to Mars exploration.

Certainly none commensurate to the effort and cost required.

It's an egotistical endeavor best left for adventurous individuals or private companies seeking advertising.



[Edited on June 5, 2013 at 12:33 PM. Reason : .]

6/5/2013 12:27:21 PM

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^ I disagree I think exploration is highly necessary. There are many benefits that could come from it aside from inflating ego and corporate sponsorships. I also think eventual deep space travel will be required if we are to survive ourselves.

6/5/2013 12:56:33 PM

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I think beneath most space apologists lies an intense dislike for their "lesser" fellow humans and a desire(never to be fulfilled in anything more than a vicarious sense), to escape to some desolate locale, no matter how infeasible or counter-productive such efforts are, in fact, to the survival of the species. In a world where truly noble causes are difficult and complex and subject to budgetary constraints, they cling to an antiquated colonial notion of cowboys planting flags as a source of pride and false accomplishment. The Apollo program, for instance, diverted much-needed money away from solving the horrific problems of the 1960's(massive famine on a scale never before seen) and merely served as a carefully-crafted distraction from the war atrocities and social injustices committed daily at the time.

[Edited on June 5, 2013 at 1:14 PM. Reason : Escapism]

6/5/2013 1:08:30 PM

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The vast majority of research has nothing to do with "exploration", but instead just seeks more knowledge about the laws of the universe or things on Earth.

The rest of your argument seems to rely on some fundamental distinction between space exploration and the rest of government funded research, which is completely unfounded. Astronomers want data from space telescopes, and those are literally the same people who work in NASA's project planning.

Maybe you would then classify astronomers along with the rest of our "space apologists", which is also wrong. Telescopes are likely to give new information about physics, even fundamental particles, just as the LHC is. If you're against the LHC then at that point you're just going against basic research generally.

6/5/2013 2:03:42 PM

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My opposition was to manned spaceflight primarily, but yes, as you mention, research at the LHC comes at a very real human cost that may ultimately never be repaid.

6/5/2013 4:00:03 PM

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Oh yawn.

As long as there's anyone starving to death anywhere, you get to make this stupid fucking argument.

Your computer and the electricity used to transmit your trolling came at a very real human cost that will never be repaid.

Figuring out the standard model of particle physics, on the other hand, may enable us to create technology we can't even begin to dream about.

6/5/2013 4:03:13 PM

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Yawn is my catchphrase. Get your own.

My money's on the chinese anyway. They're an oligarchy; they can afford to waste their people's money for nationalistic purposes.

http://www.spaceflightnow.com/china/shenzhou10/130603rollout/



[Edited on June 5, 2013 at 4:19 PM. Reason : Such a pretty rocket.]

6/5/2013 4:11:16 PM

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Quote :
"From 'Glenelg' to Mount Sharp

This map shows where NASA's Mars rover Curiosity landed in August 2012 at "Bradbury Landing"; the area where the rover worked from November 2012 through May 2013 at and near the "John Klein" target rock in the "Glenelg" area; and the mission's next major destination, the entry point to the base of Mount Sharp.

The precise route has not been determined, but the rover's path will likely be within the swath outlined in red.

All of these features are inside Gale Crater. North is toward the top. The scale bar is 4 kilometers (2.5 miles). The base map is an image acquired by the High Resolution Imaging Science Experiment (HiRISE) camera on NASA's Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter. "


6/5/2013 6:55:18 PM

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http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2013/06/qualification-testing-dream-chasers-hybrid-rocket-motor/

Sierra Nevada Corporation's Dream Chaser is undergoing drop testing and whatnot out at NASA’s Dryden Flight Research Center.



6/8/2013 8:47:06 PM

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My standard answer to those that bitch about research, particularly particle research: you wouldn't have PET scans if we didn't know what a positron was. The positron wasn't discovered until the late 30s, and the concept of a pet scan came roughly 20 years later, and fully developed decades after that. Quite a long development process, but a significant ROI, considering the usefulness in medical diagnostics.

[Edited on June 8, 2013 at 9:25 PM. Reason : ..]

6/8/2013 9:22:09 PM

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http://www.cnn.com/2013/06/11/world/asia/china-space-mission/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

Hong Kong (CNN) -- A Chinese spaceship blasted off Tuesday from a launch center in the Gobi Desert, carrying three astronauts on what is expected to be the Asian giant's longest crewed mission yet.

Propelled by a Long March-2F rocket, the Shenzhou 10 craft is scheduled to dock with the Tiangong-1 space module where the crew will transfer supplies to the space lab, which has been in orbit since September 2011.

China has stepped up the pace of its space program since first sending astronaut Yang Liwei into orbit in 2003. In 2012, it conducted 18 space launches, according to the Pentagon.

6/11/2013 8:27:32 AM

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Countries with the ability to launch people into space:
1. Russia
2. China

6/11/2013 5:12:44 PM

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NCSU grad selected as 1 of 8 new astronauts who will (hopefully) explore deep space!

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"Christina M. Hammock, 34, calls Jacksonville, N.C., home. Hammock holds undergraduate and graduate degrees from North Carolina State University, Raleigh, N.C. She currently is serving as National Oceanographic and Atmospheric Administration Station Chief in American Samoa."




http://www.space.com/21585-nasa-unveils-astronauts-deep-space.html

6/17/2013 1:23:05 PM

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^I used to play Smash Brothers in the BAR with her younger brother all the time back in 2003-2006.

6/17/2013 5:21:39 PM

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it's this one. I was in school at the same time as her but don't know her.

(totally different picture than what I linked to... it's the girl in the orange helmet in the top right of the original picture.)



[Edited on June 17, 2013 at 6:47 PM. Reason : ]

6/17/2013 6:43:19 PM

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What I got to tour today

6/17/2013 7:18:55 PM

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6/26/2013 10:38:36 AM

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OMFG DINOSAUR SCALES

6/26/2013 12:18:37 PM

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The dinosaurs mastered space flight but not fast enough to come up with an asteroid deflection plan!

6/27/2013 10:08:07 AM

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Potential radiation solution:
http://www.cnn.com/2013/06/27/world/europe/star-trek-shield/index.html

6/27/2013 6:14:17 PM

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multiple radiation mitigation techniques will probably be used.

Advanced materials... for example certain types of plastics have been shown to stop cosmic rays more effectively than metal.

Arranging the spacecraft so that consumables (and waste) is stored towards the outside and the crew is stored towards the inside.

Certain drugs will be given to help the body repair damage from cosmic rays

Solar storms produce huge amounts of radiation, and it would be prudent for the astronauts to have a more heavily shielded area of the craft to retreat to during these storms.

Advanced propulsion has the potential to cut travel time and therefore radiation exposure.

Sending astronauts that are somewhat older is also a potential solution to reduce the long term cancer risk... since... well long term isn't as long for them.

6/27/2013 7:56:26 PM

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Russian Launch Failure:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Zl12dXYcUTo

7/2/2013 11:23:32 AM

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cot dayum

7/2/2013 1:35:23 PM

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sir, i have no idea why it failed. it worked perfectly in kerbal space program!

7/2/2013 1:41:40 PM

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HA!

7/2/2013 8:24:13 PM

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RIP

7/3/2013 1:15:15 AM

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kerbal space program actually looks really fantastic. I would try to get it if I played video games.

https://kerbalspaceprogram.com/

I've seen some adorable space programs on youtube.

7/3/2013 9:18:16 AM

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http://www.brentroad.com/message_topic.aspx?topic=633029

7/3/2013 9:23:27 AM

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