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"So, the cops already did what they were asked to do."

no, they also had to arrest the fools who brought the tents and wouldn't remove them.

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"And they could have just as easily cuffed them and removed them without spraying them."

not with the fools linking their arms together and refusing to move. the idiot protestors escalated the situation, the police finished it.

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"It's funny how big, overreaching government isn't a problem for those on the far right as long as it's the police-state crackin' skulls of young liberal hippies."

so now upholding basic accepted laws is "overreaching government"? Would the government be overreaching if it tried to kick me off of your lawn where I pitched a tent with 60 of my buddies? Would it be overreaching if it tried to get me out of the way of your driveway so you could leave to go to work? Would it be overreaching if it tried to get me and 500 of my buddes out of the way so you could walk into your workplace?

11/22/2011 2:42:51 PM

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"not with the fools linking their arms together and refusing to move. the idiot protestors escalated the situation, the police finished it."

Are you aware, in the slightest, how you have categorically dismissed all forms of direct action?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_action

I'm kind of curious, in the burro world, how does one protest the government?

11/22/2011 3:21:26 PM

i'm not saying they can't protest. I am saying that they escalated the situation by being douchebags. You can't protest by putting up a tent on gov't property, though, that's for sure.

keep in mind, though, that what you quoted was my response to someone else saying "the police could have easily cuffed them." No, the police couldn't have done so, and it was specifically due to the protestors' actions. The occupy dumbasses can sit down on the ground and throw a tantrum, but they shouldn't be surprised when the police respond to that, either.

11/22/2011 3:24:49 PM

what "guide to protesting" are you getting your information from?

11/22/2011 3:31:26 PM

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"The occupy dumbasses can sit down on the ground and throw a tantrum"

if you're talking about the UC Davis incident specifically, no one was "throwing a tantrum." it was just a row of people sitting silently with linked arms.

[Edited on November 22, 2011 at 3:52 PM. Reason : ...]

11/22/2011 3:52:06 PM

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"I'm kind of curious, in the burro world, how does one protest the government?"

You protest until the government asks you not to.

11/22/2011 4:00:23 PM

^^ obviously you've never seen a two-year-old flop on the ground and refuse to move.

11/22/2011 4:04:41 PM

i have

they scream and cry till they are red in the face

that didn't happen at UC Davis until the cop started spraying people in the face

Civil Disobedience isn't "throwing a tantrum"

11/22/2011 4:10:38 PM

11/22/2011 4:13:43 PM

that's fine. but Civil Disobedience also doesn't mean you can't be arrested. and the pepper spray was meant as the lowest form of force before resorting to physically removing the dumbasses. it's like you aren't reading the thread at all. let me quote it for you from the previous page:

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"Like I said, the occupy dumbasses know how to manipulate the situation and are doing a damned good job of it. The police were damned if the do, damned if they don't."

also, comparing these dumbasses to the Civil Rights era is downright insulting to the Civil Rights movement

[Edited on November 22, 2011 at 4:23 PM. Reason : ]

11/22/2011 4:22:15 PM

I, too, condescend to large segments of the population who feel disenfranchised.

Also, comparing a sit-in to a temper tantrum is downright insulting to the sit-in-ers (not to mention just being a horrible and not-at-all-accurate analogy).

11/22/2011 4:27:30 PM

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"The police were damned if the do, damned if they don't."

you mean like the offending officer who is presently on paid leave? that doesn't sound very damned to me.

if you want to talk "damned if they do, damned if they don't," how about the protesters having the option to do nothing and allow business as usual in the country to continue, or unite peacefully and have a burning agent sprayed in their face.

bottom line, those protesters did nothing to warrant getting pepper-sprayed.

11/22/2011 4:35:43 PM

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"Also, comparing a sit-in to a temper tantrum is downright insulting to the sit-in-ers (not to mention just being a horrible and not-at-all-accurate analogy)."

too bad I wasn't doing that. THIS situation was not a sit-in, no matter how much these morons want to make it appear otherwise.

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"you mean like the offending officer who is presently on paid leave? that doesn't sound very damned to me."

yeah. losing your job because you were put in a no-win situation. yep. not a damned situation at all.

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"bottom line, those protesters did nothing to warrant getting pepper-sprayed."

except put up tents that they knew they couldn't put up and protest without getting a permit and then refuse to leave and do so in a provocative manner. and you are STILL acting like pepper spray is the worst thing in the world and isn't the lowest bit of force that could have been used, lower than physical contact.

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"if you want to talk "damned if they do, damned if they don't," how about the protesters having the option to do nothing and allow business as usual in the country to continue, or unite peacefully and have a burning agent sprayed in their face."

cry me a river. I guess every single person who has something they don't like in their life is completely screwed and should kill themselves!

[Edited on November 22, 2011 at 4:49 PM. Reason : ]

11/22/2011 4:47:21 PM

What's the pay like as a freak-show contortionist?

11/22/2011 4:57:16 PM

i hear you have to really squeeze it out of your boss

11/22/2011 5:01:13 PM

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"What's the pay like as a freak-show contortionist?"

don't reduce yourself to name calling

that's just allowing someone else's venom to poison you

stay resolute, but don't get sucked in by petty diatribes

11/22/2011 5:05:08 PM

11/23/2011 1:44:01 PM

11/23/2011 1:48:12 PM

Have these been posted yet?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvEo-btCPKE&feature=grec_index

http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=06-LschF82o

11/23/2011 9:45:58 PM

why on earth would any sane OWS supporter post that ^



i mean it's really sad. those people have all the best intentions and desire to do good... they've just been hammered with marxism since childhood.... so you get this type of interview.

i wish them luck finding a job. i also hope they soon see the error of what they are blindly preaching.

11/24/2011 9:07:12 AM

You're pulling back a little; tempering your views to create empathy. This is a crucial element to trolling. You went full tilt earlier and risked becoming a caricature of yourself, and you recognize it. This is good, my pupil. Your studies are progressing nicely.

11/24/2011 9:10:11 AM

i feel bad for the guy in the video, and i feel horrible for the girl.

also, i love you ^

11/24/2011 9:14:09 AM

11/24/2011 10:42:37 PM

Wait for it...

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/11/24/uc_davis_occupy_protester_admits_police_were_provoked_in_pepper_spray_incident.html

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"" Well we were protesting together and the riot cops came at us and we linked arms and sat down peacefully to protest their presence on our campus. And then at one point they were – we had encircled them and they were trying to leave and they were trying to clear a path. And so we sat down, linked arms and said that if they wanted to clear the path they would have to go through us. But we were on the ground, you know, heads down and all I could see was people telling me to cover my head, protect myself and put my head down. And the next thing I know we were pepper-sprayed," the protester told Amy Goodman of "Democracy Now.""

Link has video.

11/26/2011 11:51:55 AM

If I were the cops, I'd take my uniform off (symbolizing I am just an American, too), shake hands with the protesters, and leave.

So what if I lose my job. Freedom is worth more than any paycheck.

11/26/2011 1:20:31 PM

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"if you want to talk "damned if they do, damned if they don't," how about the protesters having the option to do nothing and allow business as usual in the country to continue, or unite peacefully and have a burning agent sprayed in their face"

You know, there are a couple of options better than either of those

11/26/2011 1:42:29 PM

USA:


Europe:



Asia:



South Pacific:



http://www.time.com/time/magazine/europe/0,9263,901111205,00.html

11/26/2011 3:50:47 PM

dp

[Edited on November 26, 2011 at 3:52 PM. Reason : .]

11/26/2011 3:51:43 PM

^^ Is that suppose to mean something?

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/europe/0,9263,901111031,00.html

America: The China Bubble
Rest: Inside the movie Tin Tin!

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/europe/0,9263,901111114,00.html
America: Can you still move up in America
Rest: Why mom liked you best, the science of favoritism

11/26/2011 4:49:08 PM

Is that supposed to mean anything?


You know what it's supposed to mean.

11/26/2011 5:36:51 PM

I wonder if Time magazine isn't a rag of a magazine with horrible writers and no fact checking when it's published in Europe and Asia.

11/26/2011 5:40:27 PM

The TIME magazine covers are proof that there is collusion among numerous sources to prevent even the idea of revolution from being considered as possible within the United States.

Saying that Occupy is a Marxist movement is like saying that Wal-Mart does more harm than good to poor communities. It's taking one thing you don't understand and applying it to something you don't like in order to make it appear to be wrong.

Marx was incredibly accurate in his explanations of class struggle. The bourgeoisie is getting smaller as more and more people are pushed down into the proletariat. Capitalism does have built-in contradictions that will result in its elimination.

And remember, the bourgeoisie themselves were a revolutionary class before they were the ruling class.

[Edited on November 26, 2011 at 9:13 PM. Reason : Let the ruling class tremble at the Occupation!]

11/26/2011 9:12:32 PM

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"The TIME magazine covers are proof that there is collusion among numerous sources to prevent even the idea of revolution from being considered as possible within the United States. "

Yes, let's blame the media, because people are incapable of getting news from any other source except from the US edition of Time magazine. People have no one to blame but themselves if they wish to be uninformed.

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"Saying that Occupy is a Marxist movement is like saying that Wal-Mart does more harm than good to poor communities. It's taking one thing you don't understand and applying it to something you don't like in order to make it appear to be wrong. "

It's not inherently a Marxist movement, however, many of it's supporters are preaching Marxist ideas and want nothing to do with Capitalism anymore.

11/26/2011 9:18:43 PM

[Edited on November 26, 2011 at 10:29 PM. Reason : .]

11/26/2011 10:01:24 PM

the occupy Raleigh group supported small businesses Saturday. They don't hate free markets.

11/26/2011 10:26:26 PM

http://www.wistv.com/story/16111113/man-arrested-for-facebook-comment-threatening-gov-haleys-life

Guy supporting OWS threatens S.C. Governor on FB, gets arrested.

Below was a response he made on Governor Haley's FB page.

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"I hope someone murders you before I do, how’s that for freedom of speech?"

11/27/2011 10:21:18 AM

It's not very free if he's arrested for it.

11/27/2011 10:41:58 AM

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"The bourgeoisie is getting smaller as more and more people are pushed down into the proletariat."

odd, I understood the exact opposite to be happening.

11/27/2011 11:30:05 AM

@loneshark

The only way I think it's true if he's talking about the number of superpower players
bourgeoisie = elite rich

proletariat = regular rich

[Edited on November 27, 2011 at 11:40 AM. Reason : .]

11/27/2011 11:39:48 AM

Threats against a public figure aren't covered under freedom of speech.

11/27/2011 12:44:15 PM

I don’t think threats against ANYONE are covered under freedom of speech.

11/27/2011 1:17:37 PM

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"odd, I understood the exact opposite to be happening."

You think the middle class is growing....because the lower class are earning more?

Neither of those things are happening.

11/27/2011 1:29:42 PM

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"bbehe Premie4Life 10521 Posts user info edit post Threats against a public figure aren't covered under freedom of speech. 11/27/2011 12:44:15 PM moron All American 21205 Posts user info edit post I don’t think threats against ANYONE are covered under freedom of speech"

Are we arguing constitutional law or the fake laws that have been put into place? I believe in the constitution, death threats are covered as freedom of speech.

[Edited on November 27, 2011 at 3:13 PM. Reason : .]

11/27/2011 3:12:07 PM

depends if you mean a true death threat or not, if a reasonable person test would deem the listener to conclude that the speaker truly intends to carry out the threat then no it is not protected

11/27/2011 3:40:48 PM

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"depends if you mean a true death threat or not, if a reasonable person test would deem the listener to conclude that the speaker truly intends to carry out the threat then no it is not protected"

That's where the second amendment comes into play. Protect yo ass and don't say shit you that can get your life taken away from you.

What we lack in society is respect, honor, tolerance, and understanding.

We have a severe epidemic of irrational, uneducated people in this country.

11/27/2011 4:20:01 PM

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"The TIME magazine covers are proof that there is collusion among numerous sources to prevent even the idea of revolution from being considered as possible within the United States. "

If the media is attempting to suppress news about the Egyptian revolution to prevent protest here at home, they're doing a lousy job about it. See:

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/0,9263,7601110228,00.html
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/0,9263,7601110214,00.html

Note in the second link the giant headline labeled "Revolution."

11/27/2011 6:06:35 PM

You're right the US Constitution says nothing about death threats or screaming 'Fire' in a crowded theater so clearly they should be allowed.

11/27/2011 6:11:36 PM

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"You're right the US Constitution says nothing about death threats or screaming 'Fire' in a crowded theater so clearly they should be allowed."

Agreed.

11/27/2011 7:28:23 PM

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"The most stringent protection of free speech would not protect a man falsely shouting fire in a theater and causing a panic. [...] The question in every case is whether the words used are used in such circumstances and are of such a nature as to create a clear and present danger that they will bring about the substantive evils that Congress has a right to prevent."

11/27/2011 7:59:43 PM

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"The TIME magazine covers are proof that there is collusion among numerous sources to prevent even the idea of revolution from being considered as possible within the United States. "

Oh please, its a simply a business trying to make its product more competitive. Its just making a small effort to target readers in specific regions - North America and the everywhere else. Sales and ad revenue are the only things that affect what goes on the cover of TIME magazine.

11/27/2011 10:17:18 PM