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"Our gameplan was to make Marshall look SO good that he might go pro after the season . Not only did we achieve that but we also limited their backup pg minutes so he won't be as prepared next season!"

Troll or not, that's funny

2/22/2012 11:07:00 AM

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"I'll agree to go back to talking reality now but I swear the first person that confronts me with the "you're an idiot" and posts something as inane as "we aren't guarding free throws! " (see above post) is going to launch me right back"

If I think it does it count? If not, then I think you're ____

2/22/2012 11:11:04 AM

The Mario kart trophy comment was good too.

State had two options, let Marshall shoot or let him drive and dish to Zeller/Henson for easy buckets. Honestly I wish Brown could keep Marshall out of the lane, but he can't so we had to let him shoot and of course he had the best shooting game of his life. Sucks for State, but that's how it goes for us.

Marshall won't be so awesome next year once his two 7 foot 1st round picks are not standing on the blocks.



[Edited on February 22, 2012 at 11:13 AM. Reason : k]

2/22/2012 11:12:43 AM

Speaking of the Mormon, I thought he had to take his missions trip next year.

2/22/2012 11:13:56 AM

nice way to use that off hand with a little push.

2/22/2012 11:18:19 AM

Should have had a picture of some dude with his shirt off..that might have worked better.



Also - props on the Snooki head.

[Edited on February 22, 2012 at 11:21 AM. Reason : r]

2/22/2012 11:20:28 AM

Anyone have a picture or clip of the nice steal brown had that he was whistled for? I'm not bitching about the refs as a whole, but that was probably the worst call I have ever seen.

2/22/2012 11:21:40 AM

You mean the one where he obviously slapped Zeller's hand?

2/22/2012 11:22:36 AM

You are absolutely correct that Marshall will be exposed if zeller, Henson, and Barnes go pro.

Same thing happened to Cota after jamison and carter left and Cota was significantly better than Marshall.

He is going to be leaving millions on the table if he doesn't go pro with them. May as well start learning bulgarian right now

2/22/2012 11:23:52 AM

Cota without Jamison and Carter was just as good as Cota with Jamison and Carter

[Edited on February 22, 2012 at 11:25 AM. Reason : unless you're being subjective, which you've previously taken issue with]

2/22/2012 11:25:19 AM

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"ou mean the one where he obviously slapped Zeller's hand?"

If you could clearly see it on the tv fair enough. Being present it looked clean. /shrug

2/22/2012 11:27:04 AM

When you play a top 10 team you pick your poison...we left the window open for their pass first PG to get the best looks. Not the two centers who are better and bigger, not the small forward who an all american and a ridiculous tough cover..... but their point guard who is not an established shooter. The guy shot over 80 percent from the field, will that really happen again??? I think not.

Bottom line is that we played tough and did not roll over like last time. The crowd was awesome and I'm proud of the team. We are on the cusp of greatness, but the reality is that we should not beat this team based on their roster and ranking. We hung with them and gave them a fight. A lot of good came out of this game in my opinion and hopefully this will set us up for a strong acc tournament showing. You cannot deny the improvement.

2/22/2012 11:28:10 AM

Cota went from being a surefire first round pick (probably lotto) to toiling in the D-league in the span of one season after carter and jamison left

2/22/2012 11:29:22 AM

Cota ain't shit. Jeff McInnis would run circles around him.

2/22/2012 11:30:30 AM

Watching the replay on TV - Brown got some hand. I've seen more of a foul go uncalled...but as far as letter of the law goes, was a foul.

2/22/2012 11:33:34 AM

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"It's like your so preconditioned to losing that you become almost apolegetic after a loss."

How are you going to bash everybody as not having sports knowledge and being conditioned to losing with this team. I know, Coach Gottfried isn't following the face method of turning 5-year basement dwellers into national powerhouses overnight. Apparently you expected State to be 23-4 right now or some shit, so hear me out on this...maybe, just maybe, it is you that in fact doesn't know shit.

I know you're just throwing shit out there for people to bite on with your "my gawd! Lorenzo Brown couldn't guard an NBA point guard! Worst college defender EVAR!!" type shit, but c'mon Martin.

2/22/2012 11:39:14 AM

Don't troll me when I'm on my best behavior. Lorenzo is a terrible defender, he can't guard 90% of D1 point guards effectively so quit trying to act like my comment is hyperbole

2/22/2012 11:44:49 AM

I liked it when Alex Johnson tried to post up Stillman White in typical playground style..."BALL! BALL! BALL! I'VE GOT THE WHITE BOY ON ME" He proceeds to force up a shot that misses bad, White gets the ball, leaves Johnson in his wake, and then feeds Zeller for an easy two.

That was funny.

[Edited on February 22, 2012 at 11:48 AM. Reason : .]

2/22/2012 11:48:40 AM

I saw that too. I was like Alex, is that you? Trying to post up? wtf?

2/22/2012 11:57:08 AM

Deshawn Painter is the worst

2/22/2012 11:57:58 AM

Cota was never considered a first-round pick, and he didn't drop at all after losing Jamison and Carter. He was top-five in assists in the country all four years.

You don't go from first-round to D-League when your numbers never fall off. You are who you are. Cota was 5'10", he was never getting drafted.

[Edited on February 22, 2012 at 11:59 AM. Reason : Painter is about to edge out Levi for my least favorite State player of the past 20 years]

2/22/2012 11:59:15 AM

He plays like a small forward. Towards the end of the game he tried to take it to the rim for the first time and it was painful to watch. He's got the body to bang on those guys, and he refuses to make a post move and do it.

2/22/2012 11:59:44 AM

Ed Cota offensive rating in '97-98. 111.

Next season. 102.

2/22/2012 12:14:30 PM

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"Cota went from being a surefire first round pick (probably lotto)..."

no

[Edited on February 22, 2012 at 12:18 PM. Reason : /]

2/22/2012 12:17:05 PM

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"Deshawn Painter is the worst"

7 points and 6 rbs in 20 mins off the bench (of course, only 30% from the field). but we could have (and had have) a worse 6th man. shut up dookie.

2/22/2012 12:18:51 PM

people are confusing Ed Cota with Joe Forte ITT

[Edited on February 22, 2012 at 12:30 PM. Reason : asdf]

2/22/2012 12:30:37 PM

probably not a foul

Quote :

"I'll agree to go back to talking reality now but I swear the first person that confronts me with the "you're an idiot" and posts something as inane as "we aren't guarding free throws! ""

you could try not complaining about us giving up "wide open" free throws, and then people wouldn't call you out on it...

2/22/2012 12:31:22 PM

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"Ed Cota offensive rating in '97-98. 111. Next season. 102."

Hope those are adjusted for competition, Martin

[Edited on February 22, 2012 at 1:37 PM. Reason : The numbers also contradict your claim that Cota is significantly better than Marshall. I'm confused]

2/22/2012 1:27:07 PM

Sweep the leg

2/22/2012 2:43:18 PM

2/22/2012 3:08:37 PM

I said wide open threes retreads. Wide open threes, layups, and free throws. Three things we love to give out

2/22/2012 3:56:35 PM

2/22/2012 5:31:31 PM

Deshawn is the worst.

7 of his 10 shots were 18 footers, which means UNC instantly rebounded the misses because our big was shooting the ball, which means you might as well count that as a turnover.

This was the second questioned that was answered during the game -- should Painter actually be shooting that 18 footer. The answer was a resounding NO.

2/22/2012 6:27:41 PM

The hand is part of the balll.

2/22/2012 6:49:22 PM

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"probably not a foul"

they called a foul on that, you fucking simpleton.

2/22/2012 7:24:16 PM

he is unable to process how the game is actually being played and relies on box scores and pictures from the game

2/22/2012 7:39:16 PM

Only Bullet could defend Painter after last night.

3/10 and mostly dumbass shots. Also Zeller/Henson made him look silly.

2/22/2012 9:08:33 PM

My favorite foul was McAdoo blantalanty running straight into CJL while he was in mid air instead of just moving out of the way.

But yet since arms aren't involved it is not an intentional.

[Edited on February 22, 2012 at 9:17 PM. Reason : arkansas little rock]

2/22/2012 9:16:41 PM

Painter is a borderline top 100 recruit who has steadily improved each season and offers us somewhat productive minutes against mediocre and bad teams. He pretty much won the Miami game for us by being unstoppable. Yes, he's a liability against top big men like UNC has. His offensive rating is 102. His rebounding rates are comparable to CJL. His FG% is very low, but he draws an inordinate amount of fouls and he is a solid FT shooter for a big man which gives him a TS% of 49% which is respectable. He also takes a lot of jumpers which isn't ideal but it does help with some of the spacing issues we have.

Levi Watkins on the other hand who was a top 35-40 recruit who made 3 consecutive 3's in the red-white game his freshman year and then proceeded to miss every shot for the next four seasons. He was also one of the worst rebounding big men to ever grace the court and he looked as though he might have an emotional breakdown at any moment.

2/22/2012 10:07:19 PM

Great points

Sorry for making the comparison

Painter still sucks

2/22/2012 10:10:56 PM

^ didn't he basically rip his knee twice?

2/22/2012 10:11:52 PM

yeah Watkins was actually having his first decent game of his career vs Maryland his freshman year and then tore his ACL.

I can't remember if he re-injured it but he definitely had some setbacks. It sapped his athleticism but I don't think he ever had the confidence to live up to his billing.

2/22/2012 10:28:02 PM

On second thought, Painter is also behind point guard Gavin Grant. Two more years of 19-footers will send Painter to the top.

2/22/2012 10:34:06 PM

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"Only Bullet could defend Painter after last night."

I'll still defend him...honestly the only shot I had a problem with him taking last night was the jumper he took after curling off the screen like he was redick or wood or something...we were stagnant on offense and he made a couple buckets

he's not a great player, but he's gotten better, and he can knock down the 16 foot jumper when he's open and has a second or so to square up

i dont want him shooting that shot all the time, but he's certainly improved on it and when he is about to shoot a 16 footer i'm a lot more "no, no, no...yes, yes, yes!" than when Howell or Leslie takes a shot from that range

2/22/2012 10:34:32 PM

Painter's holding his own while playing a pretty big role, basically being one of only 3 capable front court players on the team and the only back-up for foul-prone (and cramping) howell and leslie.

And I can't believe you're ripping LW, the team's assistant director of operations. He introduced lutz to the iPad!

2/22/2012 11:38:47 PM

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"My favorite foul was McAdoo blantalanty running straight into CJL while he was in mid air instead of just moving out of the way. But yet since arms aren't involved it is not an intentional."

That was freaking retarded... CJL fell so hard to the ground, too. I was afraid he was hurt when I watched the replay on the center jumbotron thing.

2/23/2012 1:57:52 AM

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"CENTER JUMBOTRON THING"

2/23/2012 8:54:56 AM

I'll defend Painter too. I agree with Tree, he may have taken one too many shots. I remember that one too where he did a catch-and-shoot. But he's proven he can knock down the long jumper.

But he plays smart and knows his range. I never get upset about his play like I do about CJL and Howell.

2/23/2012 9:48:56 AM

it's fine if painter wants to shoot jumpers with the shot clock winding down, but when there are 25+ seconds left, there are much better options. even more so when you factor in that he won't be anywhere near the rim for a rebound in the event of a miss.

2/23/2012 9:51:45 AM

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"Painter is also behind point guard Gavin Grant"

where do you rank him in regards to sg/sf grant?

(those were tough times, imagine if we only had one pg this year and he went down, and cjw or wood had to run the point. i'm so glad we were able to pick-up johnson)

[Edited on February 23, 2012 at 9:56 AM. Reason : ]

2/23/2012 9:54:19 AM