Jake Delhomme woulda thrown the football over them there mountains










then it would have been intercepted

9/30/2012 4:35:38 PM

Did you see Cam Newton mismanage the clock at the end of the first half? Better bench his ass.

9/30/2012 4:35:56 PM

I'll be interested to see what Cam's reaction is considering the backlash last week

9/30/2012 4:36:43 PM

does Clausen start next week or Armanti?

9/30/2012 4:36:51 PM

Quote :

"lol "best team in the NFC""

just wait, someone will say it

tennessee and miami are "good" somehow

9/30/2012 4:38:24 PM

maybe we'll lose to FSU next week in similar heartbreaking fashion

loljk we'll lose by 30

9/30/2012 4:39:13 PM

9/30/2012 5:01:02 PM

9/30/2012 5:06:37 PM

lol Hurney

9/30/2012 9:05:26 PM

I really don't know what mcdermott and hurney could possibly do to get fired at this point.

Oh and this nakamura guy might be the worst starting safety I've ever seen in the nfl. Can't tackle, can't cover, lines up 20 yards deep every play. That's two games in a row he's just been abused

10/1/2012 9:26:34 AM

if Nakamura learned under Ed Reed, then Ed Reed is the worst teacher ever

10/1/2012 10:33:23 AM

Sherrod Martin must have really pissed somebody off.

10/1/2012 10:45:45 AM

Nakamura has a 1/2 inch vertical

10/1/2012 10:52:10 AM

Richardson made some really telling comments about Martin at the end of one game last year. A reporter asked him what he thought about Martin, and he said something along the lines of "I don't think much."

Seems like Big Cat might have something to do it with his benching. Regardless, Panthers have to put him out there. He's not good, but there's potential. Nakamura isn't good and has zero potential.

10/1/2012 11:02:16 AM

Yeah it's hard to hang a loss on one player, but nakamura consistently got burned because the falcons specifically targeted him bc they knew he couldn't keep up. He fucked up on both of whites touchdowns, had a terrible missed tackle on the Turner touchdown run, and completely botched the coverage on that last long pass that setup the winning field goal. He had a few great plays (interception in the red zone, great pass defended in the endzone) but overall he was terrible. Fuck hurney for giving us no cap space so we're stuck with this shitty secondary for the next three years

[Edited on October 1, 2012 at 11:26 AM. Reason : )]

10/1/2012 11:23:52 AM

Yeah, starting a 5th round pick and another teams garbage in the secondary will be bad news all year long. Still, we had 7 sacks and you have to give some of that credit to our secondary forcing Ryan to hold the ball a little longer than he wanted. I don't think it's all bad, and the young guys will get better. Nakamura is a fucking train wreck though.

10/1/2012 11:35:43 AM

why dont we try to do like the Jets are doing and convert Armanti Edwards into a CB

10/1/2012 11:44:42 AM

^^Unfortunately Sherrod Martin was a 2nd round pick, which makes it even worse. Chalk another one up for Hurney!

[Edited on October 1, 2012 at 11:45 AM. Reason : .]

10/1/2012 11:45:21 AM

I really enjoyed this:

http://www.sportsonearth.com/article/39297322/

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"Mandatory Monday: Newton Watch Mandatory Monday gets physical this week, as we hear bodies talk all around the NFL: Bengals fans make their presence felt, the Packers celebrate touchdowns with noogies and Santonio Holmes has a lower threshold of pain than the people who watch him play. Several teams brought home the bacon for the first time this week, and just in time, because the bacon shortage is coming! Of course, nobody has body language quite as complex -- or as scrutinized -- as Cam Newton, so we kick off this week with an in-depth look at the man, the myth, the mannerisms and the mood swings. Click here to find out more! * * * Cam-Did Camera The Cam Newton Body Language Interpreter is a precision-tuned $12-million device assembled out of Ouija boards, dowsing rods and an old Jerry Richardson mood ring that got stuck on “enraged” during the 2011 lockout. It is the most accurate instrument ever invented to gauge the personality, emotional state and “winner-ness” of a quarterback, more precise and insightful than even the fevered imagination of a late-night sports-talk caller. Given the briefest image of Newton, the Body Language Interpreter (BLI) can peer into the dankest storage closets of his psyche. The BLI was pressed into service after Newton’s Week 3 Pout Heard ’Round the World. After Newton reacted badly to a late-game benching, teammate Steve Smith criticized him for sulking on the sidelines, and local newspapers mocked Newton in political cartoons. Newton’s father even got into the act, recounting for the Charlotte Observer a story of how Newton brooded after a poor performance in a baseball game when he was 12 or 13 years old, even though his team won. Most parents are content to just show naked baby pictures to the prom date, but whatever: Newton now wears the “crybaby” label because he doesn’t display the proper post-benching facial expressions, and because he didn’t have the personality of Y.A. Tittle when he was in junior high. With a promising player’s reputation at stake, the Sports on Earth team cranked up the Newton BLI and pointed it at the field for the entire Falcons-Panthers game. Here are our ultra-scientific BLI readings of Newton’s true feelings during key points in the game: Pregame Introductions: Rehearsed. Newton leapt, bounced and did “the airplane” during the pregame festivities, looking so much like public perception was the furthest thing from his mind that he proved conclusively that public perception was the only thing on his mind. Newton looked loose to the naked eye, but the BLI picked up clear evidence of “trying to look loose.” You cannot argue with hard science. First touchdown to Greg Olsen: Ebullient. The BLI has a special setting for “ebullient.” Roddy White’s Game-Tying Touchdown: Newton’s body language could not be interpreted on this play, but the BLI got a clear message from Panthers safety Haruki Nakamura: “Yikes! What knucklehead left me isolated in deep coverage against Roddy White? I cannot cover him! I cannot even locate the football!” That exact reading was seen again in the game’s final minute. As for why Nakamura was left as the lone deep safety so often against an opponent with such a fine deep passing game, hey, this is the Cam Newton Body Language Interpreter, not the Sean McDermott Electroencephalogram. Steve Smith’s Kickoff Return Fumble: Again, no reading on Newton, but the BLI captured the irony emanating from Smith, the self-proclaimed expert on sideline comportment, as he brooded silently with no teammate within 20 feet. DeAngelo Williams’ Touchdown: Mildly Enthusiastic. Newton’s high-fives and sideline points lacked conviction. A true warrior would have snarled more. Newton’s Rushing Touchdown: Defiant. Newton danced like an extra from “Finian’s Rainbow” in the end zone, handed the football to a kid in a Newton jersey, then got some eye drops on the sideline. Eye drops? Winners don’t use eye drops! Why, Ken Stabler used to rub road gravel into his eyes after touchdowns! Kealoha Pilares’ Touchdown Gives the Panthers a Lead: Determined. There were no eye drops after this touchdown. Newton even bared his teeth on the sideline, displaying his chewing gum. You didn’t want to be the gum at that moment, because it was getting grimly chewed. Late-Game, Short-Yardage Fumble: Self-consciously Miserable. Newton held his head up, then put it down, then clapped. He put his hands on his hips, hung around the periphery of the pile, then wandered to the sideline like a toddler trying to slip away from a broken cookie jar. On the sideline, he curled his lip, set his jaw, beat his chest in an “it’s on me” motion, tried to smile and lost the smile. It was the sampler platter of emotional responses, guaranteeing everyone something to dislike. Newton’s awkward ambivalence left the Panthers’ defense no choice but to play the final minute as if they were just woken up from a sound sleep. After the 30-28 loss: Sullen. Newton covered his head with a towel like a sad little shepherd in a Christmas pageant. Final Report: The Cam Newton Body Language Interpreter determined conclusively that Newton is not capable of single-handedly winning games and does not react with granite-faced stoicism to everything that happens. It also determined that judging quarterbacks by their body language is ridiculous. Quarterbacks are supposed to be judged by their haircuts, and Newton has Champion Hair. Next week: We use a seismograph to measure Greg Schiano’s teeth grinding."

10/1/2012 12:40:58 PM

The last 5-6 paragraphs are about the worst coaching decision of the week and "a strong candidate for worst coaching decision of the year"

http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/8447703/mark-sanchez-getting-better-rest-week-4-news

10/1/2012 2:49:51 PM

it easily gets my vote

10/1/2012 2:56:09 PM

and this from Barnwell's former boss:

http://deadspin.com/5947937/was-the-panthers-fourth+down-decision-dumb-enough-to-change-the-nfls-punt+to+win-philosophy

10/1/2012 3:26:37 PM

NFL coaches don't play to win; they play not to lose. Only a ballsy few like Payton and Belichick buck the pussification.

10/1/2012 3:29:42 PM

it blows my mind that there are fans/pundits out there who still believe that punting in that situation is the way to go

10/1/2012 3:52:03 PM

Welp, looking forward, Panthers next 6 games are all winnable, especially the 4 home games. If we can be .500 (5-5) at week 12, the wild card will still be in play with a big primetime game against Philly where our hopes will be permanently crushed

[Edited on October 1, 2012 at 3:57 PM. Reason : :]

10/1/2012 3:57:07 PM

This is so right on, from Grantland

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"Pretend you've got your life savings riding on a Panthers victory. Would you rather the Panthers try to get one yard with Cam Newton or try to stop Matt Ryan from picking up 50 yards at home against Haruki Nakamura? "

10/1/2012 4:36:31 PM

I've got less gripe with us punting it than I do with us giving up the sidelines for easy passing routes when they had no timeouts left

If we could've kept them inside the sidelines they might not have gotten into FG range

10/1/2012 4:38:38 PM

http://firehurney.com/

Fucking signed

10/1/2012 4:43:59 PM

signed and added on fb

10/2/2012 1:50:41 AM

i would have gone for it but i wasn't as pissed as i should have been at the time when we decided to punt. I was thinking the decision was closer than it really was now that we've seen the numbers.

Anyway, the punt was spectacular and the pilhares save was amazing. The fact that we still couldn't even come close to holding Atlanta even after downing the ball at the 1 just highlights how spectacularly wrong the decision to punt was.

I haven't 100% given up on rivera yet, but it's looking more and more like he was a poor hire. I've definitely 100% given up on McDermott and i'm 1000% ready for hurney to go.

What a freaking joker putting this defensive unit on the field AGAIN. Oh, we're going to go back to Sherrod martin now cool. That's our plan?! Well i mean maybe he's good we did pick a freaking safety in the 2nd round only 25 spots behind where Ed Reed went in his draft class.

10/2/2012 2:06:55 AM

This is from an AMA (ask me anything) by the creater of FootballOutsiders.com, Aaron Schatz:

Question:

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"A lot of the smart football sabermetrics guys have various pet peeves about public perception of what smart football strategy is. What's the incorrect strategic decision that most coaches make and the media supports that ticks you off the most?"

Answer (emphasis mine):

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"Man, this is obvious as sin, right? I am so sick of talking about fourth downs, but hey, it's there, it's the answer, right? We can argue day and night about situations where the math is very close between going for it and not going for it, but I don't understand why on earth we're stuck arguing day and night about situations where the math is NOT AT ALL CLOSE. Teams should never punt on fourth-and-1 if they are on the opponent's half of the field, period, end of story. Never, ever, ever, ever, ever."

http://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/10klgg/iam_the_creator_of_footballoutsiderscom_aaron/

10/2/2012 11:45:37 AM

(there's an entire column of his a few posts up analyzing the Panthers decision/lack of balls)

10/2/2012 11:49:08 AM

heh. Still going through everything. That AMA was from before the game, btw.

10/2/2012 11:49:51 AM

Hurney was on the Mac Attack this morning and they grilled him. Worth the listen when the post it on WFNZ.

10/3/2012 9:19:22 AM

Just to beat the dead horse some more: http://espn.go.com/espn/playbook/story/_/id/8449538/offenses-scoring-control-time-tweak-some-rules

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"Sweet 'N' Sour Sequence of the Week Trailing Carolina 28-27, Atlanta took possession on its 1-yard line with 59 seconds remaining, out of timeouts. Matt Ryan play-faked, then threw 59 yards to Roddy White. Two quick sideline passes advanced the spot to the Panthers' 22, and stopped the clock. Field goal, and the Falcons, a league-best plus-10 in turnovers, won by covering 73 yards in less than a minute without a timeout. Sweet. For the Panthers, all was sour. At 1:44, Carolina faced fourth-and-inches on the Atlanta 45, the opponent holding no timeouts. The Cats tried to draw the Falcons offside, failed, and punted. Just go for it! Carolina averaged 6.4 yards per offensive snap -- gain 1 yard and the game is over! Now Atlanta has the ball on its 1 with 59 seconds remaining and no timeouts. Where oh where might the pass go? Maybe up the field? Yet the Panthers put eight defenders "in the box" as if expecting a power rush, then fell for a play fake. The Falcons had no choice but to throw deep. Yet Carolina stacked against the run and then fell for a play fake. Now it's Atlanta ball on the Panthers' 35 with 19 seconds remaining and the Falcons holding no timeouts. Atlanta needs a field goal to win. The Falcons need to get out of bounds to stop the clock. Where oh where might the pass go? Maybe to the sideline! Yet Carolina had no cornerbacks along the sideline; Ryan completed a short throw to Tony Gonzalez, who stepped out of bounds. Now there are 14 seconds remaining and Atlanta is on the 28. The pass can go one of two places -- the end zone or the sideline. Just to prove the previous play was no fluke, Carolina again has no cornerback along the sideline. Quick out, WR Harry Douglas steps out of bounds and Atlanta is positioned for the winning kick. Before the two quick sideline passes, Carolina had a timeout -- the Panthers could have stopped the action to ensure their defensive backs understood the situation. The final two minutes of this contest were very sour for Carolina coaches, who made a series of knuckleheaded decisions."

10/3/2012 10:32:14 AM

Sorry, Greggggggggggg Easterbrook carries no weight here

10/3/2012 10:32:46 AM

Wednesday is the day to forget the last game and look forward to the next game.

4 pm game time and a whole day to tailgate? best sunday ever.

10/3/2012 10:52:43 AM

^ I'll be there! Go Seahawks Panthers!!!!!

10/3/2012 10:56:14 AM

Gonna have to miss this one. Cam and Russell will have many more battles, but this could be the last Brady/Peyton game we ever see.

10/3/2012 11:00:33 AM

yeah i'm of course pulling for the Panthers 100%, but i want Russ to have a good day so he doesn't lose his job to backup extraordinaire Matt Flynn

10/3/2012 11:18:30 AM

i hope he throws five pick-sixes

10/3/2012 11:27:17 AM

Heard the first hour on WFNZ this morning, but had to get into work before Hurney came on. It's good to hear they actually backed up their crap talk when he came on. Normally they talk big before Hurney comes on and then throw softballs when he gets on the air.

10/3/2012 12:40:48 PM

welp

10/7/2012 4:08:18 PM

who will State/Carolina Jaguars fans cheer for? who will they cheer for?

10/7/2012 4:17:29 PM

im cheering for that holding penalty

10/7/2012 4:23:59 PM

I'm obviously pulling for the State Carolina Jaguars

10/7/2012 4:25:25 PM

gorgeous option play

10/7/2012 4:32:31 PM

1/8 for 12 yards......seriously?

10/7/2012 5:08:27 PM

what a turd of a game

10/7/2012 5:09:44 PM

seattle has a tendency to ugly up a game, right down to those hideous unis (i don't mind them usually, but they seem extra atrocious today)

10/7/2012 5:15:44 PM