18 pages of suicidal losers

[Edited on January 22, 2013 at 9:59 PM. Reason : btw, plz dont kill yourselves irl]

1/22/2013 9:59:10 PM

12-6 still quite doable ...


i think people forget that 12-6 requires us to lose 6 games.

1/22/2013 10:00:01 PM

Still nurturing my idea of losing early and often.

We were up by 17. We had the game in the bag. I was barely paying attention at one point. There's absolutely nothing good that can come of this. What I don't understand is for the people looking at the bright side - I just don't know what that is; there's a million different ways to lose games, and this is like the epitome. Think of how many more times shit like this is liable to happen.

[Edited on January 22, 2013 at 10:02 PM. Reason : k]

1/22/2013 10:00:56 PM

we were down double digits under the last tv timeout and were missed FTs away from tying the game/taking the lead

all the people who harp over "NC State Shit" based on losing big leads don't seem to realize that other teams can lose big leads, which Wake ALMOST did

to me its just sad, not that people get upset about us blowing a big lead, i'm upset at that too, but there are people who get so riled up when we miss one shot or make one bad pass, ie any game thread post ever

1/22/2013 10:05:31 PM

WE WERE RANKED

THEY ARE DOGSHIT

WE SHOULD HAVE BLOWN THEM OUT

1/22/2013 10:10:29 PM

For all the talk about the GT game being a trap game, this game was much more of a trap game. Think about it, one we had one day to prepare, the UNC game with espn there on the horizon, playing a shitty team that is much, much better at home than on the road. I guess you have to blame Gott, but everything went wrong for us in this game: foul trouble, inconsistent shitty refs, wood playing like shit, etc.

Oh well hopefully this will serve as more motivation for the UNC game. Really takes the shine and enthusiasm for that game though. I wonder what Julius randle was thinking if he was watching us implode tonight. Ultimately it was just one game, but this was one that will really crush our rpi and resume.

1/22/2013 10:11:06 PM

This was a game that I was paying about 50% attention to at one point in the first half. Cannot believe we lost that shit. Epitome of an NC State shit game - lead at the beginning, have referees get overly whistle happy, other team comes back/we choke it away, and then we come back enough at the end to give fans hope. Just like the MD game it's a game where the season clearly isn't over, but the win over Duke officially means nothing now.

1/22/2013 10:11:46 PM

Just seemed to me the refs were choosy with their fouls. They had 0 of their most important players in foul trouble. As hard as that one kid was playing for wake he should have had 3 when all our guys had 3.

Was very inconsistent on their calls. Like the "hold" on Howell on the easy inbound and then the rape at the end.

[Edited on January 22, 2013 at 10:14 PM. Reason : No excuse for loss]

1/22/2013 10:13:19 PM

I'm not going to say that officiating was the only reason we lost this game. I think our team is old enough and mature enough to play through that. However, maybe someone on here can answer how it is that a player can go up for a shot, not get called for a personal foul on the shot, make the shot and THEN be given a flagrant foul after review, and the basket count? I don't understand how they can award a basket on a play where the shooter is called for a foul that enabled him to make the shot. I thought that's why they called offensive fouls....?

[Edited on January 22, 2013 at 10:15 PM. Reason : ]

1/22/2013 10:13:29 PM

I can't embed, but this fucking song seems appropriate right now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZL27Aiw9_I

Also, I'm terribly disappointed, but maybe a little fucking up is what we need to get the team motivated again. I don't know if I'm just being optimistic, but I could see how a team that climbs as high as beating Duke might begin to feel invincible. Maybe a reality check like this is what they need to regroup. Maybe. With that said, here's hoping the reality check is done. I don't want to fucking lose twice in one week.

1/22/2013 10:15:36 PM

I'd go with that logic but we are way past the Maryland game

1/22/2013 10:16:52 PM

MD should have been the reality check, lol

1/22/2013 10:17:14 PM

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"but there are people who get so riled up when we miss one shot or make one bad pass, ie any game thread post ever"

I've been ignoring it, but it does seem worse this year than years past. However, I think it has less to do with NC State fans, and more to do with the culture of the Internet and spectating in general.

There are a few (non-State) fans I can't watch sports with cause they start in with the rage the moment the whistle blows. It's remarkable how venomous they can get even watching games in which they should have no personal interest. When you add in the Internet, obviously the "problem spectating" gets worse.

1/22/2013 10:24:13 PM

Game win, struggle to get 9 pages

Game loss, 50 pages by might

1/22/2013 10:24:55 PM

Well, I'm home, relaxed, trying to get this crap off my mind. Looking forward to Saturday. Sometimes things happen. Hell, they flashed it on the screen that VT beat #1 Duke not 2 years ago. Good teams lose bad games sometimes. I'm weirdly not skeptical of this team, but highly skeptical of its performances so far.

1/22/2013 10:27:26 PM

Doss2k on the money predicting a Wake player would have a career night...

1/22/2013 10:27:37 PM

Hey guys just got back from the 'Canes game and ohh GAWWWWD what the hell happened in here tonight

1/22/2013 10:28:01 PM

Ted Valentine happened.

(And Scott missing a wide open three near the end of the game that would've won it)

1/22/2013 10:39:09 PM

not too down after this loss. the team doesn't care, so why should I? We'll beat chapel hill, lose a few more bullshit games, win a few more we shouldn't and crap out in the round of 32. Maybe we can see some sweet dunks along the way.

1/22/2013 10:49:09 PM

Glad I'm skiing instead of watching the game on Saturday. But who am I kidding, I'll still be watching

1/22/2013 10:57:13 PM

LOL @ people blaming the refs for losing to Wake fucking Forest

1/22/2013 10:59:57 PM

IBTBF - In Before the Bitch Fest

1/22/2013 11:02:44 PM

no you aren't. you're late to that party. but at least you got to use your cute acronym.

1/22/2013 11:06:12 PM

Our guys play like they're dumb as shit. I don't think it's Gott so much as everyone playing like it's their freshman year.

1/22/2013 11:14:38 PM

sorry, meant to put it in quotes. Too late now.

1/22/2013 11:45:00 PM

Ugh. All five of our next games could very likely be losses. These two losses @MD and @Wake are going to hurt. At least we made a come back and nearly won both, but L's are L's, especially to shitty teams.

1/23/2013 12:00:19 AM

We are basically playing just as bad as we did against UNCA. ACC opponents are going to be able to hang the L on us, unlike UNCA.

1/23/2013 12:25:54 AM

face predition comes true = he appears for about 15 posts

face predition proves false = he disappears for a week.

LOL

1/23/2013 3:18:20 AM

I'm not coming on here to brag because damn, I HATE being right about something so painful so early on but I called this after the clemson game.

and the maryland game
and the duke game
and the bc game
and the uncg game
amd the osu game
and even the umass game when we didn't play d and brown had been inconsistent
etc. etc.

I'd much rather be a troll spouting off wreckless, incorrect statements but my statements are all true.

stick a fork in em they are done. and by done obviously that is relative because there are still games on the schedule but what i mean by done is not that the team is done winning but the idea that this team would be better than last years team is what is done. the idea that we would be the best team in the acc is over. the idea that we might go to a final four is over. the idea that this was our best team since the 70s is over.

Don't get me wrong this is still an above average team but no team that is not top 100 in rebounding could ever be a national threat.

Some people are happy that the team will make the tournament and win a game or 2 but that is not the season that was expected. Maybe those people are right in saying we should shutup about not meeting those expectations because gott is only in his second year and can't be held responsible for another coaches recruits not living up to their potential. I'm not going to post about it anymore because its done.

From now on my mindset will adjust to be like the people who just hope and dream of making the tournament. I'll only be disappointing if we fall out of the tournament bubble.

[Edited on January 23, 2013 at 4:04 AM. Reason : anger is a result of passion for this uni]

1/23/2013 4:03:41 AM

tl;dr

1/23/2013 4:38:55 AM

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"Some people are happy that the team will make the tournament and win a game or 2 but that is not the season that was expected. Maybe those people are right in saying we should shutup about not meeting those expectations because gott is only in his second year and can't be held responsible for another coaches recruits not living up to their potential."

- The only people who set their (low) expectations based on the past 20 years of failure are losers. You set expectations by anticipating the future, not looking at the past. It'd be like investing in a stock based on what it has done, not what you think it will do.

- Judging gott by what year he is in is tantamount to putting on the blinders and covering your ears. Instead, you judge him by given what he had to work with, did he overachieve or underachieve. Last year, he overachieved. This year, he is underachieving.

The number of teams in america that have more quality talent and experience than us is small. This number is smaller than 17, 25, 30, whatever we are currently ranked. Beating a wounded Duke was the closest we came this year to playing to our level.

Gott has to do a better job. We can't be like Roy Williams and coach poorly but recruit our way to championships.

[Edited on January 23, 2013 at 8:35 AM. Reason : .]

1/23/2013 8:34:44 AM

Our depth is not very good. He hasn't coached any defense, but without TDT, Painter, Lewis hasn't looked ready at all.. I don't think he's done a bad job. We were overrated at the beginning, we have a very good first 6, we just need a defensive coordinator or something. And for brown/Leslie to quit freaking out when other teams make a run and try to do everything themselves

1/23/2013 8:45:29 AM

i'm just disappointed that we lost such a shitty game right before Gameday comes to NC State. We had such positive press about the program after the Duke win, now we're back to being a bunch of disappoint this week

oh well, i do think we whoop unc by 20, and everything gets back on track...having the opponents fans rush the court on you twice in 7 days has to be a wake up call. it HAS to be.

[Edited on January 23, 2013 at 8:58 AM. Reason : .]

1/23/2013 8:58:12 AM

i'm sure glad i stopped following the game threads, some of yall are crazy

1/23/2013 9:05:41 AM

attending that game was extremely humiliating.

i'm done emotionally investing myself in NCSU athletics until they can prove to me some sort of consistency, in ANYTHING.

[Edited on January 23, 2013 at 9:08 AM. Reason : .]

1/23/2013 9:08:01 AM

game threads are for impulsive, emotional discussion.

logical, well thought out discussion is for the overall season thread.

1/23/2013 9:09:17 AM

i blame aaronburro for changing the first page stuff!

that and we cant play any defense

1/23/2013 9:47:19 AM

don't feed the dork-troll

1/23/2013 9:47:59 AM

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"Scott wood really needs less playing time. He needs to be the 3 point specialst off the bench. Just doing that alone would dramatically improve our D"

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"I agree with sand robot, which seems wrong."

1/23/2013 10:18:39 AM

Everybody thinks Scott Wood should be coming off the bench, then he knocks down 5 three pointers the next game.

What were you fuckers saying when Warren was putting up goose eggs two games in a row?? Idiots.

1/23/2013 10:20:10 AM

What a roller coaster this team is... :/

We have made just about every mistake in the book at this point...and I am not sure if that is a good thing or a bad thing..

Blame lies on just about everyone's shoulders, players and staff. The only thing certain is that our ceiling is very high, but we just don't have the focus to reach it with any consistency night after night. I can believe that this team beat #1 Duke, but I cannot believe that this team has now dropped last minute L's to WAKE and BC (and almost Clemson). We have to find a way to effectively stop other teams bigger Centers. Booker, Len, and now Thomas. I'm really surprised Plumlee didn't have a career game against us as well.

A slight improvement in Free Throws (remember how well we shot them against Duke?? and the result that followed) would be the likely difference in undefeated in conference play at this point vs. where we are currently at. We are blowing Free Throws at the end of the game that would in all likelyhood affect the outcome.

Whoever said it, the Duke win has just been completely erased. That is depressing, but it's still relatively early in conference play and this gang can get back on track with a few minor tweaks regarding FT, Def, and overall discipline. I am pulling for Gott to realize that discipline for 40 minutes is a serious issue with this team. We cannot just rely on turning it on when we need to. Thats the difference b/w this team and a Final Four team. We have no shot at that goal right now. I am hopeful that culture can still shift. Gott needs to reign them in.

1/23/2013 11:28:03 AM

^we beat BC. we lost to maryland at maryland.

1/23/2013 12:08:52 PM

^ good find. My fault, meant losses to WAKE and Maryland- not BC

1/23/2013 1:01:29 PM

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"^we beat BC. we lost to maryland at maryland. "

gonna lose to Duke at Duke
gonna lose to UNC at UNC
rinse, repeat

1/23/2013 1:09:51 PM

well, we did beat BC @ BC.

1/23/2013 2:44:30 PM

The refs didn't make CJ Leslie goal-tend twice, but that no call on the last play was ridiculous. Especially after the way they were calling it all night and the composure he put on in the last few minutes.

1/23/2013 3:30:37 PM

how is there not a video of that horrific foul call already posted?

1/23/2013 6:28:56 PM

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"jbrick83 All American 16461 Posts user info edit post Everybody thinks Scott Wood should be coming off the bench, then he knocks down 5 three pointers the next game. What were you fuckers saying when Warren was putting up goose eggs two games in a row?? Idiots. 1/23/2013 10:20:10 AM "

You are simply retarded

1/23/2013 6:34:17 PM

Wood played 29 minutes and couldn't get a single rebound. Pathetic.

If he isn't hitting shots, he's worthless.

1/24/2013 10:57:08 AM

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"I've been ignoring it, but it does seem worse this year than years past. However, I think it has less to do with NC State fans, and more to do with the culture of the Internet and spectating in general."

It's not because of the internet and it's not because of speculation. It's because Gottfried is our strongest glimmer of hope of relevancy in the NCAA in over two decades. After our first season under him where we went to the FUCKING TOURNAMENT and played toe-to-toe with Kansas, it seemed like he was a guy who could get us where we wanted to be. Somebody who could make us win again. Somebody who might just be able to return us to the glory days we were all convinced were long gone.

That's why it's worse this year. It's not so much that we have lost games as much as what these losses, in my opinion, might signal. I know this rings true for me but I'm goddamn tired of NCSU being shitty in basketball and I damn sure was tired of NCSU being the laughingstock of the ACC. Duke and UNC are practically right next door and they are almost always at the top of their game. People from other places don't understand, but NCSU really is the ultimate underdog team because of this IMO. You practically can't go anywhere in Raleigh aside from places near campus and watch NCSU play either of those teams without being a minority in the city the fucking school is in. Each loss signals a possibility that the Gottfried era might be more of the same heartbreak we're all used to. That's why it's fucking worse; because we don't fucking want it to be more of the same that bad.

That being said, the coach is going to have his bad games. It's only his second year. Relax y'all. It'll be fine. We're going to the tournament and there is still hope.

1/25/2013 8:26:49 AM