Smitty's TD drop

LaFell's 4th down drop

Big Money's sack/strip/fumble that wasn't

10/6/2013 6:58:25 PM

GOOO PANTHERS!!!!

10/6/2013 6:58:47 PM

I did read on PFT that the Panthers had already started background checks on potential coaching candidates.

At least Gettleman is getting a good jump on the inevitable.

10/6/2013 6:59:46 PM

These refs jobbed us more than they did my Vols yesterday

10/6/2013 7:02:30 PM

cock suckingest team to ever suck a cock

10/6/2013 7:06:19 PM

it'd be pretty cool if we had a coaching staff who played to our QB's strengths

10/6/2013 7:09:55 PM

At least the Denver Dallas game started at 4:25 so its still got some time left to watch. Though, I'd hate to have to watch the Cowboys win now.

10/6/2013 7:10:38 PM

the Giants must really, really suck

10/6/2013 7:12:15 PM

easy to open up the playbook during a massacre of an awful team

10/6/2013 7:14:18 PM

I hope Pat Hayden is at the airport waiting on Ron

10/6/2013 7:16:43 PM

I hope they throw him out of the plane

10/6/2013 7:17:27 PM

Can't wait til we win some meaningless December games and Big Cat decides to keep Rivera around and re-hire Hurney as GM

10/6/2013 7:25:11 PM

Cam Newton is not good at football

10/6/2013 7:25:26 PM

his true passion is in laptop acquisition

10/6/2013 7:25:58 PM

sad when a city make Cleveland look like a mecca of sports

10/6/2013 7:28:51 PM

Get ready to say good bye to Rivera. If he makes it another couple games I will be surprised.

Quote :

"it'd be pretty cool if we had a coaching staff who played to our QB's strengths"

Agreed

Maybe others saw the game different, but to me it seemed Cam was looking for the deep throw a lot and frequently holds the ball to long. Maybe I am imagining things, but 1) it does not seem that there are any intermediate routes, and 2) they do a poor job of rolling Cam out and letting him play on the edge.


III

10/7/2013 1:10:55 AM

Panthers opening as dogs to the Vikes now, early line is MIN -2.

Things could get super ugly for Rivera if the Panthers lose next week, like fired midseason ugly.

Legit shot at landing a top 5 pick though, so at least there's that.

10/7/2013 7:01:03 AM

Josh Freeman signed by the Vikes, go ahead and pencil in a L

10/7/2013 7:47:34 AM

Where is face at? Team's looking good, huh?

10/7/2013 8:53:04 AM

Team got deep dicked by the refs and made two brutal drops.


We outgained them by 100 yards and still managed to lose somehow

10/7/2013 9:00:12 AM

Trying to turn Newton into a pocket passer is gonna be the end for this team. If you are gonna draft Newton you know the risks involved, but let him play how he needs to to win games. Yes, he will eventually get hurt just like RG3 and pretty much every other QB that runs, but thats his game. If you wanted a pocket passer then you should have drafted one!

10/7/2013 9:28:13 AM

They did

10/7/2013 9:49:20 AM

I said a pocket passer, not a whiny backstreet boy wannabe. I blame Andrew Luck for all of this!

10/7/2013 10:01:44 AM

10/7/2013 10:02:05 AM

I'm worried about Cam. I think Rivera may have ruined him. He needed a lot of help coming into the league and he's basically gotten none. If he was on a team coached by Jim Harbaugh he'd be great but in our dumbshit organization he's still just raw materials.

I have a bad feeling we're going to hire a new coach with the requirement that he has to have a "plan for Cam" and we're going to waste another 3 years on that.

[Edited on October 7, 2013 at 11:06 AM. Reason : e]

10/7/2013 11:06:05 AM

Newton is most definitely still fixable. Why not focus on getting some help at WR, you need at least 2. Smith is going to go downhill soon, I think you're starting to see signs of it now, and when he does it's going to happen fast. Small guys who rely on speed and leaping ability don't age particularly well.

Panthers should really be trying to get a couple of WRs, a RB, and a coach. Newton isn't the problem, the offense and the philosophy are the problem. Oh, and the secondary is pretty bad, which is a shame because the front 7 is awesome.

10/7/2013 12:18:42 PM

I can't find anything that says what we got back for beason, I know it's a pick but have they not said what round it's in?

10/7/2013 12:22:30 PM

I think it's a 7th.

10/7/2013 12:33:30 PM

Quote :

"Panthers should really be trying to get a couple of WRs, a RB, and a coach."

Take out RB and add OT and Corner

10/7/2013 12:57:11 PM

We have a bad o line and below avg wr. Cam is the lone bright spot on offense. Not sure why hes getting the blame.

He didnt have a good game yesterday but it wasn't terrible or anything.

We are not scoring nearly enough points for how many drives we have put together this season.

Id pin most of that on our playcalling, oline, and the fact we dont have any great red zone targets.

We need to get back to our 2 TE sets which means finding another athletic te.

10/7/2013 1:00:58 PM

I fucking loved our 2 TE sets with Olsen and Shockey

and people blaming Cam for that loss:

a) didn't watch the game

or

b) already don't like him for whatever bullshit reason

10/7/2013 1:09:30 PM

well cam's 26th in passing yards (pg), slightly below 30th in completion percentage, and around the same for passer rating,

I'd like to see what cam can do with better receivers and prob a better Off coordinator, so I'm not calling him delhomme at this point but I hope we don't splurge and offer him a mega contract either

and there may be a trend starting to develop now with qbs that rely on their athleticism hitting a wall after their first yrs

[Edited on October 7, 2013 at 1:20 PM. Reason : k]

10/7/2013 1:19:11 PM

he has an awful line protecting him and an extremely bland offensive coordinator

not to mention no weapons and the worst head coach in the league

10/7/2013 1:22:15 PM

All I'm going to say is that it's amazing what a head coach can do. I'm a KC fan, and the difference between that team under Reid and that team under Crennel is night and day. Alex Smith is putting up about the most mediocre QB play you can imagine, but the execution on both sides of the ball is lightyears ahead of where it was, and the players don't look lost out there.

Firing Rivera and replacing him with an NFL caliber coach would probably be worth 4 wins by itself.

10/7/2013 1:32:49 PM

I wish Cam would learn to throw receivers open. He seems to have that Pete Thomas mentality of waiting for the receiver to be open before throwing instead of anticipating when they'll be open. He did it on the first drive but not much afterwards. I wonder if since teams usually plan out their whole first drive, or at least their first 10-15 offensive plays, he really got a feel for those, but then once Shula started calling plays the rest of the game he just couldn't keep up.

And even though Smith had the dropped TD yesterday and Lafell the dropped 4th down conversion, both very costly plays that weren't Cam's fault, we still have the best WR trio we've had since Smith/Moose/Proehl. Even Jake Delhomme took that bunch to the playoffs a couple times.

10/7/2013 1:38:43 PM

Man, I'd take those Delhomme/Fox teams back in a second.

I didn't appreciate the success they had nearly enough while it was happening.

Quote :

"All I'm going to say is that it's amazing what a head coach can do. I'm a KC fan, and the difference between that team under Reid and that team under Crennel is night and day. Alex Smith is putting up about the most mediocre QB play you can imagine, but the execution on both sides of the ball is lightyears ahead of where it was, and the players don't look lost out there."

That type of turnaround gives me hope that, given the right hire, we can improve by leaps and bounds next season.

[Edited on October 7, 2013 at 1:43 PM. Reason : .]

10/7/2013 1:41:36 PM

It helps when your team has talent. The Chiefs had 6 pro bowlers in 2013, that's how shitty the coaching was. By contrast the Panthers had none. This year I think it's pretty likely that they have at least 2, but even without a wealth of pro bowlers there is still clearly talent on the defensive side of the ball and a couple of good offensive players. Newton and Olsen are nice, Smith is still a WR1 on almost any team, so there is something to work with.

10/7/2013 1:54:33 PM

an even better example than the Chiefs is the 49ers dumping Singletary and hiring Harbaugh, who took almost the same roster to the Super Bowl

10/7/2013 2:00:55 PM

Greg Hardy rejected extension, according to report

http://www.catscratchreader.com/2013/10/7/4812380/greg-hardy-rejected-extension-panthers

10/7/2013 2:04:56 PM

I'd get away from this shit team as fast as I could too

10/7/2013 2:27:11 PM

He's worth more than 8/year

Not to mention he and CJ share an agent so you know he wants to be in that ballpark.

10/7/2013 3:19:16 PM

the whole team will become Julius Peppers after a while. want to get the hell out.

Quote :

"Man, I'd take those Delhomme/Fox teams back in a second. I didn't appreciate the success they had nearly enough while it was happening."

those were just as tragic. lot of end of game field goals. monster runner game. too many miracle plays that came back to bite us in the end. delhomme hitting the dirt if he couldnt throw up a prayer. team playing over their heads to get put out by a way superior team in the playoffs. revisionist history

[Edited on October 7, 2013 at 4:19 PM. Reason : dd]

10/7/2013 4:14:41 PM

while the current regime sucks, fuck those fox/delhomme teams. only 3 playoff berths, 1 super bowl, and 1 ass whipping at home as a #2 seed by the fucking cardinals. so much wasted talent, terrible coaching, etc. nothing sticks worse (besides getting Kasay'd in the Super Bowl) than the 2004 season where they started 1-7, came back to 7-8, and lost to the fucking saints in a "win in you're in" game.

10/7/2013 4:18:40 PM

no lie I would take a superbowl run any day. but we had Stepen davis as a running back. stud. a bowling ball down the field. top 5 defense. and delhomey just throwing the ball super long down the field like he was Brett Favre lite.

our receivers can't run routes. o line is better than before and still terrible. cam isn't accurate enough.
front 7 is good but are on the field too long. secondary is still swiss cheese.

pretty much the same team I ve been looking at for years. doesn't surprise me.

[Edited on October 7, 2013 at 4:30 PM. Reason : dd]

10/7/2013 4:26:47 PM

I still wish we had Shockey

10/7/2013 4:30:29 PM

I think Shula was a huge mistake.

The first couple of drives were clearly scripted before the game, and they looked sharp and crisp, they were almost perfect other than the drops. But after he ran out of scripted plays he has no idea what he's doing.

10/7/2013 11:16:34 PM

Maybe he should script a full 75 then next week so there's no worry of running out of scripted ones

10/7/2013 11:21:30 PM

delhomme was a shit qb 90% of the game but he owned in the 2 minute drill

cam is an ok to good qb 80% of the game but he sucks balls when the chips are on the line and he has to stand in the pocket and complete passes to win us games. i blame the vast majority of the 2-14 close game record on rivera but cam has to own some of that as well

10/8/2013 12:21:46 AM

Every would-be game winning drive Cam has had is squandered by the defense no matter how little time is on the clock.

10/8/2013 7:41:32 AM

and every would-be great 2nd half performance by the defense has been ruined by crushing INTs by cam

10/8/2013 9:23:18 AM