Maybe they just forgot about how much republicans LOVE Obama or maybe those Obama Trump voters forgot how much they loved Obama back in 2012. Its like they don't realize Obama will always be as popular as he was in 2008.

But you got this all wrong anyway because you forgot who the audience is. Framing Biden as Obama was not designed to do what you think it was designed to do. It was designed to persuade people who saw Obama as an extremist but view Biden as a "moderate". It was made to frame Biden as a real and formidable threat.

If I'm going up against the Cavs, convincing my team that Collin Sexton is basically the new Lebron James will get them fired up and ready to show up. You're saying "you don't want cleveland to have Lebron". The Cleveland fans are already fired up though because of who is on our team.

To reframe it, How many democrats who aren't planning on voting because Biden is not Obama enough would vote because they heard that he was like Obama on foxnews?

5/11/2020 12:57:27 PM

tRuMp Is StIlL pLaYiNg ChEsS

5/11/2020 12:58:52 PM

Yo that press conference was wild. Funniest ending I've ever seen. Heres a few highlights off the top of my head. They poke him a little bit and he hits back but if they keep poking him, he eventually breaks down. It seems like he has a meltdown like once every 5 of these.

NYT: You said Obama committed a crime. What crime are you accusing him of?
Trump: Its obvious. You know what the crime was. Anyone would know what the crime was if they read the newspapers....except yours because yours is fake news

Asian reporter: Why do you keep bragging about us having the best testing as if its a global competition when 80,000 Americans are dead and more are dying everyday?

Trump: Because its true we are doing better than other countries and every country has deaths. Even CHY-NA. Why don't you go ask that question to CHY-NA? Don't ask me. Ask CHY-NA Next question (points at Kaitlyn collins)

Kaitlin Collins: (Stands up)

Asian reporter: Why are you asking that question to ME?

Trump: Because its a nasty question and when you ask a nasty question thats the answer you get. Next question (points back to Kaitlyn)

Asian reporter: But its not a nasty question

Kaitlyn: Differs to let the other reporter finish

Trump: OK Next question to the other reporter in the back

Kaitlyn: I have two questions

Trump: Nope. You had your chance and you didn't respond so we're moving on

Kaitlyn: (starts to ask question)

Trump: Ok ladies and gentlemen thank you and goodbye

5/11/2020 5:30:04 PM

We are reaching new levels of unhinged at almost every press conference. Hard to believe it can keep escalating like this all the way to November, but its gonna.

Funny is not even close to the word I would use.

[Edited on May 11, 2020 at 5:35 PM. Reason : .]

5/11/2020 5:33:42 PM

Kinda nuts the President has tantrums live on tv and news media still have to try to analyze his statements, instead of calling him nuts.

5/11/2020 5:45:28 PM

Both sides, man!

5/11/2020 7:02:40 PM

I took a moment to look at Trump’s twitter. That is arguably the most unhinged I’ve ever witnessed a single individual. Casually lumps all Asian, and Chinese Americans, as being the most mad at China for Wuhan. Retweets a post suggesting that republicans should engage in voter fraud. Non-stop Obamagate fear mongering. Heavily implies that Nancy Pelosi is a communist. And all of that was within one hour..

I’m becoming more concerned about how he’d respond after a lost election.

5/12/2020 11:12:18 AM

Whatever he does, it'll be ok because some Clinton staffers took the Ws off a couple of keyboards.

5/12/2020 11:23:44 AM

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/05/11/republicans-have-already-decided-trump-is-going-lose/

I thought this was a pretty good analysis of the sudden republican concern about deficit spending.

5/12/2020 11:44:46 AM

I read that last night and it seemed more thought out and probable than most opinion pieces. It also lends credibility that politicians are more actively engaged in making the other side fail than they are doing what they can to improve the standing of their constituents.

Oh, and the other thing that I thought was comical is that Trump tweeted that states couldn’t be successful without the help and aid of the federal government, which is not only laughable given the lack of guidance provided but also from the lens of republican dogma.

5/12/2020 11:52:27 AM

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"It also lends credibility that politicians are more actively engaged in making the other side fail than they are doing what they can to improve the standing of their constituents."

Isn't that Mitch McConnell in a nutshell?



[Edited on May 12, 2020 at 12:44 PM. Reason : .]

5/12/2020 12:42:32 PM

The both sides thing doesn't work here because the default is already republican. We are already in GOPville so when Mitch slashes the tires on our bus, we are stuck in GOPville. Its only one group of constituents who want to get in the bus and go somewhere. Republican voters WANT a crippled federal government.

5/12/2020 12:50:25 PM

Good read
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/may/12/what-is-obamagate-and-why-is-trump-so-worked-up-about-it

Quote :

"So what exact crime is Trump accusing Obama of committing? The president himself does not seem to know. “‘Obamagate’,” he ruminated in the White House rose garden on Monday. “It’s been going on for a long time. It’s been going on from before I even got elected. And it’s a disgrace that it happened.” Asked by a Washington Post reporter for the second time to name Obama’s exact offence, Trump replied cryptically: “You know what the crime is. The crime is very obvious to everybody. All you have to do is read the newspapers, except yours.”"

5/13/2020 12:38:39 PM

It’s a distraction away from the pandemic.

It really is a national scandal that we essentially wasted 2 months of good behavior by nearly all Americans and still have no hope of a robust national testing and tracing system. It’s impossible to have that at a state level unless we institute hard borders at state lines.

This is being highlighted by today’s congressional testimony.

5/14/2020 11:11:08 AM

https://www.npr.org/2020/05/14/855903107/court-allows-emoluments-case-against-trump-over-d-c-hotel-to-proceed

5/14/2020 1:07:54 PM

https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/1262473293740867584?s=21

Lol. In which Donald Trump tries to make a dementia joke about Biden but then forgets who he was talking about and says Obama.

5/18/2020 4:11:35 PM

claims he's taking hydroxychloroquine

bet he dodges every question about that one

5/18/2020 5:34:55 PM

I mean we should default to just accepting he’s lying when ever he says anything but even moreso in this case.

He isn’t. Period.

5/18/2020 5:40:52 PM

Horosho why is it good that he’s either taking this or lying about taking it?

5/18/2020 7:47:38 PM

This guy is going all in on politics. What about the people that died swallowing fish cleaner because it had chloroquine in it.

5/18/2020 8:02:09 PM

By end of this week - media is lying I never said I was taking it. I was being sarcastic.

5/18/2020 8:19:04 PM

This pompeo ig thing is interesting

First they leaked it was about improper use of an assistant

Now it’s leaked it has something to do with pompeos weapons deal with Saudi Arabia

Meanwhile trump spews more nonsense about hydroxychloroquine that the media has latched on to.

On top of multiple IGs being fired over the past few weeks, and trump saying they all should be fired, and corona deaths just crossed 90,000, and no oversight or accountability processes getting accurate information out to the people. If you were reading about this happening in another country you’d think they were on the verge of collapse...

5/18/2020 9:14:35 PM

5/18/2020 10:22:38 PM

Interesting that the doctors note doesn't actually say he is taking it

5/18/2020 10:33:53 PM

https://twitter.com/sarahcpr/status/1262583362079936512?s=21

I just saw he started out by saying he wasn’t taking it, then says he is. Seems clearly like this was all a lie... amazing someone can lie so casually like this and people still trust him.

5/19/2020 12:10:50 AM

Quote :

"Horosho why is it good that he’s either taking this or lying about taking it?"

The same reason why he's been hyping up the drug all along. It sells the idea of a breakthrough that will make this whole thing pass and help us get back to normal.

What better way to squash the narrative that he doesn't care about what happens to people who take this drug than to take the drug himself?

If it ends up working, he will look like a genius and savior, but if it doesn't work, he will look like a brave leader who volunteered himself as tribute. Plus he gets the media into a new frenzy. Easy win-win-win.

5/19/2020 2:56:11 AM

I have heard no such narrative that he doesn’t care what happens to people that take the drug.

5/19/2020 4:40:12 AM

Yeah I didn’t mean why is this good game theory (it’s not, but don’t respond to this because I don’t care), I mean why do you think it’s good for the world as opposed to bad.

5/19/2020 7:37:38 AM

Trump has never cared about anyone besides himself and Ivanka in his entire life.

If the media did their job in 2016 everyone would know that.

5/19/2020 9:08:39 AM

How did you know I thought it was good for the world without it being obvious to you? How could it be bad for the world?

Its good for the world in the same way the clinical trials of the drug are good for the world. He's like a marketing campaign for the clinical trials and if they turn out positive results, everyone would already know of someone who used the drug so the fear of conspiracy would be diminished. He always talks about giving people hope well now he is part of the fight.

and you know the fluoride people are going to say the first treatment is really just a mind control trojan horse so he's helping curb that if this turns out to be the one.

5/19/2020 10:49:44 AM

Fuck off, contrarian ass.

5/19/2020 11:33:27 AM

His physician released a letter about Trump claiming he is taking HCQ, but it is vague and doesn't even confirm that he is taking it.

Let's chalk it up to one of the 18,000+ lies he has told so far.

5/19/2020 2:32:06 PM

"No, you're a terrible reporter, just terrible. What I said is that I am taking it seriously. There's a big difference, you know. But, you wouldn't know that because you work for fake news."

5/19/2020 2:51:01 PM

Quote :

"How did you know I thought it was good for the world without it being obvious to you?"

I knew because you default to him being smart and/or right on basically every single thing he does these days. How is that not obvious to you is the question.

[Edited on May 19, 2020 at 3:50 PM. Reason : t]

5/19/2020 3:41:29 PM

"Smart" and "good for the world" are two different things.

I feel like most of the things Trump does that people talk about don't really affect the world at all outside of perception which affects his campaign chances. This mostly goes into that group along with all the tweets and off the cuff comments that don't have any real teeth and don't change anything for anyone other than the narrative.

I could see an argument where someone who thinks his health and safety is critical to national security and anything that increases risk for him in the slightest is dangerous for the country. The problem with that argument is that most of the people inclined to make it have spent the last 4 years arguing that he himself is the actual biggest threat to national security.

The only Trump things I can remember thinking were good for the world was a few early foreign policy things like leaving Russia and Syria alone and also meeting with North Korea. Everything else I thought was bad for the world or meaningless. Otherwise, you might have me mistaken for someone else.

Any NYM, all I did was answer a question that was specifically addressed to me so I don't get why you are upset that my answer was different than yours. I'd rather just talk about the drug than Trump but you didn't even say anything and just vented anger so I don't even know which part you disagree with.

[Edited on May 19, 2020 at 5:12 PM. Reason : now you're suddenly worried about a small chance of losing trump]

5/19/2020 5:09:15 PM

Quote :

"I feel like most of the things Trump does that people talk about don't really affect the world at all outside of perception which affects his campaign chances"

Except that it's the most hateful, divisive rhetoric that I have ever seen from any president in my entire life, and it has without a doubt inspired a ton of hateful and bigoted outburst from the general white population.


[Edited on May 19, 2020 at 10:36 PM. Reason : h]

5/19/2020 10:33:12 PM

Quote :

"The only Trump things I can remember thinking were good for the world was a few early foreign policy things like leaving Russia and Syria alone"

Trump abandons Syria = smart decision

Obama pulls out of Afghanistan = that liberal fucking coward

5/19/2020 10:35:13 PM

https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1263081823812366338?s=21

This is legitimately psychopath type stuff. Say what you want about Biden’s mental acuity but this is strait jacket, lock him up to protect himself type of psychosis.

If your grandfather (or let’s face it, we are old now... father) started ranting like this everyone on here would be sadly examining old-age homes.

And the previous Michigan tweet is probably worse. Just straight lies and authoritarianism.

[Edited on May 20, 2020 at 8:26 AM. Reason : X]

5/20/2020 8:24:25 AM

His China one just now is worse

5/20/2020 8:42:53 AM

He's on a real rant today. Either he missed his cup of coffee or something else is about to go down.

5/20/2020 10:28:37 AM

The most dangerous thing he's done to date I Think is threatening to pull funding from democratic states that do mail in ballots. This is the most direct threat to the fabric of our democracy that trump has done yet.

5/20/2020 10:35:14 AM

I'm still on the drug thing because no one explained why they are angry about it and it really bugs me when something completely rational happens, the media freaks out and then everyone starts freaking out but no one really knows why they are angry. Manufactured outrage.

I got the chance to login to facebook and from the posts I'm seeing, its definitely looking like its all just media-induced hysteria. Most people seem to be mad because they think people will all go take the drug now. Well it is a prescription-only drug and Trump definitely didn't insinuate that it should be done without consultation of a doctor because he went through his doctors and asked if they could prescribe it.

CNN's coverage seems to give the impression that the drug is dangerous which is not true considering it has many uses.

Quote :

"Take this medication by mouth, usually with food to prevent stomach upset, exactly as directed by your doctor. The dosage and length of treatment are based on your medical condition and response to treatment. In children, dosage is also based on weight. To prevent malaria, take this medication by mouth as directed by your doctor, usually once a week on the same day each week. Mark a calendar to help you remember. This drug is usually started 1 to 2 weeks before entering the malarious area. Continue to take it weekly while in the area and for 4 to 8 weeks after leaving the area, or as directed by your doctor. To treat malaria, follow your doctor's instructions. For lupus or rheumatoid arthritis, take this medication by mouth as directed by your doctor, usually once or twice daily. Your doctor may gradually increase your dose. Once you have been taking the medication for a while and your condition has improved, your doctor may instruct you to lower your dose until you find the dose that works best with the fewest side effects."

This is one of the drugs people refer to as "malaria pills". I've never taken them because I didn't want side-effects but the doctors always prescribed me to take them when traveling to malaria hot zones. Every traveler I came across was taking them and thought I was stupid to not take them but I was worried they wouldn't mix well with drugs and alcohol, and really didn't want bad dreams on top of that. Every drug has side-effects but the media is acting like this drug will is unreasonably dangerous.

The only thing left uncovered is that it isn't proven to prevent COVID. Nothing is. I don't see why trying it out makes people angry though. You have to think about why its ok for people to take unproven drugs in a clinical trial. Its because they are being closely monitored. Well the president is always closely monitored. He's not a normal person. If it goes wrong, he will know immediately.

Quote :

"Obama pulls out of Afghanistan = that liberal fucking coward"

You are definitely mixing me up with someone else and should avoid letting other people tell you who I am. I am EXTREMELY anti-war and have opposed American involvement in every foreign war we've been in. I would have been calling Obama that name for not COMPLETELY pulling out of Afghanistan and ending the whole war plus the iraq war like he said he would.

[Edited on May 20, 2020 at 10:49 AM. Reason : so that was a fucking lie]

5/20/2020 10:43:34 AM

Find anything in your life to love as much as Earl likes writing novels on TWW defending Trump, whom he definitely does not support.

5/20/2020 10:58:40 AM

^ i don't read 90% of his posts, but the same mental gymnastics he uses are the ones Trump supporters use too, it's sometimes useful to spell out how these cult members are thinkign

5/20/2020 11:00:18 AM

I mean, I guess it’s good to get different opinions on things and he does parrot some of the things I see on the far left and from MAGA-world. He even flushes it out a bit more than you can get on twitter.

But at the end of the day it’s mostly trolling disguised as contrarianism.

5/20/2020 11:02:05 AM

Regardless of what it is or what you think it is i'm doing, you should be able to explain why you think something is bad. Forget about other opinions until you can articulate why your opinions are what they are.

5/20/2020 11:13:06 AM

I haven’t articulated what I think about him taking that drug aside from initially saying it was likely a lie.

I do think it’s pointless and stupid to take something that actually does have potential negative side effects for people like Trump who have pre-existing heart conditions (according to the drunk piece of shit ex-WH physician) when there is no proof at all it works as a preventative... but that isn’t what you’ve posted about.

5/20/2020 11:20:14 AM

Quote :

" no one explained why they are angry about it "

Nobody on this page said they were angry. If you questions for angry people fuck off and go ask them wherever they are

Quote :

"You are definitely mixing me up with someone else "

Alanis Morissette style irony here

[Edited on May 20, 2020 at 11:25 AM. Reason : E]

5/20/2020 11:23:41 AM

On another note, from previous page

Quote :

"For starters, you don't want your leader projecting weakness of any sort on the world stage "

Bolsonaro is a horrible fascist, former military leader, and even more committed to downplaying covid then Trump. But there is a picture of him masked up.

5/20/2020 11:31:39 AM

So either we can't protect the president to the point where he feels the need to take an unproven drug that could have serious complications and side effects, or he is lying about it.

So either scenario is a bad look.

5/20/2020 11:36:49 AM