^^^ i thought that was Dennis Hopper

7/28/2011 9:32:12 PM

Quote :

"Meyer won't even begin to listen for less than 4 million/yr. No way they'll pay that for football."

not to mention the fact that Meyer wouldn't consider a schooooo that's about to get some sanctions...why would he choose UNC when he could literally coach at any school of his choosing?

7/28/2011 10:40:28 PM

i think i just ran out of popcorn

7/28/2011 11:02:18 PM

Lolwut

http://www.tweetdeck.com/twitter/ArmstrongWTVD/~gTu7z

7/29/2011 12:11:44 AM

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/football/ncaa/07/28/butch-davis-unc/index.html?sct=cf_bf2_a3

Quote :

"Irreparable damage has been done to UNC's image. Long thought as a basketball school with high academic integrity, the university is now the basketball school that tried at football and dirtied itself all the while. Originally intended to be the bastion of things to come for the program, the Blue Zone is now a scarlet letter on the university; an albatross around its neck. No, Davis will never see the $73 million check. But UNC will surely feel the pain. "

[Edited on July 29, 2011 at 12:37 AM. Reason : s]

7/29/2011 12:37:37 AM

this could be the best thread ever posted

7/29/2011 1:58:49 AM

So the anchorman deleted his twitter account. CONSPIRACY!!!11

7/29/2011 7:33:35 AM

i'm weighing the pros and cons of all this for unc

and a big 'pro' that sticks out in my mind on this timing is = they keep all these recruits now. where are they gonna go? if they fired butch in january they risk losing a bunch of guys. now they keep them. :/

sorry to be a downer with all this 'good' news

7/29/2011 9:25:18 AM

^The other pro being they got to sell lots of tickets before their fan base knew that they planned on firing Davis.

Fire him in January like they should have? They'd probably lose ticket revenue. In light of the NCAA investigation it's not like they could have landed a big time coach in the spring that would have sold seats. They sold as many seats as they could with the best coach / season outlook that they could achieve given their circumstances, then pulled the trigger.

7/29/2011 9:35:33 AM

The timing certainly makes more sense now knowing that UNC got all but one recruit enrolled into summer school and secured non-refundable season ticket payments recently, both things they couldn't have really done without Butch.

7/29/2011 9:55:56 AM

I would imagine this recruiting issue is simply the result of the new BOT, not a driving factor for the decision.

7/29/2011 10:02:40 AM

So how about that Withers promotion?

Good because they have to replace their defensive coordinator AGAIN?


Or AWESOME because their offensive coordinator still gets to call bonehead plays?

7/29/2011 10:20:15 AM

7/29/2011 10:24:29 AM

yeh i mean it obviously sucks to have the rug pulled out from under the head coach with only days b4 kickoff.

but man, they have their whole squad, an interim they are happy with, and now all this investigation mess behind them somewhat

we better not doubt them 1 bit in november and come ready as ever. hopefully mike glennon has enough reps and experience to be ready.

7/29/2011 10:26:55 AM

there isnt a single part of the investigation that is behind them now

The firing of Butch might even make the NCAA ruling worse for UNC since they have claimed throughout the process that he wasnt involved

7/29/2011 10:55:26 AM

Quote :

"but man, they have their whole squad, an interim they are happy with, and now all this investigation mess behind them somewhat"

Are they really happy with the interim?

One of my favorite things to think about in all this is how low morale must be on the team. Players loyal to Butch (if there are any) are pissed at his firing, everyone else is just pissed at the timing. And they can't blame the NCAA for that, it's all directed at their own school.

The top players should all be angry they were lied to and all wish they could transfer out.
The team as a whole must really be disheartened by how many fans are talking about selling their seats and boycotting the program.

It's going to be a rough year for UNC football. Last year they were fighting "adversity" with innocent Butch leading the way against the big bad NCAA.

This year they're only fighting themselves.

7/29/2011 11:13:12 AM

NPR talking about Pack Pride and UNC right now

lol

7/29/2011 12:28:40 PM

Quote :

"but man, they have their whole squad, an interim they are happy with, and now all this investigation mess behind them somewhat"

This is, like, 100% incorrect.

7/29/2011 12:36:23 PM

Quote :

"NPR talking about Pack Pride and UNC right now lol "

7/29/2011 12:41:30 PM

^link?

Found it on WUNC (not technically NPR) on the state of things.

http://wunc.org/tsot/archive/tar-heels-down/view

[Edited on July 29, 2011 at 1:13 PM. Reason : link]

7/29/2011 1:06:50 PM

What'd they say?

7/29/2011 1:53:12 PM

probably something about all the PP posters being geniuses

7/29/2011 1:58:37 PM

They gave them a lot of credit actually.

7/29/2011 2:03:24 PM

Quote :

" This is, like, 100% incorrect. "

who have they lost because of what happened yesterday? name somebody. just 1. that's it.

make sure you don't answer the question directly with a players name.

7/29/2011 2:24:41 PM

stop dude. just, stop

7/29/2011 2:26:37 PM

stop being such a pack_bryan

7/29/2011 2:27:51 PM

exactly

7/29/2011 2:31:52 PM

they have their whole squad because of their dirty dealing, man. None of the players could defect, because NCAA rules wouldn't allow it this late in the game. TO say they "they have their whole squad" is to be willfully dishonest and ignorant. That's like saying that nobody hates prison, because so few people leave daily

7/29/2011 3:12:05 PM

the biggest people laughing at this, besides us, are Miami fans.

This is the Holy Butch Davis that lied to them, to their collective faces. There's probably been a lot of Haitian chicken sacrifices to bring about what happened this past year. That's why I don't feel sorry for any recruits or the fans or the school. They knew exactly what they were getting with this character (cast of characters).

7/29/2011 3:21:05 PM

Quote :

"Haitian chicken sacrifices "

lmao

7/29/2011 3:29:59 PM

Quote :

"Haitian chicken sacrifices"

This inspired me to use MS Paint for like 5 minutes. Someone actually good at this stuff could surely do better.



Now to see if Flickr likes hotlinking.

7/29/2011 3:53:58 PM

Absolute gems this afternoon: http://twitter.com/#!/search/realtime/%40chanthorp

Quote :

" @chanthorp take responsibility for the academic support scandal and resign. Be a man Holden. Have some integrity."

These UNC fans still believe that Butch knew NOTHING about the cheating yet they want to blame the Chancellor and say it was his fault?

7/29/2011 3:54:22 PM

Their perspective is that Thorp is in charge of academics at the school, Davis athletics (at least football), and that Davis isn't supposed to know what type of papers his players "write" or plagiarize or whatever, and I understand that

The problem however, is that the papers were written by his own fucking nanny...and of course he obviously knew about Blake, agents, gifts, etc

7/29/2011 4:17:39 PM

Even more embarrassing is that the majority of them (at least the vocal ones) believe the it wasn't his responsibility to know about, control, or punish the cheating, the improper benefits, or anything negative.

That makes UNC the best coaching job... ever! No real responsibility, no accountability, and an almost inappropriate level of fan love. Just hire a sketchy ass crew of assistants and tutors and don't make any calls on your own phone.

7/29/2011 4:24:18 PM

They're fucking idiots for a lack of a better term. Professors at UNC have come out and said that they feel that the athletics department meddles too much in the academics of the student-athletes, and have even tried to convince honor court members to lessen penalties on student-athletes that have presented to them for academic misconduct.

7/29/2011 4:37:47 PM

^^

"How could the coach know what is going on in the lives of all these players?"

"The chancellor should know what is going on in the lives of every single student!"

At least they aren't denying the players did anything wrong anymore.

7/29/2011 4:49:48 PM

Quote :

"That makes UNC the best coaching job... ever! No real responsibility, no accountability, and an almost inappropriate level of fan love. Just hire a sketchy ass crew of assistants and tutors and don't make any calls on your own phone."

Not to mention you only have to average ~7 wins a year and a sub .500 conference record to be idolized.

[Edited on July 29, 2011 at 5:11 PM. Reason : And no top 25 finishes]

7/29/2011 5:11:33 PM

Wait. So the head football coach doesn't know that a tutor personally employed by him is writing papers for his players? And his associate head coach(friend for 20+ years) is funneling money to his players?


Sounds like he should be fired for being inept. Or....

7/29/2011 5:11:42 PM

so who's gonna be the sacrificial coach who's task will be to run a clean program for the next 5 years? Or are they just gonna stick with Withers and then throw him under the bus later?

[Edited on July 29, 2011 at 5:24 PM. Reason : ]

7/29/2011 5:22:00 PM

goodnight, sweet prince

[Edited on July 29, 2011 at 5:52 PM. Reason : .]

7/29/2011 5:27:25 PM

bring im back

7/30/2011 12:38:40 PM

plz dont, he cares about the state game

7/30/2011 4:05:43 PM

7/30/2011 4:07:16 PM

Yeah I'm good to leave bunting out of this scenario. Dude LOVES to beat us.

7/30/2011 4:35:06 PM

"I can't keep up with 27,000 students either"

7/30/2011 5:08:37 PM

If I was to envision the chancellor of UNC, he would look EXACTLY like holden thorpe.

7/31/2011 4:40:17 PM

why did the quote "yes" there?

7/31/2011 7:53:47 PM

The beautiful thing about all of this: Thorpe has become the bad guy in the eyes of the UNC fan.

And now, with Butch being fired, he has somehow escaped all of the scrutiny that he deserves. Instead of fans saying "good riddance" to a coach who single-handedly wrecked the Football program and brought shame to their academic integrity, fans are going to point to Chancellor Thorp as the root cause of their troubles. Football players cheating on tests? Blame Thorp. Football team loses a game? Blame Thorp. Basketball team starting to underperform? Blame Thorp. Roy wants to retire? Blame Thorp. Hurricane off the coast? Blame Thorp. Swine Flu? Blame Thorp.

UNC finally has their Lee Fowler. A fall guy to blame for all of their institutional weaknesses. And the best part? He's not going anywhere. He will always be there to shoulder the blame of things beyond his control. While the football program falls back to the bottom of the ACC barrel, Thorp will be there to catch all of the criticism from the lay fan. And boy oh boy, are there a lot of lay UNC fans.

OH. MY. DAD! I can seriously see this starting a civil war among UNC supporters. I hope this happens.

7/31/2011 9:02:56 PM

Deems May's letter on IC has a level of butthurtness that is simply delicious

http://northcarolina.scout.com/2/1091090.html#.Tja6zDqMQHI.twitter

I love how he says "de-emphasize" 8 times and talks of gutting the team another 4

comes off like a bitch "oh it's so hard for me, and ex-NFL player, to afford the scholarship endowment and luxury box we want"

[Edited on August 1, 2011 at 11:51 AM. Reason : .]

8/1/2011 11:48:08 AM

Deems May clearly benefited from a Swahili type class. He talks tough on IC and that rinky-dink radio show he does but then goes on local sports talk radio and sounds pretty neutral (neutered) to me. The ^ deliciousness you mentioned is even funnier considering Deems is the guy who became the IC superhero on why Butch could never be fired because "they were not going to go back to getting 'skull-drug' around the football field." That asshat is eating those words right now.

8/1/2011 12:14:42 PM