TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148354 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "The only reason these days I can understand a need to swap/pull a battery is if the battery no longer works and you need a replacement." |
eh, i guess it still remains you need to carry something with you, be it a spare battery, or one of those chargers4/20/2013 12:46:12 AM |
ssclark Black and Proud 14179 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "remember the last time I had a battery issue that required a replacement..." |
I've had to replace my thunderbolt battery twice since it came out4/20/2013 1:29:33 AM |
quagmire02 All American 44225 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "The only reason these days I can understand a need to swap/pull a battery is if the battery no longer works and you need a replacement. But I can't *knock on wood* remember the last time I had a battery issue that required a replacement" |
and that's great for you (and many others)...you are an example of why they release phones with fixed batteries...and you'll suck it up and deal if it turns out that your battery goes to crap outside of your warranty (or you'll risk screwing up your phone trying to get it open)
as noted, some of us do things or have lifestyles where having the ability to pull the battery or replace the battery is a desirable feature...ignoring the fact that batteries are probably the most problematic part of portable electronics (ie. it's the part that most frequently goes "bad"), i like the freedom afforded me by being able to replace a relatively cheap component, or carry a lightweight replacement in the event that i'm going somewhere i may not be able to charge my phone (ie. backpacking when i use my phone as a GPS and/or datalogger)
i'm with neodata686...i want user-replaceable/removable batteries and storage...and i'll gladly deal with a slightly larger (though it shouldn't add much - if any - weight) phone for those "features"
[Edited on April 20, 2013 at 10:29 AM. Reason : .]4/20/2013 10:16:30 AM |
neodata686 All American 11577 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "and i'll gladly deal with a slightly larger" |
Although in this case the GS4 is about the same size/thinner than the HTC One and has a larger screen.
I still stand by my point. Having to use one of those auxiliary power supplies is a pain and something people are forced to do because they don't have a user replaceable battery. I used one when I had an iPhone and I'm much happier being able to swap out a battery. Spending 15-20 seconds swapping out a battery is much better than waiting for a battery to recharge using a device that has to be physically attached to you phone. I don't care if I'm sitting on a plane I don't want something attached to my phone while I'm trying to use it.4/20/2013 12:22:32 PM |
synapse play so hard 60935 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "some of us do things or have lifestyles where having the ability to pull the battery or replace the battery is a desirable feature" |
+14/20/2013 4:48:46 PM |
dmidkiff All American 3324 Posts user info edit post |
Biggest complaint about the One-Blinkfeed can't be disabled (yet). Also, when you log into the Facebook app, it syncs your friend's timeline photos into your photo gallery (also can't be disabled yet). Otherwise pretty happy so far after 4 days of hard use. 4/21/2013 11:41:12 AM |
puck_it All American 15446 Posts user info edit post |
Why don't you use a launcher replacement, like nova launcher? Bye blink feed 4/21/2013 12:19:15 PM |
quagmire02 All American 44225 Posts user info edit post |
nova is my favorite, hands down...picked up prime (the "pro" version) for $0.25 when it was on sale 4/21/2013 2:11:23 PM |
puck_it All American 15446 Posts user info edit post |
IMO, even the $4 is worth it. 4/21/2013 5:19:08 PM |
synapse play so hard 60935 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Does anyone else have issues sending MMS messages (pictures) while connected to WiFi?
I'm noticing this while at home. I get "Message Not Sent" until I disconnect from WiFi. What gives?" |
FYI enabling "Data Roaming" appears to have fixed this issue for me.4/21/2013 8:53:00 PM |
dmidkiff All American 3324 Posts user info edit post |
I forgot about Nova-will have to try and catch it if it goes on sale. The speakers on this thing are INSANE!
[Edited on April 21, 2013 at 10:24 PM. Reason : The free version is pretty damn good] 4/21/2013 10:21:49 PM |
puck_it All American 15446 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah the free version should be more than sufficient. 4/22/2013 12:04:31 AM |
prep-e All American 4843 Posts user info edit post |
Anyone else get the HTC One? I think this is the most satisfied I've ever been with any electronic purchase to date. 4/23/2013 4:01:12 PM |
stowaway All American 11770 Posts user info edit post |
I got the One late last week. First android phone but I've had a tablet for 2ish years (HC and now ICS). Some things I got used to doing on the tablet are different enough to cause me to think for a second on the phone, and I don't like the lack of notifications popping up on the screen when in standby compared to iOS. Screen looks great, feels nice, battery life seems decent, no complaints about the actual device on my end. 4/23/2013 4:23:33 PM |
neodata686 All American 11577 Posts user info edit post |
I'm on my 6th week on the road. Probably swap out my battery at least twice a week and have my 64GB external card loaded up with a bunch of FLAC/lossless music, 720p tv shows, and movies for airplanes and car trips.
Just played with an HTC One. I like it but still couldn't get one. Too crippled IMO without the exchangeable battery or SD slot. 4/23/2013 5:42:58 PM |
quagmire02 All American 44225 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I don't like the lack of notifications popping up on the screen when in standby compared to iOS." |
what do you mean by this? examples?4/23/2013 6:34:51 PM |
stowaway All American 11770 Posts user info edit post |
on the One I get the notification sound and led but on screen there's nothing telling me what the notification actually is about. on iOS it would display the text message or email subject or whatever and ask slide to read/reply. So far I haven't found the setting on the One that would let me get something similar. It was handy when I had the phone on my desk or in my pocket and could quickly glance when I heard/felt a notification and decide if I wanted to deal with it or not. Obviously if the phone is being used I get the notification message at the top.
Like shown http://photos.appleinsider.com/ios5b2-110625-1.png.
[Edited on April 23, 2013 at 6:47 PM. Reason : [Edited on April 23, 2013 at 6:47 PM. Reason : afd]] 4/23/2013 6:45:48 PM |
quagmire02 All American 44225 Posts user info edit post |
^ yeah, that's definitely changeable...i'm on JB and use GO SMS and it lights up the screen when i get a text and i can respond to it without unlocking 4/23/2013 6:48:57 PM |
BigMan157 no u 103353 Posts user info edit post |
http://lifehacker.com/5989156/notification-lockscreen-widget-for-android-does-exactly-what-it-sounds-like 4/23/2013 10:28:44 PM |
BigMan157 no u 103353 Posts user info edit post |
reading reviews i'm leaning more towards the one than the s4 :/
come on google i/o, big money no whammies 4/25/2013 11:24:34 AM |
mildew Drunk yet Orderly 14177 Posts user info edit post |
Anyone else have issues with Swype on TWW? It does not auto-space and capitalizes every word when I write a post. The browser is interpreting the text-entry box as something different. 4/25/2013 11:34:41 AM |
synapse play so hard 60935 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "reading reviews i'm leaning more towards the one than the s4 :/" |
When are you due for an upgrade?
I'm liking what I'm reading about the One, and can do without sd cards, but I'm just not sure I can do without swapping batteries. On every Android device I'd had so far, I've "needed" to swap batteries, or at least I find it very convenient.
For you One owners, can you compare the battery life compared to past Android devices you've owned?
[Edited on April 25, 2013 at 11:57 AM. Reason : ^ dunno I use Swiftkey]4/25/2013 11:57:13 AM |
quagmire02 All American 44225 Posts user info edit post |
my wife's phone (which is running stock and unrooted) locked up yesterday...battery was low and it freaked somehow when she plugged it in to charge
might have been an app that caused the problem, or just a hiccup in android...but it wouldn't respond to a reboot, so i had to do a battery pull
point is, no way i'd give up that flexibility...smartphones are still computers, and they screw up at times...and sometimes the best way to fix it is to pull the power 4/25/2013 12:02:03 PM |
neodata686 All American 11577 Posts user info edit post |
HTC One looks to be pretty decent. Falls in the upper middle for battery life:
4/25/2013 12:27:11 PM |
synapse play so hard 60935 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "smartphones are still computers, and they screw up at times...and sometimes the best way to fix it is to pull the power" |
iPhones don't require battery pulls. How do they get around it?4/25/2013 12:41:38 PM |
neodata686 All American 11577 Posts user info edit post |
Somethings they get bricked. Otherwise they require you to plug it into a computer and boot it from there. PITA. 4/25/2013 12:48:20 PM |
gs7 All American 2354 Posts user info edit post |
So far with my HTC One, I've been getting roughly 16 hours of battery with normal daily usage (which varies for everyone, of course) ... and by the time I'm going to bed it's about 15%. I can deal with that.
If need to "pull the battery", hold the power button for 12 seconds (then release) and it will hard reboot the phone, or kill the power if it's frozen. You'll know this is happening because after holding the power button for 4 seconds the LED buttons start flashing twice a second, keep counting to 12. Easy. 4/25/2013 2:06:35 PM |
quagmire02 All American 44225 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "iPhones don't require battery pulls. How do they get around it?" |
android phones don't REQUIRE battery pulls any more than iphones REQUIRE them...each OS can (and does) freeze or become unresponsive, and if the internet is any indication, phones (including iphones) sometimes require running the battery down until it shuts off if you can't remove the battery
did i say it happens on a regular basis with either? no, of course not...but all it would take is once before i'd be pissed that my battery isn't removable
i simply don't think making the single most failure-prone item in an electronic device nearly impossible to replace on your own (when it's so easy to build it so that it IS user-replaceable) is a good idea
*shrug*
[Edited on April 25, 2013 at 3:40 PM. Reason : .]4/25/2013 3:38:21 PM |
synapse play so hard 60935 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "each OS can (and does) freeze or become unresponsive, and if the internet is any indication, phones (including iphones) sometimes require running the battery down until it shuts off if you can't remove the battery" |
Any time my one of my iPhones would freeze, the phone would reboot automatically, or I could reboot the phone by doing a hard reboot using the power button I never once had to wait on the thing to stay locked up until the battery wore out, and I had at least 3 of those phones and was what I would like to consider a power user.
Quote : | "i simply don't think making the single most failure-prone item in an electronic device nearly impossible to replace on your own (when it's so easy to build it so that it IS user-replaceable) is a good idea" |
That's a different issue. One, that for me at least, wouldn't matter very much since I carry insurance on my phone. Because of this Verizon will essentially give me a replacement phone whenever I ask for one through the warranty/"free" extended warranty. And I guess I've been lucky, but I can't recall having a battery go bad on a cellphone I've had. Perhaps I never hang on to one long enough for that to be a concern
[Edited on April 25, 2013 at 3:53 PM. Reason : ]4/25/2013 3:46:41 PM |
quagmire02 All American 44225 Posts user info edit post |
^ right...i'm not even saying that androids lock up frequently in a way that requires a battery pull...heck, when i had my thunderbolt, i'd throw try out ROMs all the time and the worst that USUALLY happened is that it's spontaneously reboot (which all smartphones are designed to do if they have a catastrophic failure of some kind)
but google it...there are clearly incidences of iphone users having their phones lock up in a way that required a full battery drain because they couldn't reboot or power off...it happens
i suspect iphones are less prone to the issue (compared to android phones) for the same reason most of their computers are more stable than their PC counterparts: they control the hardware AND the software
i am quite aware that this isn't a widespread problem...i realize that most people who want a user-replaceable battery want it so that they can carry a spare or buy another one if the first phone starts to lose too much of it's capacity...i'm just pointing out my additional reason 4/25/2013 3:59:46 PM |
gs7 All American 2354 Posts user info edit post |
If anything, the Ultrapixels and Zoe are why I bought the HTC One.
Totally not a gimmick, I am very pleased at this innovation.
If you don't know, Zoe takes 15 pictures in 3 seconds, while shooting a separate 3 second video, and oh btw, it took 5 pictures during the second before you hit the button, too, for a total of 20 pictures.
This article links to some solid examples of it in action: http://www.zdnet.com/htc-one-zoes-and-highlight-videos-may-be-best-htc-innovations-ever-videos-7000012364/ 4/25/2013 5:03:33 PM |
quagmire02 All American 44225 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "come on google i/o, big money no whammies" |
there will be no announcements of KLP, and no high-end phone(s)4/26/2013 9:30:28 AM |
puck_it All American 15446 Posts user info edit post |
Phone announcements are sounding unlikely.
However, I'd be shocked if a new version of android wasn't announced. It may not be pushed to aosp until July, but July will mark 1 year since jelly bean. (Though 4.2 jb was novemberish) 4/26/2013 7:33:14 PM |
puck_it All American 15446 Posts user info edit post |
Looks like android police is reporting a 4.3 jelly bean release is imminent.... Considering I/o is a month away, I guess that answers that.
While incremental, I hope it brings a couple of solid new features... There's a few tweaks I'd like to see....
Integrated do not disturb being one of them. 4/26/2013 8:25:42 PM |
quagmire02 All American 44225 Posts user info edit post |
i'm just glad this new-phone-every-other-month trend is starting to slow...i know moto is scaling back and is planning on cutting down a quite a bit in order to release fewer, "better" phones
i'm still betting KLP isn't announced next month, though 4/26/2013 8:28:48 PM |
puck_it All American 15446 Posts user info edit post |
I'm OK with that, to be honest. I'm really happy with jellybean. I don't need a ui overhaul, right now, to be happy. 4/27/2013 5:42:49 PM |
ssclark Black and Proud 14179 Posts user info edit post |
sigh i still can't decide between the GS4 and the One...
the one is absolutely gorgeous obviously.
However, the sheer amount of features on the GS4 is hard to pass up. it's almost mind boggling how much the phone does 5/5/2013 10:53:33 PM |
synapse play so hard 60935 Posts user info edit post |
I need a note/list making app. What's good on Android?
If it is also available on iOS and/or the internets that would be great too. 5/6/2013 9:47:07 AM |
Axelay All American 6276 Posts user info edit post |
Does anyone own a good external/emergency battery pack which they would recommend? I'm going out of town on business in two weeks and will be away from my hotel and probably moving from site to site for extended periods of time. My Droid 4 gets unplugged at 7am and tends to start getting low by 9pm each day (this is with a fairly significant amount of use in office, but I suspect that I will be using it much more out of the office). How difficult is it to find one of these locally? Should I just go ahead and try to get one on Amazon? 5/6/2013 9:51:36 AM |
Wickerman All American 2404 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Anyone else have issues with Swype on TWW? It does not auto-space and capitalizes every word when I write a post. The browser is interpreting the text-entry box as something different." |
Get Swiftkey 4. Best keyboard with swype and a predictive dictionary5/6/2013 9:53:18 AM |
gs7 All American 2354 Posts user info edit post |
^^^Two suggestions:
- Any.DO (uses Gmail Tasks to store lists) - Google Keep (new service)
[Edited on May 6, 2013 at 11:49 AM. Reason : .] 5/6/2013 11:47:37 AM |
qntmfred retired 40637 Posts user info edit post |
onenote/evernote? 5/6/2013 1:16:14 PM |
Str8BacardiL ************ 41752 Posts user info edit post |
Anyone else get a tablet and then get bored with it and never charge it? 5/7/2013 11:38:28 PM |
llama All American 841 Posts user info edit post |
^ Yep. I randomly picked it up yesterday to find it only had 8% battery left, so I had to go find the stupid proprietary Samsung charger cable. 5/8/2013 12:55:35 AM |
Str8BacardiL ************ 41752 Posts user info edit post |
It sucks because once in a while I want to use it and its dead as shit, but I definitely do not use it daily and it is dead probably 70% of the time.
FWP 5/8/2013 12:57:25 AM |
stowaway All American 11770 Posts user info edit post |
I use my tablet 95% of the time for my computing needs at home. Only time I go to the desktop is for porn on the tv and occasional gaming. 5/8/2013 1:54:54 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148354 Posts user info edit post |
I've been getting "Damaged SD card SD card damaged. You may have to reformat it." messages on my phone
I can run all the apps that are installed on my SD card, but can't access photos or take new photos, or download files
I read that removing and reinserting the SD card usually fixes this, but it doesn't usually work for me, and I can't remove/reinsert without taking my battery out
any ideas? I'm sure I could get a new SD card and copy my necessary stuff over but I'd prefer that as a last resort 5/12/2013 9:10:27 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148354 Posts user info edit post |
i'm guessing i might have fixed it by deleting some stuff from the SD card...i finally got the phone to boot without getting the message, plugged into a computer via USB and saw that i had like 250 megs free of 8 gigs...deleted about a gig of bootleg concert videos...i'm thinking it was probably just a low space issue, though i havent yet rebooted to confirm
but all the stuff i googled regarding the message indicated it wasnt actually a corrupt SD card, but usually some other kind of issue in how the phone handles the card or something other than corrupt data 5/13/2013 12:38:35 AM |
laxman490 All American 2385 Posts user info edit post |
Google I/O day! Yay! 5/15/2013 7:35:13 AM |
quagmire02 All American 44225 Posts user info edit post |
i can't imagine there will be much to get very excited about
babel/hangouts, maybe? not interested in the gaming center rumor...maybe a refined (but not new) tablet? no way there's an android 5 announcement
oh, yeah, google glass...and the rumor of a maps update/overhaul could be interesting 5/15/2013 10:53:23 AM |