while GISing for a nice picture of the SASB North building (where the Honor Court is) so others could photoshop robbers running out holding bags of money, i discovered this picture, which suggests to me that at least at some point, if not still, there was a webcam or more in the area



so there is a chance the bandits were caught on tape

unfortunately the feed (http://its.unc.edu/resnet/webcams/sasb/) requires a UNC login, so

and for page 186:

8/2/2011 10:03:26 PM

Quote :

"ordinarily would not have been admitted... except for his football skills"

I thought this pretty much applied to the majority of every single football team - no offense to our fine student athletes, just saying there aren't too many football players with 4.3 GPAs, a perfect SAT, and a half dozen extracurriculars that showcase leadership skills.

^ Bandits stealing, admins destroying. Either one.

[Edited on August 2, 2011 at 10:08 PM. Reason : -]

8/2/2011 10:07:22 PM

wonder if a reporter asked Thorp or somebody "can you tell about the stolen records, just as far as if they were records of student athletes, or non-student athletes, or a combination of both?" he'd be like "well FERPA clearly protects that information, so I can't confirm or deny whether or not all 30 of the files were a combination of current and former football and basketball players and that zero of the stolen records were for non-student athletes"

8/2/2011 10:12:12 PM

I'm probably out of the loop here, but what is cube master?

8/2/2011 10:13:10 PM

is it something about being good at solving rubix cubes? i just like how his head is much bigger than normal

i dunno, just figured i'd reward his photoshop efforts by posting his 48th post of last page here for all to see

8/2/2011 10:14:41 PM

Yeah, there's a youtube video of Holden Thorp winning some Rubik's Cube competition as a teenager...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSGHlZmuIBk

8/2/2011 10:23:54 PM

He handles a Rubik's Cube a lot better than a football scandal.

8/2/2011 10:28:13 PM

8/2/2011 10:30:51 PM

to me, it doesnt look like he won, to me

[Edited on August 2, 2011 at 10:31 PM. Reason : ^hahhaa]

8/2/2011 10:31:17 PM

straight outta Fayetville

8/2/2011 11:10:54 PM

Quote :

"Those recruits include athletes who scored below 900 on the SAT or were in the lower half of their high school class."

jesus, a 900? That's almost Chris Washburn levels of stupidity there. I mean, 900 was respectable for a blue-collar kid when I graduate from HS, but that was back when it was out of 1600. jeez

8/2/2011 11:51:58 PM

well they're not above taking recruits that clemson rejects academically

8/2/2011 11:54:05 PM

Quote :

"but that was back when it was out of 1600"

wait, what?

is a perfect SAT score no longer a 1600?

[Edited on August 3, 2011 at 12:13 AM. Reason : 1330 bitches, 790 math, only attempt]

8/3/2011 12:12:38 AM

Quote :

"I thought this pretty much applied to the majority of every single football team - no offense to our fine student athletes, just saying there aren't too many football players with 4.3 GPAs, a perfect SAT, and a half dozen extracurriculars that showcase leadership skills."

And it shouldn't have to be really. We actually do a great diservice not just to athletes but to a lot of skilled people by forcing this idea of the "liberal arts" eduction. I think the college system should be more open to pushing skills and enhancing aptitudes rather than trying to shoehorn everybody into this sort of perceived format.

I.E. it doesn't do anyone good to try and shoehorn an potential pro athlete or a musical prodigy into a bullshit geology class just like you really probably shouldn't force a physics major to take a poetry class.

And while I wish that math and science were pushed more to the general populous the truth is that learning calculus doesn't really do anything for someone not in a math or science. I think its important to broaden horizons and all but this could be done less in a classroom setting with hard grades and tests too.

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8/3/2011 12:27:38 AM

^^

8/3/2011 1:31:29 AM

Quote :

"I mean, 900 was respectable for a blue-collar kid when I graduate from HS, but that was back when it was out of 1600. jeez"

Shit I forgot about that. now the max is like 2400 isn't it?

8/3/2011 7:14:32 AM

SFN is pretty pathetic

Quote :

"The Last 30 Posts On The Clock: Thorp TBJ: Wolfpack Red seats meet the RBC Center NC State names team captains Bob Orr, Colossal Jackass Records stolen from UNC Honor Court building — UNC declines comment on any connection between break-in and McAdoo case Would This Be The “UNC Lunatic Fringe”? Sunday Quick Hits Todd Turner for UNC Athletic Director Nate Irving signs with Denver Broncos It’s Friday, but still not over Butch and UNC admin offer conflicting stories on 216 records; Message board posters digging into Blake’s records(updated 8:35) Continued Fallout: Baddour Resigns (Updated 3pm) Watch the UNC presser live here Butch Fired: What folks are saying (Thursday 10AM update) Tar heel fans wish death to Chancellor Thorp Wiley’s attorney speaks Butch Davis Fired (Confirmed!!!) Did 216 phone calls nail the coffin shut? Wednesday Football Tidbits (2pm update) NC State unveils new football uniforms More from ACC Football Kickoff ACC Football Kickoff Quick Hits N&O: UNC professor back home, still unavailable on McAdoo plagiarism WRAL: Cole & Bryan speak about 2011 Wolfpack ‘contentions’ (wordplay is fun) 2011 Football Updated Organizational Chart Cullen Jones to Swim in World Championships A “baffled” Greg Little Addresses Tickets & Tags (Is There A License Plate Bandit or a License Plate Fairy?) Butch says he will provide self-redacted 216 records “pretty soon” A Closer Look at UNC’s NOA UNC officials continue “cooperation” by declining to speak with WTVD plus random thoughts on local media… Mark Gottfried Summer Presser today at 1pm "

8/3/2011 7:15:43 AM

ttwista scored a perfect 540 on Internet arguing.

8/3/2011 7:15:49 AM

^Gotta dock points for trying to brag about a 1330 on the SAT.

8/3/2011 7:22:04 AM

Yeah no kidding, I don't think we need to start whipping out our SAT scores just because some of our single subject scores beat out UNC athletes totals

::cough::1490 first try::cough::

8/3/2011 8:34:06 AM

heard the Charlotte UNC fans trying to call in this morning and bash NC State for electing an arrested drug head as a team captain.

8/3/2011 9:52:45 AM

they act like no college athletes ever smoke the ganja

8/3/2011 9:55:34 AM

I can't believe that SO MANY stupid UNC fans still either don't know that it was just an asthma steroid inhaler medicine, or think that that is a performance enhancer. And I'm baffled by the number of them that think a college apartment with weed in it constitutes a drug den or drug ring. I mean that's reaching... even for scout message boarders.

8/3/2011 9:56:34 AM

They are so desperate to get their bad news off the air.

8/3/2011 10:06:48 AM

Quote :

"they act like no college athletes ever smoke the ganja "

Throw that mentality away. That's just a stupid, stupid thing to say.

8/3/2011 10:12:20 AM

college athletes, college students, whatever. if you don't believe it happens, you might want to get out of your insulated bubble.

8/3/2011 10:17:03 AM

ruh roh, UNCCHEAT season ticket sales are down: proof that indeed we are their rivals

Quote :

"At the Rams Club and the athletic ticket office, UNC officials are trying to keep the support of fans. UNC has sold 32,500 season-ticket packages, and associate AD Clint Gwaltney said there have been a handful of calls from fans wanting refunds. The 32,500 is about 2,000 short of last year's total, but Gwaltney said that was expected because popular opponents N.C. State and Virginia Tech aren't on this year's home schedule. Read more: http://www.newsobserver.com/2011/08/03/1386989/thorp-target-at-unc.html#ixzz1TyWCkotc "

Article though is about the UNC Lunatic Fringe, good times

8/3/2011 10:18:17 AM

in this scenario, "handful" is a euphemism for "half the fanbase"

8/3/2011 10:20:26 AM

^ yea, there's a whole thread on IC about it, 2 if im not mistaken

Quote :

"unfortunately the feed (http://its.unc.edu/resnet/webcams/sasb/) requires a UNC login, so"

try:
username: hthorp
password: ballermiata

[Edited on August 3, 2011 at 10:23 AM. Reason : ]

8/3/2011 10:21:48 AM

Quote :

"college athletes, college students, whatever. if you don't believe it happens, you might want to get out of your insulated bubble."

Yes, of course they smoke up. I think everyone after 7th grade knows that.

No, it's not something you say to justify their actions.

If UNC points fingers at us and says "oh look, they're hitting the ganj" don't say "everybody does it, get over it." That's just retardedly ignorant.

Admit that it wasn't a good move from our players and move on.

I'm just tired of hearing school yard bullshit from grown ass people.

[Edited on August 3, 2011 at 10:27 AM. Reason : ]

8/3/2011 10:26:03 AM

clempson getting into the act

http://dev.chuckoliver.net/2011/08/what-comes-around-goes-around-for-swofford-unc-clemson/

would be juicy as hell for Clemson to scream bloody-murder if Swofford doesn't add additional penalties to the NCAA mandated ones.

I think we need to add a 10/28 countdown clock to this thread although, we all feel like deep down UNC is going to get off easy.

8/3/2011 11:22:57 AM

weren't some of the unc players busted for pot last year as well? quan sturdivant maybe?

8/3/2011 11:25:12 AM

yea and he didn't sit a game

8/3/2011 11:27:49 AM

there's no way in hell that swofford adds penalties.

[Edited on August 3, 2011 at 11:39 AM. Reason : (i would like to be wrong though)]

8/3/2011 11:39:19 AM

Quote :

" I mean, 900 was respectable for a blue-collar kid when I graduate from HS, but that was back when it was out of 1600. jeez"

A lot of people still refer to their SAT score using the 1600 scale...possibly what was meant by a 900 score. I know when I was in high school (graduated 09) the teachers and guidance counselors said that because the 2400 scale was so new, most colleges would still use/refer to the 1600 scale (and judge the writing portion separately I guess) for a few years so they could see how the writing portion was being graded and get a feel for it. I have a hard time believing someone, even an athlete, with a 900 out of 2400 would be admitted. But I don't know.

8/3/2011 11:40:46 AM

that article sounds familiar to what happened to our Basketball Program.

8/3/2011 12:19:04 PM

Quote :

"Littlejohn, who represents the fireholdenthorp.com website, said he plans to continue attending games and supporting the team. He hopes the Tar Heels will bond together through adversity and play in the ACC championship game Dec. 3 in Charlotte."

8/3/2011 12:30:57 PM

Wow, that is a great story. I have never heard that before. Considering that Swofford didnt add any additional punishment to FSU, I wouldnt expect for him to add any more to UNC's punishment.

8/3/2011 12:41:06 PM

^^^Except... and feel free to correct me where wrong... the NCAA didn't find anything on Valvano but the North Carolina Attorney General and University of North Carolina BoG felt the need to drop the hammer.

Now compare that with the way more corrupt football program that UNC was running and you see the Attorney General and BoG scrambling and coming out with pressers stating their concern over the evil agents and how they seduce players and what drastic steps need to be implemented to protect our student athletes UNC. I haven't really seen anything from them about going after UNC's athletic program. Maybe that only happens after they deem the NCAA's punishment to lenient.

You aren't going to see any additional punishments, heck what you will probably see is people in positions of authority attempt to stick up for UNC and lighten any punishments.

</conspiracy>

[Edited on August 3, 2011 at 12:48 PM. Reason : -]

8/3/2011 12:41:45 PM

It's starting to get interesting again on the Blake phone records thread on PP. Lots of coincedences between Marvin Austin's phone number, the phone number registered to a Charity that got its status revoked, calls from Blake to both numbers in correlation to calls with Wichard and Austin's HS coach. Could get much bigger than NCAA if there is money laundering involved.

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=178&f=2515&t=7725319&p=24

8/3/2011 1:16:58 PM

8/3/2011 1:31:22 PM

http://www.wralsportsfan.com/unc/story/9944648/

UNC Honor Court system to be reviewed in light of player's plagiarized paper

Quote :

"Chancellor Holden Thorp has talked to some faculty members about forming a committee to review the student-run Honor Court system, which had its credibility damaged in a recent hearing with former University of North Carolina football player Michael McAdoo and the NCAA. Many of those who teach at UNC were embarrassed by the initial accusations of cheating by football players who were subsequently suspended from the team. Then, recent media reports uncovered facts that McAdoo had plagiarized parts of a paper and it wasn't caught by the university. “It became more clear over the course of the last two or three months that the academic mission of the university was not being fully respected in all corners,” said UNC professor of history Jay Smith. “If you discover something by accident, that means there is reason to suspect that, at least, there are other instances out there." Smith said he thinks a review of the Honor Court system makes sense right now. So does Lloyd Kramer, the chairman of the History Department. “I think it’s an interesting and important long tradition that goes back to the 19th century here at UNC, but I think that times have changed and it’s probably important to review again how it operates,” Kramer said. “It used to be you’d have a little cheat sheet or something, but now you just get on your phone and these kinds of things are facing technological challenges that the 19th century Honor Court never faced.” In the week leading up to the firing of former head football coach Butch Davis, Thorp received tremendous support from faculty members. Out of about 90 emails obtained by WRAL News through a public records request, at least 10 came directly from faculty, and all were in support of the chancellor’s decision. “You took an extremely important stand yesterday, acting in the very best interest of the University,” wrote law professor John Boger following the decision to make a coaching move. “You have my admiration and full support.” “I just wanted to check to see that you are okay after this whole Butch Davis thing,” wrote Tara Carbonetti, who works at the Morehead Planetarium & Science Center. “Hang in there! You are doing a GREAT job and I stand by you and your decisions 100%!!!!!” Thorp has come under harsh criticism since making a decision to dismiss Davis – a decision that Thorp said was entirely his. There are forum threads calling for UNC boycotts and Facebook pages calling for Thorp’s resignation. Faculty, however, are firmly standing by Thorp. “Better late than never,” wrote Lawrence Gilbert, a professor in the Biology Department. “I am relieved and appreciative of this final act.” McAdoo was denied an injunction last month that would have allowed him to play his senior season while a lawsuit seeking reinstatement of his eligibility and damages proceeds in court. In that hearing, Mcadoo's lawyer, Noah Hoffstetler, argued that his client was being deprived of the opportunity to succeed and that the NCAA violated its own procedures in ruling McAdoo ineligible. The NCAA was more in line with Thorp’s supporters, saying that academic credibility is more important than playing a sport. “Mr. McAdoo committed academic fraud. He is a cheater. That is what happened here,” said Raleigh-based lawyer Paul Sun, who represented the NCAA. "The NCAA takes academic fraud very seriously. The university’s facts presented to NCAA show academic fraud. Presumption is (that) there should be ineligibility.""

8/3/2011 1:34:48 PM

Hunter "Trans" Furr

http://northcarolina.scout.com/2/1091846.html

8/3/2011 1:35:34 PM

^^^ ha ha. Replace the fake 1928 or 1924 banner with that gem.



[Edited on August 3, 2011 at 1:36 PM. Reason : fg]

8/3/2011 1:36:20 PM

yall know that website http://www.fireholdenthorp.com

you know where the site's spokesperson Matt Littlejohn went to school?

East Lincoln Senior High School

yep

no college, especially not at UNC

and who is his favorite NFL team according to his facebook?

the motherfucking Dallas Cowboys, what a surprise

8/3/2011 2:08:51 PM

I'm eating up this PP investigation of the nonprofit. "Africans for All Seasons"

Here's to hoping this blows up all over again. Marv will forever be my favorite tar heel.

8/3/2011 2:32:07 PM

good lord, more new prongs appearing on packpride

Quote :

"Could somebody tell me why a former Baseball player that Played at UNC-W who is from Chapel Hill would buy this house in Washington DC. From a Janice D Johnson. Oh and just to fan the flames it is diagonally across the steet from the house that the Africa for all seasons NON-Profit was being run out of. And to fan the flames even further Austin's mothers name is Donna Johnson. It's the yellow house."

-the house sold for 171K after it was originally bought for 96K

-"Africa for All Seasons" is directly connected to the african studies chair who has been "unreachable" for weeks.

-was it a fake non-profit organization that was a front for paying marvin austin? it started up 2/20/2007 (marvin signed 2/7/07) and didn't file taxes for 3 years.

-marvin austin's cell number is ONE DIGIT different from a cell phone linked to the organization and both were activated at the same time

Quote :

"POPCORN OVERDOSE"

8/3/2011 2:33:25 PM

^^^ I bet he pulls for the bulls and the yankees or redsox too

[Edited on August 3, 2011 at 2:35 PM. Reason : ^COINCIDENCE I THINK NOT ]

8/3/2011 2:34:04 PM

Quote :

"-"Africa for All Seasons" is directly connected to the african studies chair who has been "unreachable" for weeks. "

If true, this is the best part

8/3/2011 2:34:32 PM

don't have a chance to read all the pp stuff, how do they believe the chair is connected to the org?

8/3/2011 2:36:59 PM