Quote :

"Especially in the case of women, the body weight of the exercise would be the heavier option, which if you're so obsessed with getting bigger, quicker and hypertrophy would be the way to go."

You're right, but only for so long. Eventually the muscles will grow to the point at which bodyweight isn't enough. And wouldn't it be great for her to have developed an appreciation and a knowledge of weight training at that point if she had started lifting with weights to begin with?

5/21/2010 10:23:24 AM

holy shit.

im gonna try that later.

5/21/2010 10:24:04 AM

Quote :

"5 reps on the bench will make you get stronger, but it may not make you get bigger as fast as doing 8-12 reps would."

hhhhmmm....i think im going to switch to 8 rep sets. i'll never be numerically strong anyways.

any other suggestions for increasing bench press?

5/21/2010 10:24:51 AM

Except you just said how silly it was to do 50x of an exercise, which is exactly what she'd do if she was weightlifting.

As far as the whole abs debate is concerned, doing dedicated ab work is silly.

Also, it makes me want to vomit.

5/21/2010 10:24:58 AM

lol you gotta be fuckin kidding me

5/21/2010 10:25:27 AM

If you want nice abs: lose weight.

A million crunches ain't going to do anything other than make you look fatter.

5/21/2010 10:27:29 AM

^ Prob is, if I lose more weight I will completely lose my boobs.

Quote :

"You're right, but only for so long. Eventually the muscles will grow to the point at which bodyweight isn't enough. And wouldn't it be great for her to have developed an appreciation and a knowledge of weight training at that point if she had started lifting with weights to begin with?"

I'm a former shot putter. Trust me, I've lifted weights INTENSELY. At one point, I could bench my body weight. And I still HATE WEIGHT TRAINING!

[Edited on May 21, 2010 at 10:28 AM. Reason : .]

5/21/2010 10:27:39 AM

^^WEIGHTLIFTING BURNS FAT AND BUILDS MUSCLE.

CARDIO ONLY BURNS FAT.

WHY SELL YOURSELF SHORT?


I mean jesus christ, look at your friend porcha for an example.

[Edited on May 21, 2010 at 10:28 AM. Reason : ]

5/21/2010 10:28:03 AM

Here, Lucy:

http://exrx.net/Lists/ExList/WaistWt.html

Do everything on the right side if you want and ignore everything on the left side.

Don't listen to me, apparently I don't know anything.

I'm just trying to help you out, but it's hard to stem the tide of idiotic fitness misconceptions that float around everywhere. I'm sorry if I came off as abrasive, but it's hard dealing with all the bullshit.

5/21/2010 10:29:30 AM

you leave dime bodied porcha out of this! he is my bff!!!!!!!!!!!!

5/21/2010 10:30:55 AM

Quote :

"I mean jesus christ, look at your friend porcha for an example. "

Or I could look at Quinn, who actually has a six pack and doesn't do ab exercises at all.

[Edited on May 21, 2010 at 10:32 AM. Reason : I mean, porcha's boneriffic, but if we're just going by abs alone]

5/21/2010 10:31:56 AM

abs just mean low body fat

dur

5/21/2010 10:34:37 AM

Indeed.

I'm quite confident that with weighted ab exercises Lucy would easily get abs showing on her upper portion (the kind she admired in Joie) in a few weeks.

Head out to Wal-mart and pick up a 10 and 20lb kettle ball if you don't like "icky gooey weights."

You're going to have to do "rep based" exercises if you want to develop that area. You might as well hold something in your hands while you do it.

5/21/2010 10:36:47 AM

Quote :

"You might as well hold something in your hands while you do it."

That's what she said.

5/21/2010 10:37:30 AM

god made me as a no fat version. i honestly dont count.

For fact keepings sake i only eat 3000 calories a day now. I'm 100% OK being in the 150's. My goal has shifted from a scale number to a task. DUNKING!!!!!!!!!!

5/21/2010 10:39:33 AM

If only there was a sex position that involved crunches.

5/21/2010 10:40:13 AM

yeah but they wouldnt be weighted.....therefore useless on the GOD system

5/21/2010 10:42:39 AM

No way, I'm going to patent 20lb. handcuffs.

[Edited on May 21, 2010 at 10:43 AM. Reason : and ballgags]

[Edited on May 21, 2010 at 10:43 AM. Reason : and dildoes]

5/21/2010 10:43:31 AM

I think this is a great business idea.

5/21/2010 10:46:53 AM

i'm going to do 1 rep of wash the car today

5/21/2010 10:51:52 AM

I did 10 reps of your mom last night.

5/21/2010 10:53:15 AM

It was a "weighted" exercise.

5/21/2010 10:53:36 AM

my mom does dips and pullups. she doesnt need your beer belly workout

5/21/2010 10:54:58 AM

Man I wish I had a racquetball partner in Charlotte.

Probably going to be boring and run tonight.

5/21/2010 10:57:36 AM

Quote :

""5 reps on the bench will make you get stronger, but it may not make you get bigger as fast as doing 8-12 reps would.""

i thought it was less reps more weight builds you up
more reps lower weight strengthens you/increases endurance


but ur not really saying weight here...

5/21/2010 12:37:38 PM

That's true.

Essentially running is a "weight training" exercise, except all you're lifting is your leg, which is nothing because you lift it every time you walk. This is why running is an endurance exercise and not a strength training exercise.

However if you want to strengthen your quad muscles, that is, make them larger and stronger and more defined, you need to lift more and do less reps. You can do this by squatting large amounts of wait 5 reps for 5 times.

5/21/2010 12:52:15 PM

I read the past 3ish pages of God spewing shit out of his keyboard and I just want to smack my head against the wall.

The Insanity workout program that Joie used to get her body you girls are drooling over features weightloss cardio plus muscle building body weight exercises. If you don't want to go into the gym or use any weights at all, and are looking for a program to follow, check it out. Fareako and Skwinkle have been doing it for a couple of weeks now, but I haven't heard of or asked for any of their results.

Looking at the before and after pictures of Insanity subjects, they don't bulk up. They just lose fat and harden the muscles they have.

Quote :

"Then you might just complete the hardest workout program ever put on DVD. Your personal trainer Shaun T will push you past your limits with 10 workout discs packed with plyometric drills on top of nonstop intervals of strength, power, resistance, and ab and core training moves. No equipment or weights needed. Just the will to get the hardest body you've ever had. The secret to these mind-blowing results: MAX Interval Training. Shaun T took traditional interval training and flipped it on its head—you perform long bursts of maximum-intensity exercises with short periods of rest. Each workout keeps you constantly challenged as you alternate between aerobic and anaerobic intervals performed at your MAX. The result: burn up to 1,000 calories in an hour and get the most insane body in 60 days."

5/21/2010 1:35:09 PM

Quote :

"Looking at the before and after pictures of Insanity subjects, they don't bulk up. They just lose fat and harden the muscles they have."

This alone shows you have no idea what you're talking about.

5/21/2010 1:37:23 PM

quick, go google bodybuilding.com and find some more big words to use

Really though, ladies, take a look at the program. It may be just what you're looking for. Or you can listen to the twig who is telling you to go lift weights and won't listen to a word anyone else says.

[Edited on May 21, 2010 at 1:52 PM. Reason : lkj]

5/21/2010 1:48:33 PM

Wouldn't going to bodybuilding.com be easier than googling bodybuilding.com?

5/21/2010 1:52:40 PM

Yeah, probably. I had doing the 'site search' in mind for the website, but w/e suits your style.

Quote :

"site:bodybuilding.com girls need to lift weights no exceptions"

http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Abodybuilding.com+girls+need+to+lift+weights+no+exceptions&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a



[Edited on May 21, 2010 at 1:56 PM. Reason : link]

5/21/2010 1:55:13 PM

Quote :

"Man I wish I had a racquetball partner in Charlotte. Probably going to be boring and run tonight."

my gym has a friday evening/saturday morning round robin where you show up and play two matches each with everyone else who shows up. (or till you want to leave). this is for squash though. but either way it's a great way to meet new people and find people you can play against regularly. ive gained 2-3 weekday morning partners out of doing this.

seems like your gym might have something similar, or if not, you should suggest it to them. esp if there is a "pro" to organize it or keep things moving, it works really well.

[Edited on May 21, 2010 at 1:58 PM. Reason : .]

5/21/2010 1:56:58 PM

so wait, someone catch me up on all the bitching and arguing...I'm too lazy to click the previous page

5/21/2010 2:08:54 PM

Basically...God told the girls they should be lifting weights to help them burn off the fat that they've got, but the girls are scared to get gigantic.

I think that's it.

5/21/2010 2:15:25 PM

message_topic.aspx?topic=595347

Have a great summer!

5/21/2010 2:21:19 PM

^^ yeah, and girls are not going to get jacked...not without really specifically trying to do so, anyway.

Quote :

"Powerlifters and Olympic lifters completely nullify that argument."

Uhhh...what?



I think that for general fitness and athleticism, you should do bodyweight exercises as well as lift weights. You're hampering yourself by not doing any weightlifting. That said, there's a place for bodyweight stuff, too.

Also, I think that weighted pull-ups are great. I don't do them weighted every time, but I do them with a 25 or 35 lb plate at least a couple of times per month.


This is oversimplifying, but I'd say 3-5 reps for strength, and 8-12 for size. Above that, you're pretty much training muscle endurance or doing cardio with weights. Also, just because you want to train for strength doesn't mean you should never bump the reps up and do some hypertrophy work. At a certain point, it becomes better to concentrate on building more muscle mass than to chase diminishing returns trying to eek more strength out of what you've got.


[Edited on May 21, 2010 at 6:10 PM. Reason : ]

5/21/2010 6:06:05 PM

i watched my portions at lunch

5/21/2010 6:08:37 PM

Quote :

"Basically...God told the girls they should be lifting weights to help them burn off the fat that they've got, but the girls are scared to get gigantic."

i didn't think that was the argument at all.
more along the lines of lifting weights was boring and looking for an alternative.

5/21/2010 6:11:35 PM

I swam about a half mile yesterday

then did a back workout tonight:

Pull-ups: 20, 10, 10, 10
T-bar row: 4x8
Kettlebell swings (75 lbs): 4x10

Seated preacher curls: 4x8

[Edited on May 21, 2010 at 6:12 PM. Reason : ^ try Crossfit if you think weights are boring.]

5/21/2010 6:11:58 PM

Biked 16½ miles, part of the trip from Dad's house was to Concord Mills where I was run off by security, whoops.
My legs are Jell-o now

5/21/2010 6:14:42 PM

^^it's not me

i mean, i do think weights are boring but i still do them


and just because im here:
abs/legs (this has been the first time ive worked abs in a while!)

Squats: (3 x 12, 135 lb)-next time im going 100-115 lb and try to go lower. i think itll be better
leg press(3 x12, 150 lb)
deadlift (3 x 12, 95 lb)
hamstring curls (3 x 12, 120)
lunges (100, 30 lb)

then i did this little ab workout that consists of 4 exercises 3 times (all body weight)
hanging leg raises (3 x 12)

30 min stair stepper.





now im doing 40 oz curls



[Edited on May 21, 2010 at 6:21 PM. Reason : ]

5/21/2010 6:16:28 PM

Deadlifts 3RM

RPM (spin class)

Foam Rolling


doing an MMA type class in the morning and then Oly Lifting

5/21/2010 6:48:34 PM

my wildest fantasy has come true.....confirmed TWINS at the gym

5/21/2010 7:11:05 PM

that's your fantasy?

you know we have a playboy playmate that works out there, right?

5/21/2010 7:23:19 PM

Mike...mike...mike....


How'm I not going to know that. I havent got any bigger in 2 months. What else am I doing in there?

[Edited on May 21, 2010 at 7:31 PM. Reason : hhahaha]

5/21/2010 7:27:01 PM

yesterday: 400 warmup variety

1000 free competition came in 4th with a time of 11:11.74 (about)

missed 3rd by 0.1 seconds (different heat, i was seeded first in my heat and won by 5 + seconds)

dropped 44+ seconds

used a tech suit for the first time

today: 200 warmup variety
50 free on second leg of 200 free mixed relay, my split was a 23.9 a 1 second + drop

5/21/2010 7:34:37 PM

^^ haha it all makes sense now

did you know a German study showed that men who stared at breasts for 10 min. a day had the same response as doing 30 min. of cardio.

Maybe you just look at boobs too often and burn too many calories?

[Edited on May 21, 2010 at 7:38 PM. Reason : boob]

5/21/2010 7:38:09 PM

1x12 pullup
3x8 weighted pullup
1x12 pullup
5x12 pull down
5x12 machine row
3x12 dumbell row
5x12 lateral cable press downs
3x12 one hand cable curl
3 sets of 21s
3x16 one hand preacher curl

today was tricky because i pulled the hell out of something in my lower back this week

5/21/2010 7:40:12 PM

I think we've finally found the source of my calorie burning incinerator.

5/21/2010 7:40:15 PM

hehe i know one playboy playmate in the area and i wonder if you guys are talking about her.

5/21/2010 7:42:45 PM