Costner- 20min, 1/3 for 2 pts, 3 turnovers, 2 rebounds and 4 fouls. He's been half-assing it the whole time and just got lucky to put up 20+ against S. Carolina.

11/25/2007 10:15:23 PM

[Edited on November 25, 2007 at 10:15 PM. Reason : back and forth]

11/25/2007 10:15:45 PM

The gods of fashion smote Nova

11/25/2007 10:15:51 PM

I think we play our best from behind. We try our damndest to give up close games.

11/25/2007 10:18:19 PM

Sidney Lowe - 3
Opposing coaches with untucked shirts - 0

11/25/2007 10:18:27 PM

big meltdown on carolinas scout page

11/25/2007 10:22:26 PM

Are they pissed because we won?

11/25/2007 10:22:55 PM

^^^ haahah

11/25/2007 10:24:18 PM

Nah... they don't care about us!!! Remember we are NOT their rival!

11/25/2007 10:27:31 PM

well that is true. UNC cares more about jellybabies than NCSU

11/25/2007 10:28:47 PM

I just looked... most of them are actually saying that we got hosed by the refs most of the game.

11/25/2007 10:32:00 PM

http://sports.espn.go.com/broadband/video/videopage?videoId=3127559&categoryId=2459792

Video link, there's that bit where Gavin is talking to the camera for all you wannabe lip readers

I'm gonna put my money on the 'i'm a winner i'm a winner i'm a fuckin winner'

11/25/2007 10:37:44 PM

the online post game videos that espn does are so bad. three minutes of people talking and two clips.

11/25/2007 10:40:43 PM

haha im surprised they actually agree with us for the most part


our margin of victory in this tournament is amazing

[Edited on November 25, 2007 at 10:43 PM. Reason : ]

11/25/2007 10:42:44 PM

Haha

We committed 49 turnovers, shot 54 for 78 from the line (69%) and had a combined -13 rebound differential through the tournament.

We could have easily been 0-3. Shows the determination our team showed to pull out those games. On a good note, we did shoot 46% from the field and 41% from 3 land for the tourney.

I'm really kind of scared to see how much we'll get outrebounded by MSU on Wednesday but if we can shoot that well from the field consistently, we'll be in most games we play in.

11/25/2007 11:05:31 PM

Did anyone else notice on the very last play where Nova threw the ball the length of the court, one of the Nova players pretty much rode Grant out of the lane to get position for the tip? He was blocking Grant like he was an offensive lineman in football. Just one of the many poor/no calls on the refs' part. Good thing they came through on Grant's 3. Otherwise I'd have a busted tv because I would've been throwing shit.

[Edited on November 25, 2007 at 11:06 PM. Reason : adsf]

11/25/2007 11:05:49 PM

they really should've t'd that nova guy for very obviously flopping... but that's for a different day.

11/25/2007 11:07:57 PM

omfg they're talking shit about the last play on espn2 right now

I'm so tired of fucking espn wearing anti-red tinted glasses. Nevermind the flop on the inbounds by Nova, or the riding Grant out of the lane I posted about ^^, or the other countless no calls. State benefited from one call all game, but somehow we didn't deserve to win and Nova did? Give me a fucking break.

[Edited on November 25, 2007 at 11:10 PM. Reason : adsf]

11/25/2007 11:09:04 PM

they can talk all the fuck they want to

end of the day, that's still a big W for the Wolfpack, and they can't talk that away

11/25/2007 11:10:57 PM

"tough to see"...as the nova player reaches out, hits grant on the elbow, and then sticks his hands up in the air.

is it normally called in that situation? no.
was it a foul? yes.

get over it, espn. if you watched the rest of the game, you'd realize it was karma.

11/25/2007 11:10:58 PM

was it doug gottlieb? he always gives us shit.

11/25/2007 11:36:23 PM

69-68 Suck on that ESPN

11/25/2007 11:37:18 PM

hopefully after this win we will get a ranking.

but dont get your hopes up. we will fall right out the next game

11/25/2007 11:38:34 PM

Talk about media bias, they just showed the highlights of the game on the local ABC station here in Charlotte and when they showed the foul on Grant the sports guy was like "he wasn't even touched" even though you can clearly see from the replay from the camera on the floor that the Villanova player clearly hit Grant on the arm. I even rewinded it a couple of times and was like "WTF is this guy talking about Grant not being touched."

[Edited on November 25, 2007 at 11:39 PM. Reason : ]

11/25/2007 11:38:50 PM

what else do you expect with a sketchy end like that?

who cares what the pundits say right now. we will have plenty of chances to prove them right or wrong during the season...

11/25/2007 11:48:54 PM

I'm glad these guys stepped up this weekend. Maybe now we crack back into the top 25

11/25/2007 11:53:28 PM

lol. I'd rather not be ranked. Our team never plays like they should with a little number beside the name.

[Edited on November 25, 2007 at 11:54 PM. Reason : ]

11/25/2007 11:54:19 PM

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"who cares what the pundits say right now. we will have plenty of chances to prove them right or wrong during the season..."

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"who cares what the pundits say right now. we will have plenty of chances to prove them right or wrong during the season..."

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"who cares what the pundits say right now. we will have plenty of chances to prove them right or wrong during the season..."

11/26/2007 12:06:59 AM

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"hopefully after this win we will get a ranking. but dont get your hopes up. we will fall right out the next game"

yeah ^^, i like the whole unranked thing

11/26/2007 12:08:18 AM

you can't have your cake and eat it, too.

either we can be a good team, or we can be unranked.

11/26/2007 12:10:01 AM

Under the radar!!!11

11/26/2007 12:12:52 AM

about to review our game on ESPN2... and yes, its gottleib

11/26/2007 12:13:54 AM

i wouldnt doubt it if we get ranked again before our game with Michigan St. on wednesday. ESPN would love to have a #11 vs #w/e matchup on their network

11/26/2007 12:15:35 AM

good point, we will prolly be higher on the ESPN/USA poll

11/26/2007 12:17:14 AM

id rather be unranked.

so we can call it a real upset.

11/26/2007 12:19:52 AM

announcers: "bad call" right after our clip then during the duke-directional kentucky highlights "bad calls wouldn't come into play in this game"

[Edited on November 26, 2007 at 12:20 AM. Reason : ]

11/26/2007 12:20:05 AM

Asshats, the whole lot of them. I say we just get rid of all the current crop of analysts (minus Jay Bilas) and get some new guys (or ultra attractive females) to be the analysts. As much as a I like the energy that Vitale brings when he's doing a game, he's way too biased and he hypes the big teams up way too much. When UNC was playing BYU last night he was all "oh there's too much pride in that jersey to lose, blah, blah, blah, Roy Williams Hall of Fame, blah, blah, blah."

11/26/2007 12:24:57 AM

in the unc game last year when they showed the clip of hansbrough's technical he was all 'not really a swing there if that's what they're looking at'

whatever, guy steals credit cards.

11/26/2007 12:25:02 AM

Fuck ESPN.

Their coverage is about as good as the pasty on Janet Jackson's boob at halftime of the Superbowl.

[Edited on November 26, 2007 at 12:26 AM. Reason : Fuck ESPN.]

11/26/2007 12:25:48 AM

wish they would bring Brad Daugherty back. Fuck NASCAR, he was the best basketball announcer espn had.

11/26/2007 12:49:23 AM

Off the MSU messageboard

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" Posted: 11/25/2007 8:46 PM The MSU rebounding issue.. goes a little deeper than just blocking out and getting the rebound. To my eyes, there seems to be too much scrambling around and guys getting out of position. Some of it is communication on switches and some of it is simply not doing a good job of keeping your guy in front of you. Obviously, when the big men are forced into help situations that decreases the ability to be in good rebounding position."

11/26/2007 1:21:22 AM

^the same thing we're dealing with. JJ goes for the block on ANYTHING that comes near the paint leaving his assignment free with nobody boxing them out. Tonight seemed to be a whole nother problem with Nova just going over the back every fucking time down and us never getting the call, but no matter.

11/26/2007 1:29:12 AM

Hickson should go up for the block a majority of the time because he forces a bad shot. Hickson could pick his shot better and use better technique, but other guys need to rotate appropriately and block out their guys. Grant and costner are doing an especially poor job at this.

Costner being out of shape also hurts us doubly because it's often costner getting beat, forcing hickson to come over on the weak side.

Costner is the key

[Edited on November 26, 2007 at 1:39 AM. Reason : .]

11/26/2007 1:38:28 AM

Yeah I agree.. I watched some highlights of the game and while Hickson does go for the block on anything near the basket, he has to leave his man anyway for the weak-side or help defense because our perimeter guys are getting blown by. Our guards and perimeter players need to rotate down to the man he leaves and block them out. We are doing very poorly with rotation.

11/26/2007 2:54:18 AM

FYI, nova was 2-12 on 3 pointers, ~17%. That's a Herb-esque exercise in futility.

11/26/2007 4:22:11 AM

Did Fells' dunk get any airtime on SC?

11/26/2007 8:33:05 AM

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"Hickson should go up for the block a majority of the time because he forces a bad shot."

south carolina was noticeably adjusting their shots so as not to have them blocked, and missed a lot as a result.

11/26/2007 8:54:39 AM

lol and then there was that UNO guy that just flat out stopped in the lane and turned around to pass it back out.

11/26/2007 9:08:57 AM

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"FYI, nova was 2-12 on 3 pointers, ~17%. That's a Herb-esque exercise in futility."

no, herb esque is 6/35

11/26/2007 9:22:06 AM

The one thing we can change that would improve our defensive rebounding the most is our perimeter defense. When we let guys get free in the lane, our big men (Hickson in particular) have to leave their man and challenge the shot. This leaves their big guys free on the offensive glass.

When guys do get beat, we do need to a better job rotating from weak side to crash the boards. It all starts on the perimeter, however. We can't afford to play off of good shooters on the perimeter, but we do need to improve our defensive positioning and closeouts. I do like that we are doing a better job defending the three. Individually our guys have some things to work with our staff on. Javi was playing defense too much on his heels. Degand gave us solid D at times but a bit inconsistent, and seemed to have lapses on a few posessions. He does seem to be improving, and I think he has the quickness and length to develop into a shutdown PG. Grant relies a bit too much on baiting guys in for the block. Horner doesn't have as much perimeter quickness, but could stand to play with a lower center of gravity. Fells played pretty solid perimeter D most of the tournament.

We have a game changer inside when Hickson is in the game. Improving our perimeter D could make us one of the better defensive teams in the country, while solving many of our rebounding woes.

Of course, I have no problem funneling guys to Hickson on a last shot situation like the SC game.

[Edited on November 26, 2007 at 11:14 AM. Reason : .]

11/26/2007 11:12:34 AM