j_sun All American 9198 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "AuH20 All American 768 Posts user info edit post I like that our coaching staff is getting on there, though. This probably also will mean no ban during the season for the players like under Coach Lowe.
5/4/2011 4:24:53 PM" |
it's funny that you say that as if it was a bad thing that coach lowe banned twitter use during the season. looks like a great idea now doesn't it.5/10/2011 5:40:26 PM |
Bullet All American 28412 Posts user info edit post |
I think it's fine the coaches are on it, but i think it's a good idea for the players to limit their tweets.
[Edited on May 10, 2011 at 5:53 PM. Reason : imho] 5/10/2011 5:50:51 PM |
morpheus647 All American 1108 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I wonder what Gottfried's position on Twitter is?
Yank it!" |
Well the fact that he has an account probably means he supports it.5/10/2011 6:38:40 PM |
Bullet All American 28412 Posts user info edit post |
Maybe. Or maybe he supports the coaches using it...
I at least hope he supports instructing his players not to tweet about gays or to complain about the fans. 5/10/2011 7:01:49 PM |
AuH20 All American 1604 Posts user info edit post |
When I said what I said before, I wasn't expecting a player to go on and complain about a hypothetical situation in which a gay player was on the team/in the locker room with them.
I guess what I should have said to be more specific (I just assumed this went down anyways) is that after going over the do's/don'ts with a PR person from the University, let them have at it. If you look around the league, there are plenty of schools/players that do it just fine without causing controversy every couple of weeks. 5/10/2011 10:20:37 PM |
Kodiak All American 7067 Posts user info edit post |
Amaechi responds:
http://tinyurl.com/3gnftfl
Quote : | "Did you know NC State has a 45% graduation rate for its basketball players? You would think that would be a larger concern for their players – the vast majority of whom will never join me in pulling on an NBA jersey." |
Ouch. Way to go, C.J.5/10/2011 10:24:54 PM |
cptinsano All American 11993 Posts user info edit post |
^Gay 5/10/2011 10:26:13 PM |
ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
I would hope a vast marjority won't take cock in their ass either. 5/10/2011 10:27:20 PM |
DalesDeadBug In Pressed Silk 2978 Posts user info edit post |
haha Amaechi fighting with a 19 year old kid
Quote : | "Also, “too big to be gay”? Sounds like he’s put a lot of thought into that conclusion…" |
hahahaha
[Edited on May 10, 2011 at 10:29 PM. Reason : it wasn't from twitter i see]
[Edited on May 10, 2011 at 10:31 PM. Reason : .]5/10/2011 10:29:13 PM |
DoeoJ has 7062 Posts user info edit post |
5/10/2011 10:40:05 PM |
MrLuvaLuva85 All American 4265 Posts user info edit post |
hodge sticking up for him on twitter tonight 5/10/2011 10:41:23 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
I don't see the problem. CJ clearly identified himself as not being an anti gay. 5/10/2011 10:57:30 PM |
cavemandan Veteran 205 Posts user info edit post |
this is very funny 5/10/2011 11:19:44 PM |
cptinsano All American 11993 Posts user info edit post |
no(anti)homo
[Edited on May 10, 2011 at 11:45 PM. Reason : looks better.] 5/10/2011 11:31:31 PM |
Wolfman Tim All American 9654 Posts user info edit post |
do I dare see packpride's take on this? 5/10/2011 11:58:24 PM |
cptinsano All American 11993 Posts user info edit post |
Checking packpride is like asking your grandpa, who drops the n word from time to time, about the president. 5/11/2011 3:25:15 AM |
BigMan157 no u 103354 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.technicianonline.com/news/c-j-leslie-posts-anti-gay-tweets-1.2561870
Quote : | "C.J. Leslie posts anti-gay tweets C.J. Leslie's anti-gay comments on Twitter sparks controversy within the N.C. State community.
Tuesday afternoon, sophomore men's basketball forward C.J. Leslie posted the following anti-gay comments to his Twitter.
"I'm no anti gay But I would rather not have a gay n the locker room."
"John amaechi is to big to be gay…….#imjusssayin"
"I'm not saying I hate gays but that's sumthing that I would not wnt n my locker room….."
Despite Leslie's initial statement that he is "no anti gay," his comment is already raising red flags in the N.C. State community.
Annabelle Myers, assistant athletics director for media relations, said Leslie's statement should not be viewed as a reflection on the University's relationship with the GLBT community.
"This is someone's personal opinion, so it doesn't have anything to do with N.C. State athletics' or N.C. State's opinion on the subject," Myers said.
Although Myers said the University has no legal grounds to control what Leslie—or any other player—posts to any social media site, student-athletes are reminded to be cautious with their comments.
"Someone has a right to say what they want to say, but we also have to remind our student athletes that they are representing more than themselves," Myers said. "Legally we can't tell them they can't tweet, but we ask them to circumspect what they put out there."
However, while Myers said this is a topic addressed by the coaches, some athletes struggle with being in the public eye.
"There is a social media policy for student-athletes. Players are reminded that they have followers and it is public, and it not only reflects on them, but the program as well," Myers said. "What they post is not just something they say personally to their friends, and I think they sometimes forget that."
N.C. State's student-athlete policy for the use of social networking sites is similar to Myers' comment, reading that athletes have a right to free speech—but it is a limited right as a result of their status.
"As a public institution of higher education, N.C. State University supports and encourages its student-athletes' rights to freedom of speech, expression and association, including the use of social networks," the policy reads. "Nevertheless, as representatives of the University, student-athletes are held to a higher standard and are role models. Playing and competing for N.C. State is a privilege, not a right. In this context, each student-athlete has the responsibility to portray him or herself, the team, and N.C. State in a positive manner at all times."
According to Justine Hollingshead, director of the GLBT Center, said Leslie should have said something different if he meant something different.
"When you use social media, it is very damaging because it becomes viral. In a matter of hours, one comment has now become something that people all over the world will see. It reflects on the University, the new coach and the basketball team," Hollingshead said. "Not only does the comment need to be addressed by the basketball coach and the athletic department, it's definitely an area we want to address as a community to be sure every athlete feels they are accepted on campus and that they aren't treated differently. Because if you were a member of any N.C. State sports team struggling with your sexuality, you certainly wouldn't come out now."
Hollingshead said Leslie's comment is both an affront to many students within the University, but also to student-athletes who are members of the GLBT community.
"Leslie's clueless to think that there aren't members of the GLBT community involved in N.C. State athletics as well as in teams from other universities," Hollingshead said.
According to Hollingshead, if the University does not actively stand against these comments, and others like them, it will reinforce homophobic behavior, even encouraging it.
"It needs to be addressed immediately, and the University needs to take a really strong stance. These comments may seem benign, but this one comment could then lead to the next person who says ‘well I hate fags' and then the next person may actually act on it," Hollingshead said. "The University needs to say that this is not acceptable in any form. They need to be vocal and transparent about this, and that this type of behavior won't continue."
Hollingshead said she encourages Gottfried and other people in the athletics department to sit down with their players and faculty members to discuss this issue, so that these comments will not continue to plague the University.
"If no one tells [Leslie] the comments are unacceptable and certainly not welcoming, it will set up the notion that it's OK, and it perpetuates that homophobia. People will think ‘If CJ Leslie said it, or XYZ person said it, then it must be OK,'" Hollingshead said. "He needs to know from coach Gottfried that this comment is not acceptable, and that it's not the environment or the climate we want to create on campus, particularly in an environment—athletics—that's already homophobic."
Ultimately, Myers said while the University does not support Leslie's comment, this would be handled by the basketball coach, Mark Gottfried.
Athletics Director Debbie Yow and recently hired men's basketball coach Mark Gottfried were both unavailable for comment." |
[Edited on May 11, 2011 at 7:53 AM. Reason : fuck it lets quote it]5/11/2011 7:40:20 AM |
Novicane All American 15416 Posts user info edit post |
jesus fucking christ just do away with the twitter and facebook for all NCSU athletic sports and move on. 5/11/2011 7:44:51 AM |
BigMan157 no u 103354 Posts user info edit post |
IM SO ANGRY SOMEONE HAS A DIFFERING OPINION FROM MINE
also, lol @Follow24Hodge
Quote : | "And Mr John Amechi you have a problem with this "teenager's" comments? But when you were 15 you were assigned to "shower moniter" and.." |
Quote : | "In your words " was an exhilarating sight".So u can see why there can be diff generalized feelings over the "gays in locker room" comment..." |
Quote : | "I think if you would have taken the time to talk to this "teenager" and not lash out at him your "words" could have helped educate him.." |
Quote : | "..And not the opposite. Education can help "everyone understand" Mr. Amechi. #NCSTATEgraduate #WolfBlood!!" |
5/11/2011 7:52:42 AM |
DoeoJ has 7062 Posts user info edit post |
ha i liked hodge's response.
but still all around 5/11/2011 8:20:36 AM |
ThePeter TWW CHAMPION 37709 Posts user info edit post |
Oh lawd the campus fags have caught wind of this
Now we'll never hear the end of it 5/11/2011 9:22:00 AM |
Bullet All American 28412 Posts user info edit post |
you mean guys like this ^ ?
Quote : | "Checking packpride is like asking your grandpa, who drops the n word from time to time, about the president." |
5/11/2011 9:27:14 AM |
BanjoMan All American 9609 Posts user info edit post |
any press is good press 5/11/2011 9:28:10 AM |
robster All American 3545 Posts user info edit post |
However, I would suggest that as the incidence of these damaging and obtuse perspectives is ever increasing, we should remind those that can’t resist spewing bigotry in 140 characters, that their right to speak exposes them to of right of balanced and educated people to rip their puny logic and hypocritical perspectives to pieces and call them out as ignorant.
something about that sentence does not make sense .... I sure hope Ameechi didn't hire a PR guy to proof read that ... 5/11/2011 9:35:27 AM |
spydyrwyr All American 3021 Posts user info edit post |
I expect that, much like the UNC scandal, our team will be better thanks to this controversy and I fully expect us to be a darkhorse national title contender next season. 5/11/2011 9:38:28 AM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
what fucking university paper writes that many words about tweets instead of ignoring it? jesus christ. it's like the technician thinks it's their job to break fucking stories. 5/11/2011 9:39:35 AM |
robster All American 3545 Posts user info edit post |
lmao at hodge ... dude is funny ...
Pauly Castillano MartianWorldNC Pauly Castillano #whatmoviequoteisthis ion like that shit, ion like that shit one bit! 8 hours ago Favorite Retweet Reply in reply to ? Julius Hodge @Follow24Hodge Julius Hodge @MartianWorldNC ol' buddy from belly who was eating the banana #noamechi and had the perm hahaha 8 hours ago via Twitter for BlackBerry® Favorite Retweet Reply replies ? » Pauly Castillano MartianWorldNC Pauly Castillano @ @Follow24Hodge lmao, #noameachi though....lmao 8 hours ago Favorite Retweet Reply Mentioned in this Tweet
funny as shit .... noameachi 5/11/2011 9:39:45 AM |
AuH20 All American 1604 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | ""It needs to be addressed immediately, and the University needs to take a really strong stance. These comments may seem benign, but this one comment could then lead to the next person who says ‘well I hate fags' and then the next person may actually act on it," Hollings head said." |
5/11/2011 9:57:27 AM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "IM SO ANGRY SOMEONE HAS A DIFFERING OPINION FROM MINE" |
Yeah, that's not even the point here5/11/2011 10:09:55 AM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27825 Posts user info edit post |
^^exactly.
The university doesn't need to do shit with this. Leslie posted his opinion on a social issue. Some people don't like it. BIG GODDAMN DEAL.
Quote : | "Given that tweet, he obviously doesn’t want books in his dorm room or teachers in his classrooms. " |
And now I have no respect for http://www.outsports.com, because that is some downright retarded logic right there.
[Edited on May 11, 2011 at 10:12 AM. Reason : CARROTS]
[Edited on May 11, 2011 at 10:15 AM. Reason : just read that retarded article]5/11/2011 10:11:42 AM |
ThePeter TWW CHAMPION 37709 Posts user info edit post |
I, for one, think we should make an affirmative action decision and ensure there will always be at least 1 NCSU LGBT Community approved fag in the locker room when athletes are present. They can make it a weekly contest or something. 5/11/2011 10:18:01 AM |
AstralEngine All American 3864 Posts user info edit post |
I think sophomore Eric Dobbins is CJ's biggest fan [no homo] 5/11/2011 10:39:40 AM |
adder All American 3901 Posts user info edit post |
Jesus tittyfucking christ. He said he would rather not have a gay dude in the locker room. I think most straight dudes being completely honest would say the same thing. I also wouldn't like a fat nasty woman in a locker room w/ me. So fucking what. I don't like the idea of something that I don't desire trying to sneak a peek in the locker room. Hell the Amaechi dude even admits to getting excited by being a fucking shower monitor as a kid. Honesty in America is dead. 5/11/2011 10:43:45 AM |
TallyHo All American 11744 Posts user info edit post |
i've never understood why hodge has to put #noamechi in half his tweets
lil wayne says "no homo" all the time but perhaps he feels like he has to explain away those photos of him and birdman
why would a secure person do that? does he feel like a lot of people think he's gay? does he not realize that spending half his tweets going "HEY EVERYONE IM NOT GAY" would cause people to think "@Follow24Hodge? maybe he's more like ~Follow24Hodge"
personally, i don't care if hodge hangs out at flex every night, i just don't get the preemptive declarations
[Edited on May 11, 2011 at 11:00 AM. Reason : p] 5/11/2011 10:53:01 AM |
aph319 All American 8570 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I think most straight dudes being completely honest would say the same thing" |
umm, might need to rethink that one.5/11/2011 10:57:42 AM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Jesus tittyfucking christ. He said he would rather not have a gay dude in the locker room." |
He also said Amaechi is "too big to be gay", which is just crass and ignorant. This was all unsolicited, too. He should be smart enough to know that he's a public figure and saying shit like this just incites trouble. If that's his opinion, fine, whatever, he's 19 and 19 year-olds are pretty dumb. But there's no reason air that shit out on Twitter. I mean what if Scott Wood said I don't really like black dudes in my sociology class, Lorenzo Brown is too well-spoken to be black. I know guys like ThePeter would rally behind that, but I'd hope the rest of you aren't as stupid as you appear to be.]5/11/2011 11:12:47 AM |
bigun20 All American 2847 Posts user info edit post |
I 100% support Leslie here.
Hes not saying he dosent like or support gays, all hes saying is that he doesnt want then in the lockerroom.
Why do we have seperate locker rooms to begin with? It's not because the guys dont want to see the girls or vice versa, its to protect the individuals privacy. Leslie is saying he dosent want some gay guy checking him out while hes changing and I cant say I blame him. Its a respect thing. If you ask me, the university or any other atheltic facility should provide players a place to dress without having to worry about someone checking them out.
I am seriously waiting for a lawsuit where a straight athelete (victim) is being pursued by an openly gay teammate in the lockerroom. 5/11/2011 11:14:10 AM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
I don't like black people in the parking deck because I'm afraid they'll steal my speakers
Who's with me 5/11/2011 11:15:21 AM |
adder All American 3901 Posts user info edit post |
I agree the "too big to be gay" thing is absolutely stupid and there is no defense for that.
Quote : | " Leslie is saying he dosent want some gay guy checking him out while hes changing and I cant say I blame him. Its a respect thing. If you ask me, the university or any other atheltic facility should provide players a place to dress without having to worry about someone checking them out. " |
I am pretty sure he wouldn't want some hideous woman in there checking him out as well. ^Do you want a gay guy sneeking a peek at your junk in a locker room while you are changing? There are some places where sexual pressures are not present and the locker room is one of them. There is a reason why we have locker rooms segregated by sexes.
[Edited on May 11, 2011 at 11:19 AM. Reason : asdf]
[Edited on May 11, 2011 at 11:22 AM. Reason : asdf]5/11/2011 11:16:47 AM |
aph319 All American 8570 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "provide players a place to dress without having to worry about someone checking them out" |
Why don't we just have separate locker rooms for everyone? Then you don't have to worry unless you don't like checking yourself out in the mirror. You're pretty much screwed then.5/11/2011 11:22:57 AM |
Bullet All American 28412 Posts user info edit post |
As already mentioned. Having an opinion is one thing, that's fine. Tweeting it is another thing(especially when you're a public figure and representing (kinda) the university and the team).
It's not that hard. 5/11/2011 11:23:21 AM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
Innocent victim of technology. If twitter was out 20-30 years ago everyone then would've gotten in trouble too.
Quote : | "@KermitWashington: Ha knocked that fool tomjohnavich the fuck out" |
Quote : | "@theREALzekeThomas: Sick of hearing how great Bird is...would be just another dude if he wuznt white" |
Quote : | "@LandoverLen: Hell yeah boy number 2 pick...break out the champagne glasses and the motherfucking condoms" |
5/11/2011 11:24:37 AM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Do you want a gay guy sneeking a peek at your junk in a locker room while you are changing" |
I could not possibly give less of a fuck
100% secure in my heterosexuality here
Look all you want, gay dudes]5/11/2011 11:25:20 AM |
Bullet All American 28412 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Do you want a gay guy sneeking a peek at your junk in a locker room while you are changing" |
Not even about that. It's about tweeting it.
[Edited on May 11, 2011 at 11:28 AM. Reason : with that said, the technician definitely went overboard on this silly shit.]5/11/2011 11:27:00 AM |
aph319 All American 8570 Posts user info edit post |
CJ just tweeted an apology. 5/11/2011 11:30:36 AM |
adder All American 3901 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I could not possibly give less of a fuck
100% secure in my heterosexuality here
Look all you want, gay dudes" |
What about a gay guy sitting outside your window watching you and fapping? What about being in the locker room and you get groped on? Honestly the only real coherent response is to stop segregating the locker rooms by gender.
[Edited on May 11, 2011 at 11:34 AM. Reason : asdf]
[Edited on May 11, 2011 at 11:35 AM. Reason : asdf]5/11/2011 11:32:25 AM |
Bullet All American 28412 Posts user info edit post |
^what does that have to do with cj leslie, a high-profile member of our NCSU basketball team, tweeting about how he doesn't want gays in the locker room with him? 5/11/2011 11:34:50 AM |
adder All American 3901 Posts user info edit post |
He could have also said that he didn't want fat ugly chicks in the locker room. However no one is suggesting that athletes should be comfortable with fat ugly chicks being in the locker room.
I truly believe that most people (being honest) wouldn't be comfortable with being viewed in a sexual manner in a locker room. Ernie was stating that he wasn't at all uncomfortable with that he is either being A. Disingenuous or B. He is so hideous he gets off on the idea that anything would be attracted to him. 5/11/2011 11:39:09 AM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
C. He's so good looking that the only thing that arouses him anymore is a reflection of himself in the mirror 5/11/2011 11:45:47 AM |
ThePeter TWW CHAMPION 37709 Posts user info edit post |
CJ Leslie doesn't want fat little shower monitors 5/11/2011 11:49:14 AM |