Quote :

"and every would-be great 2nd half performance by the defense has been ruined by crushing INTs by cam"

except not at all

10/8/2013 10:13:04 AM

Williams fumble inside the ten = Cam Int
4th and 2 field goals = Cam Int

10/8/2013 10:34:12 AM

^^ You right. There's been quite a few times where Cam put them in position and the defense shit the bed.

Tampa and ATL last year come immediately to mind. Buffalo this year was all on the defense.

10/8/2013 11:00:32 AM

clearly the entirety of the Cam Newton's career with the panthers is the 4 games this season

edit: http://espn.go.com/nfl/recap?gameId=320909027
http://espn.go.com/nfl/recap?gameId=321007029 (no INTs but 12/29 and 190 total yards of offense)
http://espn.go.com/nfl/recap?gameId=321021029
http://espn.go.com/nfl/boxscore?gameId=321028003

[Edited on October 8, 2013 at 11:59 AM. Reason : 12]

10/8/2013 11:55:49 AM

^ looking at that made me realize that the team scores absolutely no points. unreal

10/8/2013 12:03:12 PM

Quote :

"he has an awful line protecting him and an extremely bland offensive coordinator not to mention no weapons and the worst head coach in the league "

yeah I pretty much wrote off this season due to the do nothing policy on wide receiver for the last few years, at least one positive is we have a new GM

10/8/2013 12:16:58 PM

^^ those were cherry picked games from last season. we can score but cam has limitations and clear weaknesses. i think I read somewhere the he's the most blitzed QB in the league this year because he sucks when blitzed and the cardinals brought more than 4 guys the entire game or something.

cam really needs a coach who understands his strengths and weaknesses. he has jack shit. the weapons around him are not great but good QBs succeed in spite of that. it's hard when the weapons suck and the coaches suck, though.

it's a huge shame we didnt fire rivera in the offseason because we need to know how good cam is before giving him a $100 mil contract

10/8/2013 12:51:58 PM

we aren't scoring any points this season besides the Giants game and...LOL at that

10/8/2013 12:55:18 PM

Armanti has been cut

Bill Barwell points out that had we kept the pick we traded to get Armanti, Torrey Smith or Randall Cobb could have been picked

10/8/2013 3:15:38 PM

It's an absolute miracle he lasted this long, but I don't really understand what cutting him at this point of the season accomplishes. I'm on board with it though if for no other reason than I don't have to hear about how great of a camp he's having next summer.

10/8/2013 3:17:09 PM

I'm 100% fine with Armanti being cut

I figured the only reason he stuck around so far this season (despite his great training camp!) was to be the emergency 3rd QB in case Cam and Anderson both got hurt

and Silatolu is out for the year (didn't see it in the thread)

[Edited on October 8, 2013 at 3:21 PM. Reason : .]

10/8/2013 3:20:30 PM

Quote :

"had we kept the pick we traded to get Armanti, Torrey Smith or Randall Cobb could have been picked"

to be fair, its not like they would have made much of a difference with our coaching staff

10/8/2013 3:41:50 PM

Bye bye armanti

10/8/2013 3:46:43 PM

^^

10/8/2013 5:12:03 PM

Quote :

"A source close to Adrian Peterson confirmed to Profootballtalk that Peterson is dealing with a "tragic" personal situation in Sioux Falls, South Dakota. On Thursday, the Argus Leader reported that Peterson remained in Sioux Falls "dealing with a medical issue involving a young family member that likely will be a police matter" and that is a "very serious" health situation. No other details are known at the moment. Peterson did not practice Thursday. Once further details emerge, we'll pass them along. We've yet to see any concern that Peterson will miss Sunday's game against the Panthers, but it's a fluid situation"

[Edited on October 11, 2013 at 10:28 AM. Reason : now we're in business]

10/11/2013 10:16:57 AM

it wont matter, their practice team RB will have a career day, 200 yards and 3 TDs

10/11/2013 10:26:20 AM

apparently it is his 2 year old son, who was beaten into critical condition by his baby's mommas boyfriend. wow

10/11/2013 10:58:17 AM

I hope AP killed that fucker

10/11/2013 11:15:50 AM

that's fucking awful

and to counteract that awfulness, I'll post this awesome article

http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/9806344/bill-barnwell-carolina-panthers-offense

10/11/2013 11:36:37 AM

Jesus christ are people really serious about wanting to bench newton?!

If these idiots run off Newton i'm going to get pissed off. We ran off kerry collins in 1997 and it's took us 13 fucking years to get another franchise QB for god's sake.

The guy isn't Peyton Manning. Got it.

We would have been much better off taking Patrick Peterson. Got it.

We couldve held out for Andrew Luck or RG III. Understood.


But the guy is still a top 15 QB in this league with the potential to be a top 5 QB. If anything we're just lowering his asking price for his next contract which could help us build a contender around him once we undo all the Hurney damage.

Just stop.

10/11/2013 5:22:21 PM

lol at RG3

10/11/2013 5:24:03 PM

the barnwell article makes a lot of good points about how much the rest of the team sucks

none of which has anything to do with how good cam is

10/11/2013 5:33:03 PM

Cam almost singlehandedly gives us an effective running game. It makes us nearly impossible to defend in short yardage and goaline situations. It also helps open up the rest of the running game because you have to respect the read option.

In the passing game our o-line is flat out blowing a lot of blocks. A less mobile QB would be getting killed back there. How many sacks has he wiggled out of this year and made a play or at least gotten rid of the ball? Significantly more than an average mobile QB would have that's for sure.

His accuracy has seemed to improve from last year when he was a bit erratic.

Let's face it. We have a #1 WR in Smitty who should have been moved to the slot this year. He's lost a step and his hands have been spotty the last few years.

We have a #2 WR that isn't really NFL quality starter. And we have a #3 who is basically just a deep threat and hasn't proven he can even consistently be a very good one at that.

We've moved the ball fairly effectively, we just haven't capitalized with enough points. He's done a good job protecting the ball, save for last week.

This is also just his third season. He's got a lot to learn. It's WAY too early to give up on this guy. With his size, arm, and speed he's going to be a productive QB for a long time in this league. Whether he's an elite QB, who knows? But he's definitely worth keeping around to find out. Simply too much potential if he ever does put it all together, and even if he doesn't you can still definitely contend with Cam Newton.

There are 10 teams right now who would kill for Cam Newton and at least another 10 who would consider swapping their QB for Cam Newton right this moment. In fact, I can't think of a single other QB in the league who I would definitively trade Cam for straight up.

If we had a sick roster right now Manning, Brady, and Brees would all be interesting, but given our roster and their age I don't think I'd make those deals as things stand at the moment.

[Edited on October 11, 2013 at 5:46 PM. Reason : a]

10/11/2013 5:42:13 PM

I'd take Rodgers in a heart beat, but otherwise I agree.

10/11/2013 5:58:18 PM

Yeah agreed. And you can add russell and probably luck to that list. Kaep if he snaps outta his funk. Probably ryan too but I think thats it.

Thats not to say alex smith and several others are not definitively better than cam right now. But would you want them over cam for the next 6-10 years? Too early to call in my opinion. I mean smith sucked hos first several years in the league. Cam didnt.

10/11/2013 6:36:35 PM

AP is about to rip us a new asshole Sunday.

That will be a man on a mission.

10/11/2013 9:17:18 PM

I think we hold him to a pedestrian game of 112 yards and 1 TD

or he makes Kuechly tear his ACL and concusses half of our secondary

10/11/2013 9:21:54 PM

He may record the NFLs first flying touchdown sunday.

10/11/2013 10:08:32 PM

either way we're fucked, Minnesota will rally for AP whether he plays or not. just like when we played NO in the Katrina Bowl

10/12/2013 12:17:31 AM

and kansas city last year...one of their 2 wins i believe following the murder suicide of that linebacker.

10/12/2013 12:35:42 AM

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/9812991/adrian-peterson-minnesota-vikings-expected-play-sunday-two-days-death-son-source-says

over/under on AP touchdowns?

10/12/2013 3:34:25 PM

I don't see how he can possibly play through this without being distracted. Either he's going to play poorly or he'll be the first RB to run for 700 yards on a single carry - breaking the spines of 11 defenders, 10 teammates, and 6 referees before spiking the ball at midfield.

10/12/2013 4:06:08 PM

I can only imagine the unbridled rage that he has pent up after this series of events.

He'll probably see the face of that POS that beat his kid to death on every defender tomorrow.

10/12/2013 7:50:24 PM

flea flicker TE screen...awesome

10/13/2013 1:58:53 PM

at first I questioned if it was a designed play ...it was.

10/13/2013 2:11:49 PM

Nice touchdown by ol' Donald Lafell

10/13/2013 2:48:50 PM

Donald Lafell > Brandon

10/13/2013 3:00:15 PM

Quote :

"It's all Vikings"

Sam Rosen has to be the stupidest fucking announcer in the NFL

10/13/2013 3:15:45 PM

good lawd. the josh freeman era has begun already in Minnesota.

this reminds me of when delhomme threw his 99th interception and I wanted to call congress. lol

10/13/2013 3:30:57 PM

Carolina Crackbacks

10/13/2013 3:31:36 PM

Smitty and Ginn both have laid some hellacious blocks this game

10/13/2013 3:32:12 PM

Quote :

"That hit was all Chad Greenway."

10/13/2013 3:32:35 PM

We are "literally shoving footballs down their throats."

Ambulances all over the field.

[Edited on October 13, 2013 at 3:37 PM. Reason : ]

10/13/2013 3:36:58 PM

10/13/2013 4:06:21 PM

Every single person who saw that happen in the gif laughed, except for the blonde cheerleader

10/13/2013 4:08:51 PM

just got back from the game, holy crap

10/13/2013 6:22:58 PM

If I'm gonna give Shula shit when he sucks, I'm gonna give him props when he does well.

The guy called a hell of a game today, especially in the first half. Minn couldn't key on anything we were doing and looked like they were completely guessing on run/pass a majority of the half.

We threw a couple of well timed screens when they blitzed. Hopefully that's a lesson from the Cardinal game when he didn't call any and it would have been there all day.

I think beef stew gets back next week and helps give this O another weapon.

Damn I wanna be 500 next sunday.

10/13/2013 8:22:00 PM

Since Rivera took over 2+ years ago, the only coach in the league less likely to go for it on 4th down has been... John Fox.

Great to see Rivera actually making adjustments and taking some risks on 4th down these past few weeks. Of course, it's easier to make those calls early in the game, or when you're way behind. We'll see if Rivera has truly learned anything next time the Panthers have a chance to seal a win on 4th and short.

10/14/2013 12:47:45 PM

he says he's always gonna go for it on 4th and short now

I'll stay cautiously optimistic, because it really isn't as simple as that

but we'll see

10/14/2013 1:40:28 PM

He's pretty much got to go balls out, he's coaching for his job now and he knows it.

10/14/2013 1:45:58 PM