for the new page

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"dude, can a mod delete that post? thats pretty creepy and borderline stalker-like. if Ryan does in fact read this damn message board, I'm sure he wouldnt appreciate the fact that someone put in the time to look up and post his address. and yes, I know it was blatantly pointed out in the video, you still didnt have to take it a step furthe"

4/25/2010 9:35:23 AM

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"Quote : "dude, can a mod delete that post? thats pretty creepy and borderline stalker-like. if Ryan does in fact read this damn message board, I'm sure he wouldnt appreciate the fact that someone put in the time to look up and post his address. and yes, I know it was blatantly pointed out in the video, you still didnt have to take it a step furthe""

4/25/2010 9:43:29 AM

You could've just left it at the bottom of the page where nobody would see it rather then draw more attention to it.

4/25/2010 9:54:57 AM

well if thats the case, go ahead and delete my post as well. it doesnt matter to me if my post stays up or not

4/25/2010 10:12:45 AM

Oh I think it matters

4/25/2010 10:35:30 AM

http://packinsider.com/2010/04/video-high-school-hopefuls-ryan-harrow/

here are the videos, both are 9+ minutes but go really in depth. The best part is about halfway thru the second one when his HS coach is talking about how hard he works and then his dad talks about him growing up and getting offered by NCSU... great stuff

[Edited on April 25, 2010 at 12:00 PM. Reason : word usage fart]

4/25/2010 12:00:20 PM

looks good for mabry

http://www.newsobserver.com/2010/04/25/452997/mabry-decision-likely-this-week.html#ixzz0m7212DBu

4/25/2010 12:55:18 PM

BigEgo

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"By calling it a Hickson situation, that suggests that our current players aren't willing to work hard for their PT. That was the source of the "chemistry problem"."

How do you know what the source of the chemistry problem was? Were you on the team? A coach? Oh that's right, lets listen to hearsay and speculation. Even if it was lack of effort, I recognized that this was a different situation.

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" You never deny talent that will help you. CJ Leslie will help us for the 1-2 years on the court. He'll also help us after he's gone with future recruits, just like Hickson did. The most talent we can get into the NBA, the more NBA caliber talent we'll get."

I never said to deny talent that will help us, all I said was that we don't get enough one-and-dones to keep it revolving and that we shouldn't completely deny others PT. See infra

DROD900

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"yeah, this is just about the dumbest argument ever. hey guys, lets not bring in great players because there is a chance that they will be too good and leave after one year. Instead, lets make sure we give our mediocre players more playing time because they could be here longer than the great player."

Actually, I said that I wanted CJL here. All I said was that I didn't want CJL to get all the PT and to make sure we don't deny all others PT. I never said to give the "mediocre" (as you call them, even though people were praising Painter as the next Hickson when we got him) more playing time. I actually said to give CJL the majority of the PT.

Bottom line (again)

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"don't get me wrong, i'd love for CJL to be in a NCSU jersey"

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"I personally, believe that since we don't get enough one-and-dones to keep it revolving, that we should develop (i.e. give them game time experience, especially in ACC play) the players that we are going to need two years from now instead of playing a one-and-done all the time (meaning that CJL should play the majority of the time if he proves to be better than everyone else, but lets not overlook the guys that we are going to depend on two years from now)"

/rant

[Edited on April 25, 2010 at 2:30 PM. Reason : [u]]

4/25/2010 2:29:52 PM

just stop, man.

4/25/2010 2:32:05 PM

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" I recognized that this was a different situation. "

Then why say we're going to have another "Hickson Situation?"

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"I never said to deny talent that will help us, all I said was that we don't get enough one-and-dones to keep it revolving and that we shouldn't completely deny others PT"

So we should give the PT to guys who might be here 4 years instead of guys who will help us more today? That'll work well for Chemistry when the best players don't play. That'll provide wins. That'll also probably get us more of these elite talents won't it? I mean, isn't it the dream of ultra talented players to sit on the bench behind less talented players who are going to be there longer?

Just stop

4/25/2010 2:41:34 PM

1-2 years for Leslie

LOL


...only if he rips his Achilles -- then he still might get drafted anyways

4/25/2010 2:46:56 PM

We could get 2 years out of Leslie if the lockout happens and he wants to play basketball while it's happening.

4/25/2010 2:54:44 PM

there will be a mass exodus to Europe if/when the lockout happens, from the NBA and college

tons of one year contracts

4/25/2010 3:05:47 PM

I have a feeling a lot of the guys that can stay in college another year will.

4/25/2010 3:11:10 PM

yea but a lot of guys that KNOW they are one and done will want to go somewhere to get paid...doubt they wanna continue actually studying.

4/25/2010 3:12:35 PM

If that were the case you'd see more one and dones taking the Jennings route to the NBA

4/25/2010 3:13:48 PM

its like Knight said though. most of the one and dones can play and not even go to class in the spring semester once and still be on a championship team.

thats ridiculous to me.

4/25/2010 3:15:11 PM

^^ come on man, they are already getting paid

4/25/2010 3:15:32 PM

i wonder if CJ is as good as he thinks he is

4/25/2010 3:15:50 PM

That assumes european league can handle everyone going over there.

That assumes its a good thing for the Euro league to take in so many recruits that plan on going to the NBA.

That assumes that it will not be any harder to get into the NBA after going to the Euro league and the lockout is lifted. There will be classes right behind them ready to make the jump to the NBA.

They will most likely get more exposure in the NCAA and would therefor be more beneficial to stay in the US.

4/25/2010 3:16:12 PM

i love money and I hate school

i, for one, would take the Jennings route to the NBA

4/25/2010 3:18:20 PM

theres not many kids that were as good as JEnnings though...they could go to a college team that suits them well, play and be a STAR and improve their stock...whereas if they go to a Euro team and get exposed it hurts...sure they get $$ but a college team that NEEDS you and plays into your style can dramatically improve your stock

and omg, D-Wade.

4/25/2010 3:21:48 PM

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"even though people were praising Painter as the next Hickson when we got him"

i don't recall anyone saying any such thing

4/25/2010 3:34:15 PM

That lockout happens it's a lot more likely we see Leslie in college for another year than him go off to Europe.

And yeah, no one was saying Painter was the next Hickson. Hickson was an absolute beast from day one that was going to be here 2 years maximum. Painter is and has been thought to be very raw and will likely be here 3 years minimum.

4/25/2010 3:46:29 PM

if Painter is the next Hickson, does that mean Javi, Tracy and Howell are thinking about transferring?

4/25/2010 4:04:29 PM

I think it means that Horner must have been a butt hurt bitch all year

4/25/2010 4:13:25 PM

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"He averaged 24.2 points, 8.2 rebounds, 4.5 blocks, 1.5 steals and 1.4 assists. He finished his career with 2,411 points, passing former Gryphons point guard Phil Ford to become the school's all-time scorer."

oh, snap!

if he's half the player phil ford was, we're getting a good one.

4/25/2010 4:34:12 PM

jesus christ man.

4/25/2010 5:08:59 PM

would he have half the drinking problem too?

4/25/2010 5:16:38 PM

i heard that Josh Davis has a good shot at breaking Josh Hamilton's streak of 13 home runs in a row at the Derby

4/25/2010 5:31:21 PM

Mabry and CJL supposedly will announce this week

4/25/2010 5:55:33 PM

ncstatetke, can you try to stop ruining this thread

4/25/2010 6:01:27 PM

^I concur.
^^

4/25/2010 6:01:50 PM

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"That assumes its a good thing for the Euro league to take in so many recruits that plan on going to the NBA."

Are you serious? You can't be...

Do you think a team in Greece wouldn't love to have a guy like Leslie or Selby or Knight for a season over the likes of a Marcus Melvin or Courtney Fells?

4/25/2010 6:03:37 PM

bitch, this thread has been ruined 100 times over

4/25/2010 6:07:13 PM

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"1-2 years for Leslie"

damn I knew he was gonna wait awhile to announce where he was committing, but he's gonna wait 1-2 years?!!?

4/25/2010 6:07:30 PM

no, no, TreeTwista. I think he means he would play in college for 1-2 years before declaring for the nba draft

:-|

4/25/2010 6:12:28 PM

4/25/2010 6:14:10 PM

a little background information on mabry

http://www.rockymounttelegram.com/sports/mabry-has-more-just-pure-talent-his-side-18245

sounds like a good kid, i hope we get him

4/25/2010 6:18:49 PM

rivals has a story on the front page that harrow hurt is wrist. anyone know anything more?

4/25/2010 7:35:34 PM

My preliminary googling suggests he broke his wrist.

4/25/2010 7:39:14 PM

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"My preliminary googling suggests he broke his wrist."

lol.. i would be mad, if i hadn't already been expecting this

4/25/2010 7:40:57 PM

on his shooting arm?

4/25/2010 7:44:11 PM

I just did a google search for "ryan harrow broken wrist" and the only thing that comes up are stories about ryan harrow and ed davis' broken wrist

dont flip out yet guys, jesus

4/25/2010 7:47:29 PM

didn't you get the memo? This is the flipping out thread. j/k

I'm with ^^^. Shit like this is expected.

4/25/2010 7:51:03 PM

I couldn't find it on rivals or anything on google...

4/25/2010 7:52:51 PM

^http://ncstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1078195

4/25/2010 7:53:53 PM

.`.

[Edited on April 25, 2010 at 7:57 PM. Reason : .]

4/25/2010 7:56:44 PM

The googling I was referring to really could be way off...the first link from "ryan harrow wrist" is from scout and mentions ryan harrow and "stinks he broke his wrist", but you really can't tell if the wrist part is talking about harrow.

4/25/2010 7:59:17 PM

http://ncstate.rivals.com/default.asp

Second headline here. Doesn't mention how bad though.

4/25/2010 8:00:50 PM