lol...yeah i wasn't saying he'd commit here because his brother was here. i was just pointing out that that was his brother.

12/4/2015 11:44:07 AM

He chose UNC.....

12/4/2015 8:59:50 PM

SHOCKING

12/4/2015 9:13:09 PM

we suck

12/5/2015 10:38:48 AM

RED LIGHT IS ON
3*** Safety- Isiah Stallings

http://sports.yahoo.com/byu/football/recruiting/player-Isaiah-Stallings-159705

[Edited on December 7, 2015 at 9:20 PM. Reason : thank God a safety]

12/7/2015 9:17:15 PM

19th ranked prospect in the state. Nice add

12/7/2015 9:28:27 PM

fwiw, 2 of our top 3 "rivals rated" prospect are db's and another is right behind them, thank god. we def need some

[Edited on December 7, 2015 at 9:37 PM. Reason : ^^lol why did you use byu rivals?]

here is a much better link, haha
https://rivals.yahoo.com/ncstate/football/recruiting/player-Isaiah-Stallings-159705

[Edited on December 7, 2015 at 9:38 PM. Reason : a]

12/7/2015 9:35:36 PM

I think he'll move up to LB. He's 6'4/200lbs with a 4.93 40. That's not a DB

12/7/2015 10:10:58 PM

^4.93??? Not a LB, maybe an OT though

12/7/2015 10:42:00 PM

Ha. Yeah still slow for a LB, but definitely not DB speed

12/7/2015 10:46:55 PM

pretty impressive offer list (assuming it's accurate)

clemson, unc, ole miss, south carolina, west virginia

12/7/2015 10:59:07 PM

we've still got a few DBs left on our board and supposedly will take two more out of Nick McCloud, Bryce Banks, Carlos Becker, and Henry Miller (assuming two of those guys are willing to commit)

12/7/2015 11:24:46 PM

Those 40 times on rivals are always off

12/8/2015 2:25:12 AM

Quote :

"@TheWolfpacker NCSU new commitment (as an offensive tackle though) https://t.co/DZc7czgJCl"

No star OT

12/8/2015 11:15:48 AM

i think he's a 2 star...only played football for like 2 years. He flipped from ECU. Sorry Ruff.

[Edited on December 8, 2015 at 11:16 AM. Reason : asdf]

12/8/2015 11:16:32 AM

he was a 2* DE that we will be converting to an OT. Projects typically aren't highly rated, but why not if we see potential at a different position. He is a big dude

12/8/2015 11:52:33 AM

Yea i didnt mean it as a knock, just that I didn't see him rated on rivals.

12/8/2015 12:26:34 PM

We want dbs who can just cover the flats and sit on short routes while focusing on getting off blocks and stopping the run in the modern game. Think about them more as SS and not CB in the system we want to run.

5 "dbs" (2Cb 2SS/LB 1FS)

2 "lbs" (2LB/SS)

4 "DLs" (2DT 2DE/LB)

Its all about hybrid positions, interchangable parts and depth for lots of substitutions and fast pace.

12/8/2015 1:50:13 PM

So... The plan is to get scorched by that one insanely fast WR on the other team every weekend?

12/8/2015 1:59:45 PM

^BC whatever the "scheme" is, it sure didnt work this year. I dont consider myself to be very knowledge about coverage schemes (I was a lineman) but I cant understand how we got gashed this year over and over and never adjusted our safety coverages or LB responsibilities. Either our defensive play calling was obvious and the other teams could recognize it quickly and take advantage or we were consistently exploitable and the teams knew that from kickoff.

12/8/2015 2:14:37 PM

Hate the 4-2-5.

It's suppose to counter the spread by using more DBs but not expose you to the run by having the extra S/LB to help in run support if necessary.

Problem is power-running teams(think BC last year) just ran the ball down our throat.
Then teams with more speed than us just abuse our extra DB trying to play coverage.

The 4-2-5 was the same defense UNC ran last year, and they switched to 4-3 this year. Really wish we'd adjust back, we just can't land the type of LBs we need pitching this 4-2-5 crap to recruits. Have to keep trying to find these tweener athletes that aren't quite fast enough to be safeties but aren't quite big enough to be LBs.

12/8/2015 3:25:23 PM

i thought - and may be wrong - that one of the reasons for the 4-2-5 for our staff was lack of depth at LB. is that not the case?

12/8/2015 3:26:41 PM

We actually had pretty good LB depth DD's first year. He still tried to fit a round peg into a square hole. And we continue to wait for it to pay off. We have the most patient fanbase ever.

12/8/2015 3:38:43 PM

LOL

12/8/2015 4:26:41 PM

^
We are extremely patient. Don't buy that bullshit narrative.

12/8/2015 4:41:16 PM

the lunatic fringe ain't a fringe

12/8/2015 4:47:24 PM

Bullshit. You live in a vacuum. Compare the longevity of our coaching tenures to other power five schools who also endure year after year of mediocrity.

Bitching about coaches (which every school does) and running them off are two separate things.

[Edited on December 8, 2015 at 5:13 PM. Reason : ??]

12/8/2015 5:09:11 PM

Quote :

"^BC whatever the "scheme" is, it sure didnt work this year."

FALSE-NARRATIVE ALERT

5th in the ACC despite playing all three of the top 10 teams.

We got scorched at times because of lack of depth compounded with lack of ball control without shad.

12/8/2015 5:13:27 PM

Quote :

"The 4-2-5 was the same defense UNC ran last year, and they switched to 4-3 this year. Really wish we'd adjust back, we just can't land the type of LBs we need pitching this 4-2-5 crap to recruits. Have to keep trying to find these tweener athletes that aren't quite fast enough to be safeties but aren't quite big enough to be LBs."

If you're going to run something normal or bland, then it just comes down to having better talent than the other team. We've already established that we aren't going to do that in this division. Our wild schemes means that teams will always have to adjust to our style and we can dictate how the game goes. IF you can dictate how the other team plays, your players will be more comfortable and be able to make plays.

Everyone is used to playing against a 4-3. Different is good.

12/8/2015 5:16:05 PM

lol our defense got routinely shredded because #FreeShad

12/8/2015 6:27:56 PM

We started really getting shredded once we stopped being able to run the ball cosistently as one would expect. Dayes and Shad playing wouldve helped our D for sure

12/8/2015 6:38:59 PM

can e man give me a write up on how stealing recruits from ECU and bringing in DBs that run 4.9s is going to have us "closing the gap" with clemson and fsu?

12/9/2015 1:32:53 AM

remember when unc was running a 4-2-5 and had the worst defense in america

wonder what changed

12/9/2015 1:34:10 AM

A base nickel defense is a "wild scheme" according to Coach Earl

Meanwhile Jared the Sandman Fogle hides in the bushes and keeps more accurate 40 yard dash times than a scouting website

I love this thread. We keep getting older, and these recruits stay the same age.

12/9/2015 3:48:06 AM

It doesn't really make a difference if you have a guy called a big db who runs a 4.9 playing the spot of a guy called a small lb who runs the same speed. Its just a matter of play-calling, planning and organization.

12/9/2015 1:10:10 PM

Yeah either way he's going to get burned by the guy he has to cover

12/9/2015 3:01:25 PM

Quote :

" I love this thread. We keep getting older, and these recruits stay the same age."

Yes they do. Yes they do.

12/9/2015 3:45:04 PM

Rivals now shows 4star wr Kelvin Harmon as nc state! #54 in the country

And they've already backed off, still promising though

[Edited on December 10, 2015 at 2:30 PM. Reason : A]

12/10/2015 2:26:09 PM

Yeah apparently Harmon has informed our coaches that he is switching to NC State, but wants to notify the South Carolina coaches before making everything public. Apparently Rivals beat him to the punch though, at least they took it down.

12/10/2015 2:32:14 PM

yeah sounds like it's inevitable that he'll commit here...just not official yet.

4* WR. offers from SCar (obviously), UNC, WV, and some smaller schools.

edit to add: assuming this does happen, i'm guessing that means overton is pretty much a lock for Clemson. seems like folks have been saying he was Clemson lean for a while now anyways.

[Edited on December 10, 2015 at 2:37 PM. Reason : f]

12/10/2015 2:35:21 PM

Depends really. The only reason Overton wanted to come here was lack of existing play-makers at WR and a chance to start early. If Overton thinks he is better than Harmon, it wouldn't really effect his decision.

We were still a long-shot to land Overton, but from what I've read, I doubt he's scared to compete with Harmon. Harmon sounds like a true possession WR, think Overton has more upside.

12/10/2015 2:59:59 PM

Overton is better than Harmon. We don't have anyone to scare him off. Pretty much the only reason he would come to State is so that he could start from day one and we could showcase him. Clemson is loaded with WRs.

So yes...Overton is still in play and still very much a possibility.

12/10/2015 3:33:33 PM

Quote :

"We were still a long-shot to land Overton, but from what I've read, I doubt he's scared to compete with Harmon. Harmon sounds like a true possession WR, think Overton has more upside."

yeah, i didn't mean Overton was scared to compete. I meant that our staff had maybe started pursuing other guys more aggressively if they felt they were out of the running for Overton. But that's just a guess on my part. Maybe it has nothing to do with Overton at all.

[Edited on December 10, 2015 at 3:49 PM. Reason : d]

12/10/2015 3:49:08 PM

and CB Bryce Banks commits today

3* from Missouri

had originally committed to Mizzou. had offers from Mizzou, Illinois, and a bunch MAC schools

12/10/2015 5:22:50 PM

^^there have been other WR's on the board all along that we would have taken in addition Overton and Harmon is better than any of them (by ratings at least)

12/10/2015 6:35:01 PM

Harmon officially decomitted

12/10/2015 9:13:12 PM

^timeline???

12/10/2015 10:14:56 PM

no further news just no longer committed to SC

12/10/2015 10:31:04 PM

Guess the coaches are expecting some attrition, either from current commits or current players, because we aren't slowing down in recruiting.

Still would accept Lawrence, Overton, and Moss I believe without thinking twice.
Also still have Harmon close to committing and Troy Pride visiting this weekend.

Will be interesting to see how this class shakes out. Even splitting Overton and Lawrence with Clemson would be great for us, but pulling both would be a major win for Doeren and Staff.

12/11/2015 7:35:39 AM

People would still complain

12/11/2015 9:22:05 AM