Quote :

"once you logged in it didn't restore your apps?"

Nope, had to install them all manually from the Store's list of "My Apps"

Quote :

"What method did you use? Did you wait until your carrier alerted you the update was ready? "

OTA from Google. It's an unlocked GSM Galaxy Nexus

Quote :

"Did you have backups configured in the "Backup and Reset" section? "

Yep

Quote :

"What ROM did you use?"

https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images#yakjujwr66v

8/6/2013 11:21:23 PM

Did you have a yakju ROM on there previously? And the ota screwed it up?

using a factory image is not the same as flashing a ROM. Using a factory image wipes the device completely.... Was my understanding. Factory images are for fresh starts on Dev devices, or for fixing a "soft brick"

Idunno if you did the image to update, or what... Its a little unclear to me. (Sorry if some of this is obvious to you, just trying to piece together what exactly you did)

nvm, i read your original post, i got you... ota, problems, flash image.

[Edited on August 7, 2013 at 12:35 AM. Reason : .]

8/7/2013 12:28:22 AM

Anyone had any luck getting a usb/unifying/wireless mouse or keyboard working on any of the Nexus devices with an OTG cable? Just got one and I can't get anything to work on the Nexus 7. They all work fine on my Note II.

8/7/2013 9:22:14 AM

grrr I get so frustrated with these Nexus devices. They don't come with any drivers. OTG mouse/keyboard support is supposed to work out of the box and it doesn't and you have to root the thing to mount drives. With my Note II everything works out of the box including drive support.

8/7/2013 10:27:22 AM

anyone know of a wireless camera and app combo for android?

8/7/2013 11:39:49 AM

question about exchange security:

Last page I posted about my company upgrading to MSEx 2010, so when I updated my phone, it forced me to do a security update for exchange to give admin rights to the MSEx admin.... the admin says they have no such policies setup for personal devices and only android devices give this message/warning/update.

What's the risk of me doing the update so I can get work email on my phone? Does the update just make giving permissions available or does it actually go ahead and give said permissions?

8/7/2013 11:59:16 AM

Quote :

"Want a Nexus 5 Preview? Check out the new LG G2 Not much of a leap is required to guess that what we’re looking at here with the LG G2 is Google’s upcoming Nexus 5."

http://www.starkinsider.com/2013/08/nexus-5-preview-check-new-lg-g2.html



So if this becomes the Nexus 5, which version or it will be offered by Verizon: The Nexus branded device, or the one with LG's crap on top of the OS?

More details: http://reviews.cnet.com/smartphones/lg-g2/4505-6452_7-35826159.html

Not sure how I feel about the size: 5.45 inches tall and 2.79 wid


Looks pretty enticing to me

Snapdragon 800 quad-core processor
2GB RAM + dedicated video RAM
Huge battery (can't remove, caring less about this point personally)
1080p display
LTE Advanced



[Edited on August 7, 2013 at 2:57 PM. Reason : ]

8/7/2013 2:41:30 PM

^ the specs look nice...the 800 is a worthwhile jump from the 600, IMO

still hate the idea of a fixed battery since it seems like a bad idea to (unnecessarily) lock in the single component most likely to fail

8/7/2013 3:42:12 PM

it's 3000mAh though

course with that screen and proc it'll probably need it

gimme gimme gimme

8/7/2013 3:48:25 PM

Yeah again no SD slot or replaceable battery. Going to wait on the Galaxy Note III. Specs are going to blow anything else out of the water.

8/7/2013 3:51:08 PM

Quote :

"still hate the idea of a fixed battery since it seems like a bad idea to (unnecessarily) lock in the single component most likely to fail"

I used to hate fixed batteries too since I enjoyed swapping them on occasion, but I just picked up a 10,000 mAh power block from Amazon that alleviates that issue for me...plus I think having a non-removable back allows device makers to improve on the design quality of the phones (a la HTC one). As far as the battery being prone to failure, for me, that's not a big issue as Verizon extends the device warranty indefinitely since I'm paying insurance. Obviously everyone's scenario is different though.

Quote :

"Yeah again no SD slot"

For me, not a big issue since I stream most of my content. Only place I would like an SD slot is on an uber long plane/car rides for using after my laptop dies...but that's not a common scenario for me.

Quote :

"Specs are going to blow anything else out of the water."

Except the all important spec of "will the damn thing fit in my pocket"

8/7/2013 4:41:57 PM

Yeah to each his own. Not everyone uses either of those features. I do a bit of traveling by plane/car and go backpacking a lot. I swap my batteries out quite a bit and store lossless music, tv shows, and movies on my SD card. I would lose a lot of functionality if I gave up either of those features.

8/7/2013 4:47:20 PM

its weird to me that people still ask for removable batteries and sd card slots.

the only "flagship" phones that i can think of with these features is the galaxy line.

8/7/2013 10:27:45 PM

Sooo, android device manager. I enabled it, myndevices don't show in the dashboard yet, but whatever....

All I know is, my fucking battery got torched. It went from about 50% to dead in an hours and thirty minutes, with no interaction... (I'd expect no more than 20% loss, based on my battery's state and my phones draw)

What the fuck.

8/8/2013 12:47:20 AM

Quote :

"its weird to me that people still ask for removable batteries and sd card slots. "

What do you mean? I know plenty of people including myself who use both features and would be strongly inhibited without them.

8/8/2013 8:44:57 AM

Quote :

"its weird to me that people still ask for removable batteries and sd card slots."

you really can't understand the advantages of having the ability to replace the single most common component to fail and of simply removing the component containing things like photos and video in case of an accident that toasts the phone?

the average person just wants their phone to be pretty and "fast"...but i want a device that can do more than make calls, browse facebook, and take drunk party pictures that no one will miss if they get lost

i'm not saying everyone who doesn't agree with me is wrong, but i think it makes a person kind of narrow-minded if they can't fathom why others would want such basic features as a user-replaceable batteries and the ability to expand storage (ESPECIALLY when the device can take high(ish)-quality photos and 1080p video...that stuff adds up fast)

8/8/2013 9:31:17 AM

im pretty sure the idea that having a removable card isn't the appropriate DR strategy for a phone, but backing the data up locally or to the cloud is. the battery i 100% agree on, but I see it as a means of getting carrier subsidies as a non-replaceable battery probably leads to more contract vehicles (upgrades)

8/8/2013 9:38:00 AM

Quote :

"im pretty sure the idea that having a removable card isn't the appropriate DR strategy for a phone, but backing the data up locally or to the cloud is."

i don't disagree with you...i have my stuff backed up to the cloud, too

but fuck if i've found a "perfect" solution that keeps everything backed up every minute of every day, especially without have boatloads of duplicated data...right now, the best i can say is that i've got my phone backed up within the week

but between the last backup and whenever something crappy happens, i LIKE knowing that i can simply remove the card and not worry about it

and that's independent of the storage issue...why pay some stupid high premium for a 32GB model when a 16GB model + 32GB microSD card costs much less for more space?

again, i realize not everyone uses all the storage they have and it's a minority that i'd consider power users (i'm betting most of you don't even qualify)...but i don't care about YOU, i care about ME

Quote :

"the battery i 100% agree on, but I see it as a means of getting carrier subsidies as a non-replaceable battery probably leads to more contract vehicles (upgrades)"

it's also probably easier/cheaper to design a phone that doesn't have a removable battery compartment...but you're right, i imagine the carriers enjoy the "haha, fuck you" money they're able to glean from insurance as a result of stupid simple shit like bad batteries

8/8/2013 10:08:29 AM

Considering almost all carriers have limits on data it's highly beneficial to be able to store music, tv shows, movies, etc on a 64GB flash card that costs <$50 compared to paying (usually) $100+ for an extra 16GB built into the phone. It's a no brainier. Not to mention I do phone rom backups on it.

Also "the cloud" is not always accessible especially for people who travel a lot (plane, no/bad signal in a car, etc) or people who go to remote locations (hiking, climbing, etc).

To me those are the two biggest features I usually look for in a phone. Why I'm sticking to the Galaxy line. I would bet 75%+ people put a case on their phone anyway and the difference between an HTC case and a Galaxy case is barely noticeable.

-plus with all these larger phones having really nice 720-1080p displays you could easily chew through your monthly allotment of data streaming one movie if you don't have wifi. It's nice to be able to stick a few 4-12 GB movies on my SD card and not have to worry about buffering, data allotment, quality, etc and just watch my movie.

^Exactly if you guys aren't power users then that's alright but that doesn't mean you can't understand why particular power users may want these features.

[Edited on August 8, 2013 at 10:14 AM. Reason : s]

8/8/2013 10:10:21 AM

Quote :

"I would bet 75%+ people put a case on their phone anyway and the difference between an HTC case and a Galaxy case is barely noticeable."

Not many Android users I know use cases. They seem to be more prevalent with the iPhones.

I'd be more down for SD cards if I could insert/remove one without having to take the back off my phone. It seems like those two features of removable batteries and SD cards go together. Do any flagship type phones allow for SD cards without having to remove the back?

Wait so to be considered a power user you must have the need for SD card storage. Ok. I am not a power user if that is the metric that must be met.

[Edited on August 8, 2013 at 10:17 AM. Reason : ]

8/8/2013 10:14:04 AM

Weird almost everyone I know uses a case with their Android phone.

How often would you really need to swap out an SD card? When the phone breaks? Taking off the back of the phone is a pretty simple process..

8/8/2013 10:15:36 AM

Quote :

"Not many Android users I know use cases."

first thing i do after purchasing a new (or new-to-me) phone is get a TPU case and screen protector...i'm brutal with my phones

Quote :

"I'd be more down for SD cards if I could insert/remove one without having to take the back off my phone. It seems like those two features of removable batteries and SD cards go together. Do any flagship type phones allow for SD cards without having to remove the back?"

not that i'm aware of...though the frequency with which i remove the SD card just for fun is low enough that it doesn't bother me to pop the back off...the USB cable or downloading directly to the card via wifi usually suffices

Quote :

"Wait so to be considered a power user you must have the need for SD card storage. Ok. I am not a power user if that is the metric that must be met."

don't be silly...no one said that

[Edited on August 8, 2013 at 10:19 AM. Reason : .]

8/8/2013 10:18:19 AM

Quote :

"Taking off the back of the phone is a pretty simple process.."

For sure, but like I mentioned above, I think not having a removable back allows the device manufacturer to do cooler shit with the design, and that's one thing I'd like out of my next Android device. All my Android phones have been pretty damn boring design wise thus far.

Quote :

"first thing i do after purchasing a new (or new-to-me) phone is get a TPU case and screen protector...i'm brutal with my phones"

Personally, I could never get down with screen protectors...degrades the usage too much for me. And for breakage that's why I've got the warranty

8/8/2013 10:19:00 AM

Quote :

"For sure, but like I mentioned above, I think not having a removable back allows the device manufacturer to do cooler shit with the design, and that's one thing I'd like out of my next Android device. All my Android phones have been pretty damn boring design wise thus far."

sure you're not a candidate for an iphone?

8/8/2013 10:20:07 AM

I made sure to use the word Android twice in that post. Perhaps I should have tried for three

[Edited on August 8, 2013 at 10:21 AM. Reason : ib someone calls me gay for wanting my phone to look/feel cool, and not just a hunk of plastic]

8/8/2013 10:20:51 AM

Quote :

"don't be silly...no one said that"

Quote :

"again, i realize not everyone uses all the storage they have and it's a minority that i'd consider power users (i'm betting most of you don't even qualify)...but i don't care about YOU, i care about ME "

Quote :

"Exactly if you guys aren't power users then that's alright but that doesn't mean you can't understand why particular power users may want these features. "

8/8/2013 10:22:52 AM

^ read that again...i simply said that i realize most users don't even use all of their storage...the SD card is irrelevant, which is why i didn't say you had to have an SD card to be a power user

Quote :

"Personally, I could never get down with screen protectors...degrades the usage too much for me. And for breakage that's why I've got the warranty"

wow, really? i've never had a problem with a screen protector making the phone's screen less responsive

how much does insurance cost? my generic screen protectors are usually less than $5 for a 3 pack (which lasts about a year as i replace them every couple of months) and the TPU case is less than $5 on its own

Quote :

"ib someone calls me gay for wanting my phone to look/feel cool, and not just a hunk of plastic"

i don't think it's gay or dumb or anything else...my personal preference is simply to avoid sacrificing function for form

again, to each their own

[Edited on August 8, 2013 at 10:25 AM. Reason : .]

8/8/2013 10:23:15 AM

Quote :

"wow, really? i've never had a problem with a screen protector making the phone's screen less responsive"

It's not about response times, it's about the experience. It's like preferring to have sex without a rubber than with one.

Quote :

"how much does insurance cost? my generic screen protectors are usually less than $5 for a 3 pack (which lasts about a year as i replace them every couple of months) and the TPU case is less than $5 on its own"

$7 a month? Worth every penny to me.

[Edited on August 8, 2013 at 10:26 AM. Reason : ]

8/8/2013 10:25:31 AM

Screen protector probably isn't going to help any type of damage that would require an insurance claim.

8/8/2013 10:27:24 AM

Quote :

"It's not about response times, it's about the experience. It's like preferring to have sex without a rubber than with one."

your analogy doesn't make any sense...what phone do you have, again? i'd like to know which screen is apparently so amazing that a screen protector makes it downright unenjoyable

Quote :

"$7 a month? Worth every penny to me."

if i paid for insurance, i'd be sure to run my phone over with a car every couple of months to make it worth it

Quote :

"Screen protector probably isn't going to help any type of damage that would require an insurance claim."

agreed...it just keeps the screen from getting scratched (as i said earlier, i'm not very gentle with my phones)

[Edited on August 8, 2013 at 10:28 AM. Reason : .]

8/8/2013 10:27:33 AM

It makes perfect sense.

putting a protective film between your phone's glass and your hand

is similar to:

putting a protective film between your dick and your lady's vagine

Quote :

"if i paid for insurance, i'd be sure to run my phone over with a car every couple of months to make it worth it"

I'm not much into fraud, but to each their own


[Edited on August 8, 2013 at 10:33 AM. Reason : V that too]

8/8/2013 10:29:22 AM

Quote :

"if i paid for insurance, i'd be sure to run my phone over with a car every couple of months to make it worth it"

ha that'd get very expensive with the deductibles if you're using the Verizon TEP.

8/8/2013 10:29:52 AM

Quote :

"It makes perfect sense. putting a protective film between your phone's glass and your hand is similar to: putting a protective film between your dick and her vagine"

no, i understand why you used that analogy, i just think that it's ridiculous

i don't know that i've ever orgasmed through my fingers before, but maybe you're just lucky?

we're talking about a PHONE here...what in the world are you doing that you're equating using your touchscreen to sex? i don't mean to insult you directly, but if you're having that much fun with your phone, you might need to have actual sex more often

8/8/2013 10:35:47 AM

ahh the old trusty "you need to have more actual sex" argument. let me consult my playbook and i'll get back to you soon.

8/8/2013 10:41:34 AM

I've never really noticed a difference, and I just use the cheapo screen protectors. There certainly are not any response issues. I'm sure if I felt two side by side they would feel slightly different, but it doesn't actually function/respond any better or worse.

[Edited on August 8, 2013 at 11:06 AM. Reason : ]

8/8/2013 10:48:14 AM

^^ uh...you're the one that compared pecking away on your phone's screen to SEX...if they're AT ALL similar to you, then i think your phone is amazing beyond imagination or your sex life is awful...how could it be anything but those two things?

look, let's just agree to disagree...the most important thing to you is to have a pretty phone and it's worth sacrificing some features to get it...others would prefer function over form

furthermore, you don't want to make your pretty phone ugly by throwing on a case and screen protector...that's fine, it's your phone...others would prefer to keep the phone safe from damage in the first place

personally, i think you're trying too hard if you feel the need to compare using your phone to sex in order to justify your reasons for your choices

[Edited on August 8, 2013 at 10:48 AM. Reason : carats]

8/8/2013 10:48:29 AM

Screen protectors are entirely worth it. I use the cheap iSmooth brand online and once you stick it on you literally can't tell there's a protector on it except for the edges. They sent me like 6 and I replace them every 3-4 months and it's much better than getting my screen all scratched up. But yeah I'm pretty rough with my phones so a case and screen protector is essential.

8/8/2013 10:55:26 AM

Quote :

"the most important thing to you is to have a pretty phone and it's worth sacrificing some features to get it...others would prefer function over form"

not sure I said that. if it's something I don't use then it's not a feature for me is it?

Quote :

"you don't want to make your pretty phone ugly by throwing on a case and screen protector."

didn't say that either.

but hey, who am i to break up your fun.

Quote :

"i think you're trying too hard if you feel the need to compare using your phone to sex in order to justify your reasons for your choices"

hahahaha ok buddy. do you also put plastic covers on your living room furniture?


[Edited on August 8, 2013 at 10:59 AM. Reason : ]

8/8/2013 10:57:29 AM

For something that I carry with me all the time and often go rock climbing, backpacking, mountain biking, and kayaking with I most certainly have a case and screen cover on it. I don't see how this is even an argument. Certain people need cases, others don't. Not everyone treats their phones the same. I don't see the point in trying to justify one or the other.

[Edited on August 8, 2013 at 11:08 AM. Reason : s]

8/8/2013 11:07:49 AM

Quote :

"not sure I said that. if it's something I don't use then it's not a feature for me is it?"

uh, well, you did (#15883140 combined with #15883146)

furthermore, i think you must not understand what a "feature" is (by definition)...regardless of whether you want/use it or not, a feature is an attribute or aspect of the thing, so a user-replaceable battery and microSD slot are indeed features

Quote :

"hahahaha ok buddy. do you also put plastic covers on your living room furniture?"

i'm not sure why you've abandoned common sense and resorted to silly comparisons

you compared using your phone to SEX...seriously...you didn't make a point, you just ensured that no one would take your opinion seriously because you think that using your phone and sex are similar

i suspect you're mostly alone in this "screen protectors ruin the experience of using my smartphone!" position, but i'd love to hear more opinions...maybe people are throwing down their protected-screen phones in disgust all the world over?

Quote :

"For something that I carry with me all the time and often go rock climbing, backpacking, mountain biking, and kayaking with I most certainly have a case and screen cover on it. I don't see how this is even an argument. Certain people need cases, others don't. Not everyone treats their phones the same. I don't see the point in trying to justify one or the other."

at this point, i think we're just arguing how alike surfing facebook on your phone is to sex...because that's the only stupid thing that's been mentioned outside the inability for the average user to understand how more non-average users might have different needs/wants

[Edited on August 8, 2013 at 11:34 AM. Reason : .]

8/8/2013 11:32:48 AM

and quag further illustrates he doesn't know what phrases like "for me" mean

8/8/2013 11:55:02 AM

by definition, a feature exists regardless of whether you see value in it or not...so you can't really choose whether it's a "feature", all you can do is determine whether the thing that exists has value for you

i realize this is semantics, but it never ceases to amaze me how some folks who supposedly have a college education fail to grasp simple concepts or understand the basics of the language they speak...at least you're finally giving up on the silly sex comparison, amusing though it was

and so here we are, back at square one...folks will buy whatever they feel best fits their needs/wants and we'll all be happy that we live in a world where we're free to make that choice

i, for one, will continue to look for additional functionality over doing "cooler shit with the design" as i care more about how it works than how it looks

8/8/2013 2:29:07 PM

functionality to some is fluff to others

8/8/2013 3:16:05 PM

no argument here

8/8/2013 3:18:22 PM

ALERT THE PRESS!

In other news, LG is denying the G2 will be the Nexus 5:
http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/497606/20130808/google-nexus-5-release-date-specs-features.htm

8/8/2013 3:43:17 PM

I got a DROID MAXX on pre-order.

8/9/2013 10:29:04 PM

Wallet's gonna win, can pick up a Gax S3 for $15* at Target tomorrow, any color I want as long as it's white.

_{*price drop $100 to 40, minus 25 trade-in on a sweet ol' Samsung Intensity with 684 hours on the clock.}

8/10/2013 10:01:21 AM

I thought the S4 was out now?

8/10/2013 5:37:30 PM

Yes and not for $15. My Dad's got one, so, guess who gets to give him the crash course in Android?

8/11/2013 8:01:08 AM

Quote :

"Anyone had any luck getting a usb/unifying/wireless mouse or keyboard working on any of the Nexus devices with an OTG cable? Just got one and I can't get anything to work on the Nexus 7. They all work fine on my Note II."

Haven't tried a mouse/keyboard yet, but my 360 Wireless Controller and Wireless Logitech RumblePad2 both work perfectly with doing nothing but plugging in with an OTG. I was pretty impressed it was that easy, others acted like you had to install some stuff to get them going.

8/11/2013 9:17:40 AM