1/17/2005 6:10:44 PM

Quote :

"Recon missions are not normal in "every country", least of all a backwater shit hole like Iran"

if u believe that, just wow.

1/17/2005 6:14:08 PM

[Edited on January 17, 2005 at 6:14 PM. Reason : shh]

1/17/2005 6:14:21 PM

Attack on Iran can't be ruled out: Bush
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/printpage/0,5942,11984058,00.html

[Edited on January 19, 2005 at 12:12 PM. Reason : `]

1/19/2005 12:11:59 PM

"As for Bush and his DoD hawks, they have been quite clear about their intentions. They announced that Iraq and Iran were part of an axis of evil, and we have already seen what happens to regimes so categorized.

The potential for trouble for the United States if the Bush administration acts aggressively toward Iran is enormous. It could turn the Iraqi Shiites and the Afghan Hazarahs decisively against Washington. An Iran in chaos similar to that in Iraq would be three or four times the problem for the US and the world that Iraq is."-Juan Cole, 1/18/05

1/19/2005 5:38:57 PM

of course it can't be ruled out

nothing can in a WAR


jesus people

1/19/2005 5:43:31 PM

Iran issues sharp warning to US over any military action
http://sg.news.yahoo.com/050119/1/3pydi.html

US attack against Iran would destabilize world: Iranian ambassador
http://www.spacewar.com/2005/050120101748.ylu1scbt.html

1/20/2005 11:47:16 AM

so? of course Iran is going to say something like that.

1/20/2005 2:52:18 PM

Quote :

"so? of course Iran is going to say something like that."

The fact that Iran is seriously talking about the possibility that the U.S. will attack Iran ought to tell you something.

1/20/2005 2:53:56 PM

That they're one of many chest pounding islamic nations? I can't imagine them not saying something in this situation, regardless of how rediculous the story was.

Do you just sit at home and hit the refresh button on the soap box every five seconds? That was one hell of a fast reply.

1/20/2005 3:02:32 PM

Quote :

"Do you just sit at home and hit the refresh button on the soap box every five seconds? That was one hell of a fast reply."

No. It was just chance.

[Edited on January 20, 2005 at 3:18 PM. Reason : `]

1/20/2005 3:17:43 PM

Iran, you're next in the war on muslim nations

1/20/2005 7:50:18 PM

fuck 'em

1/21/2005 3:40:27 AM

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull&cid=1106191077589

Quote :

"Cheney voices concern that Israel may attack Iran Vice President Dick Cheney voiced concern Thursday that Israel may decide to act first against Iran to eliminate the possibility of a nuclear threat."

[Edited on January 21, 2005 at 9:47 AM. Reason : `]

1/21/2005 9:46:21 AM

http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml%3Bjsessionid%3DUTOAX0OL1UJOUCRBAEOCFEY?type=topNews&storyID=7385562

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"Cheney Says Iran Tops List of Trouble Spots Thu Jan 20, 2005 WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Vice President Dick Cheney said on Thursday that Iran was at the top of the administration's list of world trouble spots and expressed concern that Israel "might well decide to act first" to eliminate any nuclear threat from Tehran. "You look around the world at potential trouble spots, Iran is right at the top of the list," Cheney said in an interview aired on MSNBC on the day that George W. Bush was sworn in for a second four-year term as president."

1/21/2005 12:04:47 PM

so?

1/21/2005 12:22:23 PM

Iran on brink of making the Bomb, says Mossad
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/january2005/250105iranonbrink.htm

1/25/2005 10:52:08 AM

I seriously see us going into Syria before ever incurring any public operations into Iran.

1/25/2005 11:03:40 AM

http://www.spacewar.com/2005/050124152917.yo3ytuou.html

Quote :

"International community must mobilise against Iran nuclear threat: Peres Israeli Deputy Prime Minister Shimon Peres called Monday for an international mobilisation against Iran's nuclear ambitions which he said threatened the stability of the whole Middle East. "The world must mobilise against the Iranian nuclear option," Peres said in an interview with army radio. "Iran has become the focal point of all the dangers of the Middle East... This problem should be of concern to the whole world and not just Israel.""

Iran rules out US talks as Israel warns on nuclear plan
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/050124/323/fayke.html

1/26/2005 8:43:06 AM

Germany's Schroeder rejects military strikes against Iran
http://www.spacewar.com/2005/050126162440.zfejc3yz.html

Israel refuses to rule out attack on Iran
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/story.jsp?story=604945

Quote :

"27 January 2005 Israel's Defence Minister refused to rule out a pre-empt-ive strike on Iran yesterday, claiming that Tehran was "close to a point of no return" on its suspected development of a nuclear weapon. At a meeting with journalists in London, Shaul Mofaz did little to dispel the sense of unease caused by comments last week by the US Vice-President, Dick Cheney, who suggested Israel might "decide to act first" to end Iran's nuclear threat. Mr Mofaz said: "I believe that none of the Western countries can live with Iran having a nuclear capability - not the US, not the European countries and nor other countries." But he stressed that the "first step" should be through diplomatic channels to resolve the standoff with Iran, suspected by the US and Israel of using its civilian programme as a cover for weapons development. "The way to stop Iran is by the leadership of the US, supported by European countries and taking this issue to the UN, and using the diplomatic channel with sanctions as a tool and a very deep inspection regime and full transparency." Asked what Israel would do if diplomatic channels failed, Mr Mofaz went on: "The US is a strong power that can stop any kind of nuclear programme, especially in the hands of an extreme regime." "

Ahhhhhhh, yes. The Jewish state of 'Israel' knows that it can call upon the U.S. military at any time to fight its own wars (just like in Iraq). Brings this quote to mind...

“I want to tell you something very clear: Don't worry about American pressure on Israel. We, the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it."

-Israeli Prime Minister, Ariel Sharon, October 3, 2001.


[Edited on January 27, 2005 at 12:01 PM. Reason : `]

1/27/2005 11:55:57 AM

Iran boasts 10 million martyrs ready to fight US to the death
http://www.spacewar.com/2005/050127141801.rr0o6t8l.html

Iran Says U.S. Attack Would Be 'Blunder'
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2005/1/24/95724.shtml

Iran warns of "astonishing" retaliation if attacked
http://www.aljazeera.com/cgi-bin/news_service/middle_east_full_story.asp?service_id=6868

[Edited on January 27, 2005 at 10:23 PM. Reason : `]

1/27/2005 10:22:43 PM

Target Iran: How Likely Is a U.S. First Strike?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A35105-2005Jan25.html

2/1/2005 12:57:15 PM

Quote :

"The growing impasse between Washington and Tehran, concluded Munich's Sueddeutsche Zeitung, "has a whiff of war." "

OMFG! An editorial in a German newspaper says that there is a whiff of war?!?! My God!!! I'll be in the bomb shelter!

God Bless you for letting us know salisburyboy!!!!

2/1/2005 3:10:23 PM

Quote :

"USA Today February 1, 2005 Pg. 1 Iran Open To Ties With U.S. But threats won't stop nuke program, top official says By Barbara Slavin, USA Today TEHRAN, Iran — Iran's top national security official said Monday that his government wants better relations with the United States, but he advised the Bush administration to stop threatening Iran and said his country will not yield to demands that it permanently stop its effort to enrich uranium — which the White House says is intended to make a nuclear bomb. In a rare interview, Hassan Rowhani, Iran's equivalent of national security adviser and the nation's chief negotiator on the nuclear issue, repeated Iran's assertion that its nuclear program is only for the production of energy. Iran agreed in November to suspend efforts to enrich uranium, but Rowhani said the suspension could last only for “some months, not years,” while Iran talks with Britain, Germany and France about concessions on trade and other matters. Rowhani, a senior member of the Shiite Muslim clerical establishment that has ruled Iran since a revolution overthrew the U.S.-backed Shah in 1979, said Iran “would like to have a suitable atmosphere for both sides to move to a better place” after so many years of estrangement. “If the United States is after solving the (nuclear) problem, definitely there would be a way (to improve relations), but we don't think they are looking for a right solution,” he said. “They usually use threats, and threats cannot be a basis for dialogue.” Vice President Cheney said recently that Iran's nuclear program puts it “right at the top of the list” of potential trouble spots for the United States. Condoleezza Rice, in Senate hearings before becoming secretary of State, called Iran an “outpost of tyranny.” In 2002, President Bush labeled Iran a member of an “axis of evil” and has not ruled out the use of force to overturn Iran's theocratic regime. Rowhani said that neither Iran nor the United States was interested in direct talks over the nuclear issue now but that the United States was consulting with the Europeans and was well aware of the status of negotiations. He said the best way to guarantee that Iran would not build bombs was if it could develop “a close and comprehensive relationship” with the West. “The tone of their remarks has been unsuitable,” he said. “The United States does not have the means or the power” to change the Iranian regime. "

2/1/2005 3:13:09 PM

The following website speculates on how we will be drawn into war with Iran and how it will turn out. Interesting...

http://judicial-inc.biz/Sunburn_Missile.htm

Bolton: US 'very concerned' Israel might attack Iran
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/february2005/010205veryconcerned.htm

Quote :

"Associated Press | February 1 2005 An American envoy repeated US allegations Monday about an Iranian nuclear weapons program and said Israel might attack Iran's nuclear sites because the Jewish state has "a history" of such actions. John Bolton, the State Department's top international security official, was referring to Israel's 1981 bombing raid on Iraq's Osirak nuclear reactor. "The vice president said we're very concerned that this might happen," Bolton said, referring to a recent statement by US Vice President Dick Cheney. "Israel destroyed the Osirak reactor in Iraq. They have a history of this," Bolton said. Earlier this month, Cheney said it was possible Israel might attack Iran if it became convinced Tehran posed a nuclear threat. "

[Edited on February 1, 2005 at 10:54 PM. Reason : `]

2/1/2005 10:31:54 PM

http://www.iranexpert.com/2004/israel7august.htm

IranExpert: Why Israel probably won't attack Iran

2/1/2005 11:43:33 PM

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20050202/D880K5VG1.html

Quote :

"Iran Says It Will Never Scrap Nuke Program TEHRAN, Iran (AP) - Iran will never scrap its nuclear program, and talks with Europeans are intended to protect the country's nuclear achievements, not negotiate an end to them, an Iranian official said Wednesday. The remarks by Ali Agha Mohammadi, spokesman of Iran's powerful Supreme National Security Council, are the latest in a hardening of his country's stance amid ongoing talks with European negotiators. They also reflect Tehran's possible frustration at the lack of progress."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,1404776,00.html

Quote :

"Bush warns Syria and Iran over terror President George Bush last night issued clear warnings to Syria and Iran that they were next in his sights in his declared mission to spread democracy around the world. The state of the union address to Congress had been billed as reconciliatory, but, along with a series of references to alliances and international initiatives, there were some blunt words. After recounting the fall of the Taliban in Afghanistan and Saddam Hussein in Iraq, the president said: "There are still governments that sponsor and harbour terrorists, but their numbers have declined. "There are still regimes seeking weapons of mass destruction, but they are no longer without attention and without consequence." The president then singled out Syria, which he said "still allows its territory and parts of Lebanon to be used by terrorists who seek to destroy every chance of peace in the region." "We expect Syria to end all support for terrorists and open the door to freedom," he said, to heavy applause from members of Congress. He turned to Iran, which he said "remains the world's primary sponsor of terror" and he issued a direct message to Iranians to stand up to the clerical regime in Tehran. He said the US was working with European states to make clear to Tehran it must give up its uranium enrichment programme, but he also signalled a much broader agenda, aimed at the ultimate removal of the clerical regime itself."

[Edited on February 3, 2005 at 12:39 AM. Reason : `]

2/3/2005 12:34:34 AM

http://interestalert.com/brand/siteia.shtml?Story=st/sn/02020000aaa01502.upi&Sys=siteia&Fid=FRONTPAG&Type=News&Filter=Front%20Page

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"Bush: Iran main sponsor of terror WASHINGTON, Feb. 2 (UPI) -- U.S. President George Bush Wednesday characterized Iran as "the world's primary state sponsor of terror. In his State of the Union address before a joint session of Congress, Bush called on the Iranian people to reject tyranny. "Today, Iran remains the world's primary state sponsor of terror -- pursuing nuclear weapons while depriving its people of the freedom they seek and deserve," Bush said. "We are working with European allies to make clear to the Iranian regime that it must give up its uranium enrichment program and any plutonium re-processing, and end its support for terror."

2/3/2005 10:24:27 PM

Rice: Attack on Iran 'not on agenda'

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe/02/04/uk.rice/index.html

2/4/2005 11:16:13 AM

Quote :

"Iran, you're next in the war on muslim nations"

next post:

Quote :

"fuck 'em - Mr. Joshua"

Aw, what do we have here? Mr. "I love diversity, I love illegal immigration" hates the Iranians. Are you saying we should just nuke Iran and kill all Iranians?


[Edited on February 4, 2005 at 11:31 AM. Reason : `]

2/4/2005 11:29:18 AM

Actually I was kidding on that post, brainiac.

Are you stalking me? You're really reaching trying to discredit me aren't you?

2/4/2005 11:32:53 AM

Quote :

"Actually I was kidding on that post, brainiac. "

{noting winky}....Sure you were.



[Edited on February 4, 2005 at 11:39 AM. Reason : `]

2/4/2005 11:37:41 AM

Moron.

2/4/2005 11:39:49 AM

U.S.-Israel plan to strike Iran's nuclear sites finalized
http://www.aljazeera.com/me.asp?service_ID=6945

Quote :

"2/6/2005 Experts from the U.S. Defense Department, the Pentagon and Israel have put final touches to a plan to launch a military strike targeting Iran’s nuclear facilities, experts at the European Commission based in Brussels, revealed on Sunday. The experts added that the implementation of this plan rested on a number of factors including the U.S. continuous efforts to hamper the EU-Iranian negotiations to persuade Iran to suspend all activities related to uranium enrichment, with the aim of justifying a military strike against the Islamic republic if it refused to bow to U.S. pressures."

[Edited on February 6, 2005 at 10:01 PM. Reason : `]

2/6/2005 10:01:05 PM

Iran 'to retaliate if US attacks'
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/4241527.stm

Quote :

"Iran's top nuclear negotiator says Iran will retaliate and accelerate its efforts to develop nuclear technology if attacked by the US or Israel. Hassan Rohani told Reuters news agency there was nothing the West could do that would persuade Tehran to scrap its nuclear programme. Both the US and Israel have said it would be unacceptable for Iran to have nuclear weapons. Iran says its nuclear programme will be used to generate electricity."

2/7/2005 9:58:50 AM

Bush Defuses Iran Strike Fears
http://www.buzzle.com/editorials/2-2-2005-65246.asp

2/7/2005 9:59:16 AM

Quote :

"That they're one of many chest pounding islamic nations"

we'll, we're one of the only chest pounding Christian nations, so it works out in the end

no wait
it doesn't work out at all

2/7/2005 10:16:17 AM

oh it'll work out

when tehran is a smoking hole

2/7/2005 10:54:44 AM

Well, being part of the Navy ROTC, I know where I'll be going when I graduate.

2/7/2005 5:25:56 PM

U.S. Training Iranian Spies
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/2/6/230439.shtml

Quote :

"Sunday, Feb. 6, 2005 11:01 p.m. EST Members of an Iranian group known for its support of the U.S. Embassy takeover in 1979 may now be sought by the Bush administration as operatives for use against Tehran, Newsweek reports in the current issue."

Source: Russia, Iran May Sign Nuke Deal This Month
http://www.reuters.com/printerFriendlyPopup.jhtml?type=worldNews&storyID=7557363

Quote :

"Mon Feb 7, 2005 10:08 AM ET MOSCOW (Reuters) - Russia is preparing to sign a deal with Iran this month to start atomic fuel shipments for a Moscow-built nuclear reactor there, a Russian nuclear source said on Monday. The move is certain to enrage the United States which says Iran can use Russian fuel to secretly make a nuclear bomb. Washington has long called on Russia to drop the plans."

Iran tells US nuclear sites cannot be destroyed
http://www.spacewar.com/2005/050208114528.w6q28mdr.html

Quote :

"TEHRAN (AFP) Feb 08, 2005 Iran warned the United States Tuesday that its nuclear sites cannot be destroyed by air or missile strikes, as Britain entered the fray by declaring that Tehran is a state sponsor of terrorism. Top national security official Hassan Rowhani said on state television that a military strike would only push Iran's nuclear activities underground, and told Washington that the stand-off should be settled by dialogue."

[Edited on February 8, 2005 at 12:40 PM. Reason : `]

2/8/2005 12:36:38 PM

Quote :

""Our nuclear centres cannot be destroyed. Our nuclear technology comes from our scientists (and) we can transfer our nuclear workshops under mountains and carry out enrichment where no bomb or missile can be effective," said the cleric, adding he did not consider an attack as a "serious threat.""

Why did you leave that out?

2/8/2005 12:40:26 PM

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe/02/09/rice/index.html

Quote :

"Rice: Iran must halt nuclear program Secretary of state says Iran could be referred to Security Council Wednesday, February 9, 2005 BRUSSELS, Belgium (CNN) -- U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said on Wednesday that Iran must live up to its international obligations to halt its nuclear program or "the next steps are in the offing." "And I think everybody understands what the 'next steps' mean," Rice told reporters after a meeting with NATO foreign ministers and European Union officials. "It's obvious that if Iran cannot be brought to live up to its international obligations that, in fact, the IAEA (International Atomic Energy Agency) statutes would suggest that Iran has to be referred to the U.N. Security Council," she said."

Eerily similar to what happened prior to the war with Iraq.

2/9/2005 12:53:48 PM

^Not really.

2/9/2005 12:56:31 PM

shit's about to hit the fan

Quote :

"Iran 'will stick to nuclear plan' Iranian President Mohammad Khatami has said Tehran will never give up nuclear technology, as international pressure on his government continues to mount. He warned of "massive" consequences if Iran was treated unfairly. Mr Khatami said again that the nuclear programme was peaceful and needed to produce power, rejecting US suspicions that it is a cover for weapons. EU powers want Tehran to end uranium enrichment - a key part of nuclear arms production - permanently. "We give our guarantee that we will not produce nuclear weapons because we're against them and do not believe they are a source of power," Mr Khatami told foreign ambassadors in Tehran. "But we will not give up peaceful nuclear technology," he added."

2/9/2005 6:35:58 PM

ha so maybe we shoulda went to town on Iran instead.

2/9/2005 6:39:01 PM

Bush urges world to denounce Iranian nuclear program
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2005-02/10/content_2566706.htm

Bush: World Must Speak with One Voice on Iran Nukes
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20050209/pl_nm/nuclear_iran_bush_dc_1

[Edited on February 10, 2005 at 12:36 PM. Reason : 1]

2/10/2005 12:34:55 PM

^Thats brilliant. Bush doesn't want Iran to have nuclear weapons (not many people do). Thank you for bringing this to our attention salisburyboy.

This is not a sign of war.

2/10/2005 12:51:59 PM

Iran Vows 'Burning Hell' for Any Aggressor

Quote :

"TEHRAN (Reuters) - Iran, facing mounting U.S. pressure over its nuclear program, promised Thursday a "burning hell" for any aggressor as tens of thousands marched to mark the 26th anniversary of its Islamic revolution. "The Iranian nation does not seek war, does not seek violence and dispute. But the world must know that this nation will not tolerate any invasion," President Mohammad Khatami said in a fiery speech to the crowd in central Tehran. "The whole Iranian nation is united against any threat or attack. If the invaders reach Iran, the country will turn into a burning hell for them," he added, as the crowd, braving heavy snow, chanted "Death to America!" and "Death to Israel!." Senior officials had called for a big turnout at the revolution anniversary parades to send a message to Washington which has toughened its stance on Iran in recent weeks. President Bush said Wednesday a nuclear-armed Iran would be "a very destabilizing force" and urged the West to work together to stop this happening. "The Iranians just need to know that the free world is working together to send a very clear message: Don't develop a nuclear weapon," Bush said. Unlike North Korea, which Thursday openly declared it has made nuclear arms, Iran denies U.S. accusations it is building bombs under cover of a civilian nuclear energy program. But Iran, too, has hardened its language in recent days, refusing to contemplate scrapping sensitive activities like uranium enrichment -- which can be used to make bomb-grade material -- and vowing to accelerate work on its program if the United States or Israel attacked its atomic plants. "

http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml;jsessionid=LAI4CFUFLDDFOCRBAEKSFFA?type=topNews&storyID=7597441

2/10/2005 1:59:46 PM

Capitol Hill Mulls 'Regime Change' in Iran
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,146342,00.html

Quote :

"WASHINGTON — Though the Bush administration denies it has any designs on changing Iran's theocracy, members of Congress are planning ways to assist in a possible "regime change." Movements are afoot in both the House and Senate to pass legislation that would enable the U.S. government to support foreign and domestic pro-democracy groups opposed to the current Islamic republic of Iran."

2/12/2005 2:19:52 PM

Iran Warns U.S. Not to Play with Nuclear 'Fire'

Quote :

"TEHRAN (Reuters) - Iran warned the United States on Sunday not to attack its nuclear facilities and said talks with Europe might produce a deal to defuse the dispute over its alleged covert ambitions to build atomic weapons. "They know our capabilities. We have clearly told the Europeans to tell the Americans not to play with fire," Iranian spokesman Hamid Reza Asefi told a news briefing in Tehran, referring to Washington's refusal to rule out the use of force. Germany, however, warned that Iran could be referred to the U.N. Security Council for its nuclear activities -- a toughening of the European line that narrows a rift between Europe and Washington which Iran has tried for months to exploit. An American newspaper, meanwhile, reported that U.S. military bases had been flying pilotless drone aircraft into Iran to hunt for tell-tale traces of nuclear weapons programs. Asefi said Iran was determined to continue its nuclear program which it says is solely for peaceful power generation. But Washington accuses Tehran of secretly pursuing atomic weapons under cover of the civil program and says it does not rule out any option to stop it acquiring them. France, Britain and Germany have been trying to persuade Iran to scrap potentially weapons-related activities in return for economic incentives. Iran has said repeatedly it will not give up plans to build a heavy-water reactor, which can be used to make weapons-grade material, in exchange for a light-water reactor offered by the Europeans, which is less useful for a weapons program. "We will not under any circumstances replace our heavy-water research reactor," Asefi said on Sunday. "We will continue building our heavy-water reactor." But Asefi said there was a chance of a deal with the Europeans, describing the latest round of Iran-EU talks, which took place in Geneva on Friday, as "deeper and more professional." "

http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml;jsessionid=KGK1TQUPA2WPKCRBAE0CFFA?type=topNews&storyID=7612084

2/13/2005 12:27:03 PM