7/5/2005 6:19:49 PM

I made the most of it when gas was $0.80 / gallon a few years back.

^dude, Hitler can ride shotgun with me any day. I bet he'd always be chunkin the duece at his boys and shoutin at hos, a real cool-ass motherfucker.

[Edited on July 5, 2005 at 6:57 PM. Reason : .]

7/5/2005 6:56:06 PM

Quote :

"I made the most of it when gas was $0.80 / gallon a few years back."

not in NC

7/5/2005 8:35:11 PM

no doubt the conversion would be an expensive one, but BMW (as well as others) already have safe hydrogen powered engines and filling stations local to a small portion of the UK and Germany.

i'm starting to feel like a grampa with this fossil fuel shit.

7/6/2005 12:55:22 AM

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"- In Brazil sugar cane is processed to be used as fuel in cars. Vehicles there are manufactured to accept this fuel as well as gasoline. While this requires engines that are somewhat different, it wouldn't be a huge step for us to make."

Cane-based ethanol is selling for cheaper than gasoline in Brazil, and it burns much cleaner.


However, it would actually be a huge step for us to make. For one thing, we do not have the environment to produce those kinds of amounts of sugar cane. Farmers in the US are using corn to make ethanol, but not in the kind of capacity required for a market-driven shift in infrastructure. As it is, the house and senate have both submitted energy bills that require increases in ethanol in our fuel supply, but it will never reach the levels seen in Brazil, where you can buy 100% ethanol at almost any pump. Brazil's conversion to an ethanol system was some 30 years in the making, and required extensive government intervention of the type that can only occur in a socialism.

[Edited on July 6, 2005 at 3:10 AM. Reason : !]

7/6/2005 3:07:32 AM

^^^i remember paying 87 cents a gallon when i was in HS about 5 or 6 years ago

[Edited on July 6, 2005 at 12:19 PM. Reason : ]

7/6/2005 12:19:37 PM

^ Summer of '98.

Ah twas glorious.

7/6/2005 12:20:16 PM

THE GOOD OLD DAYS OF HOPE AND SUNSHINE ARE OVER

DOOOOOOOOOOM DOOOOOOOOOOOOOM DOOOOOOOOOOOM

p.s. boogie boogie

7/6/2005 12:21:33 PM

Senior year of HS: $10 fillup
Senior year of college: $35 fillup

We need to break up OPEC.

7/6/2005 12:59:25 PM

Shit people, we're already occupying Iraq. Let's just take over their oil fields.

7/6/2005 1:00:25 PM

^^$35? Obviously you've bought a new car.

2001 when I first got my car: $13 fill-up
today: $22

7/6/2005 3:29:15 PM

$61/barrel.

Rabble rabble!

7/6/2005 4:17:58 PM

what's stopping tractor trailers from running on biodiesel, aside from the small modifications? aren't there enough mcdonalds to fuel all the wal-mart trucks?

7/6/2005 4:39:23 PM

Texas hates our freedoms

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8471301/


lets bomb them to hell and take their oil

7/6/2005 4:41:45 PM

Quote :

"Senior year of HS: $10 fillup Senior year of college: $35 fillup We need to break up OPEC."

unless you changed cars this is not possible - possibly closer to $25 for the latter or $15 for the former

7/6/2005 4:50:19 PM

what are you talking about?
my camry regularly takes $30 to fill up
and if i had had it when gas was sub-$0.80, it would have taken ~$10

i remember buying PREMIUM gas for less than a dollar...

7/6/2005 4:54:32 PM

you quite possibly remember sub $0.80/gallon gas - but you don't remember that large of a change within a 4-6yr period

7/6/2005 4:58:51 PM

Quote :

" It's all in how you look at it! Compared with Gasoline Think a gallon of gas is expensive? This makes one think, and also puts things in perspective Diet Snapple 16 oz $1.29 . . . .$10.32 per gallon Lipton Ice Tea 16 oz $1.19 ...........$9.52 per gallon Gatorade 20 oz $1.59 ..... $10.17 per gallon Ocean Spray 16 oz $1.25 . $10.00 per gallon Brake Fluid ; 12 oz $3.15 . . . $33.60 per gallon Vick's Nyquil 6 oz $8.35 . . . $178.13 per gallon Pepto Bismol 4 oz $3.85. . . $123.20 per gallon Whiteout 7 oz $1.39 . . $25.42 per gallon Scope 1.5 oz $0.99 . . . $84.48 per gallon And this is the REAL KICKER... Evian water 9 oz $1.49..........$21.19 per gallon?! ($21.19 for WATER - and the buyers don't even know the source. Evian spelled backwards is Naive.) So, the next time you're at the pump, be glad your car doesn't run on water, Scope, Whiteout, Pepto Bismal or Nyquil! "

7/6/2005 7:21:25 PM

Well, I guess it's a good thing that the country's economy isn't dependent on NyQuil

And by the way, where the fuck does a 9 oz bottle of Evian cost $1.49?

7/6/2005 7:27:08 PM

There was a car change in between, but I was making a point.

And btw, I noticed something fundamentally stupid about the list above. I noticed it when I asked myself how often I buy gallons of Scope.

[Edited on July 6, 2005 at 7:29 PM. Reason : ...]

7/6/2005 7:28:27 PM

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"And btw, I noticed something fundamentally stupid about the list above. I noticed it when I asked myself how often I buy gallons of Scope. "

I don't know....are you a motor mouth?


bwahahhahahahahahahaa....I crack myself up.

7/6/2005 10:56:24 PM

we'll crank up the oil rigs in Texas and use our own oil before that happens.

7/7/2005 10:27:43 AM

Quote :

"There was a car change in between, but I was making a point."

was your point that newer cars generally have larger gas tanks

7/7/2005 10:59:32 AM

By the way, I obviously don't actually want gas to hit four or five dollars per gallon in the US. However, if it somehow gets to those prices without the demand in the market not adjusting for it, there is something seriously wrong with America.

7/7/2005 11:31:14 AM

Personally, I think that it would be pretty cool to live in a futuristic wasteland where we would kill others for gasoline, just like The Road Warrior.

7/7/2005 11:36:42 AM

and why is 100 buck by winter such a big deal? in europe they pay more $4+ for a gallon for number of years. instead of eating out 2x a month, you will put money in gas.

7/8/2005 12:44:09 AM

Drive 174 miles a day between work and class and then see if $4.00/gallon is agreeable.

7/8/2005 6:26:24 AM

IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE WAY WE DO THINGS ROUND HERE, YOU CAN GET THE HELL OUT

7/8/2005 9:26:29 AM

John Snow pointed out that we probably don't have to worry about much higher oil prices because the rest of the world's industrial base is acting like a safety valve. When prices go up, worldwide industrial production falls, reducing demand. If you look at the numbers, Worldwide industrial production has fallen substantially over the past year or so in direct response to higher energy prices. The exceptions, of course, are America where industrial production has grown slowely and China where they are simply paying the higher prices.

7/8/2005 11:20:21 AM

makes sense. steel prices have definitely declined some.

7/8/2005 11:36:52 AM

GOOD MAYBE THEN WE'LL CUT OUR USE OF GAS AND EVERYTHING AND CREATE A HUGE PARADIGM SHIFT THAT WILL LEAD TO A BETTER WORLD

AND FUCKING RIDE A BIKE

7/8/2005 1:33:37 PM

LOUD NOISES

7/8/2005 2:05:00 PM

What many people seem to be ignoring is the ability of the market to automatically allocate resources most efficiently. In other words, only rich people can afford the new higher prices.

As a matter of comparison, third world countries spend a larger percentage of their GDPs purchasing energy, which might seem strange seeing as they largely do not own cars or have electricity. But while they may consume, let us imagine, 1/10th the oil of industrialized citizens, they have 1/20th the income of industrialized citizens.

We Americans can afford the higher prices, Africans cannot. So Africans cease consuming and the level of inequality grows even wider

So give up thinking high oil prices are a good thing because it might make Americans start riding bikes and riding the train. Realize that all it is going to do is bankrupt the poor and further increase the hardship associated with poverty.

[Edited on July 8, 2005 at 3:28 PM. Reason : V = I x R]

7/8/2005 3:26:26 PM

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"So, the next time you're at the pump, be glad your car doesn't run on water"

Cause if my car ran on water I would for sure buy little 9 oz bottles at $1.49 a piece to fill it up.

8/16/2005 10:37:28 PM

i'd fill it up with bathtub regular

[Edited on August 16, 2005 at 10:48 PM. Reason : +]

8/16/2005 10:47:50 PM

Quote :

""- In Brazil sugar cane is processed to be used as fuel in cars. Vehicles there are manufactured to accept this fuel as well as gasoline. While this requires engines that are somewhat different, it wouldn't be a huge step for us to make.""

Alcohol is also less efficient than gas. Most Brazilians will fill up with gasoline because in the end it costs pretty much the same.

They've been using this system for over 30 years now, and we are finally trying to do the same with soy beans. So we are trying to move forward.

8/16/2005 10:54:29 PM

my car runs on scope

SCOPE NIGGAS

IMA BALLA

8/16/2005 11:02:36 PM

Quote :

"By the way, I obviously don't actually want gas to hit four or five dollars per gallon in the US. However, if it somehow gets to those prices without the demand in the market not adjusting for it, there is something seriously wrong with America."

the problem with america is easy to get credit with high interest rates and people not watching their finances. gas is $5/gallon? oh, i'll just put it on my credit card.

if the use continues despite higher prices, i bet a lot of people will go into large debt real fast. their lives will suck when they go bankrupt, or their kid's lives will suck when they inherit their parent's debt on top of the debt they have created because of what they learned from their parents.

8/16/2005 11:18:42 PM

Let me get this straight, are you telling me Americans are not smart enough to cover an extra $100 a month of expenses?

Just ask WalMart if they think Americans are that stupid.

Quote :

"While Wal-Mart Stores blamed higher gas prices for cutting into its sales in the second quarter, CEO Lee Scott said Tuesday he's concerned that the worst may be yet to come."

http://money.cnn.com/2005/08/16/news/fortune500/walmart/index.htm

As such, the higher the price of gas, the less we seem to spend at Wal-Mart. Therefore, your statement is disproved, we are not being blindsided by anything. Human beings get a sense for how much money they have available to spend and act accordingly.

[Edited on August 17, 2005 at 12:14 AM. Reason : link]

8/17/2005 12:07:46 AM

would less money spent at wal-mart = less money spent to china?

8/17/2005 12:39:39 AM

Quote :

"the problem with america is easy to get credit with high interest rates and people not watching their finances. gas is $5/gallon? oh, i'll just put it on my credit card. if the use continues despite higher prices, i bet a lot of people will go into large debt real fast. their lives will suck when they go bankrupt, or their kid's lives will suck when they inherit their parent's debt on top of the debt they have created because of what they learned from their parents."

Then, because the republicans will next pass a bill that outlaws bankruptcy filings, you'll be put into prison for being broke and have to work off your debt.

8/17/2005 7:47:21 AM

WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU?

YOU SHOULD HAVE TO WORK OFF YOUR DEBT.

NOT THROUGH PRISON, BUT WAGE GARNISHMENTS.

8/17/2005 8:18:50 AM

You don't understand the 19th century.

8/17/2005 8:23:43 AM

why arent we at war with china yet?

8/17/2005 8:33:53 AM

Quote :

" As such, the higher the price of gas, the less we seem to spend at Wal-Mart. "

I think its too premature to make that call, based on this quarter's earnings.

Remember, there was not a DECREASE in sales, just a DECREASE in growth. The quarter still yielded record sales, just less than what was projected.

Not even wal-mart can maintain a high rate of increase in sales growth forever. Couple that with Target's continuous gains in market share, consumers' negative perception of Wal-mart as a company, AND rising gas prices, and you have a bigger picture of how growth is decelerating due to multiple factors. Of course, correlating it solely with fuel costs makes for a hotter news topic.

Rising fuel costs will have a bigger impact on the back end than the front end.

8/17/2005 8:50:56 AM

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"Then, because the republicans will next pass a bill that outlaws bankruptcy filings, you'll be put into prison for being broke and have to work off your debt."

If you knew the way some people used bankruptcy and passed the debt along to the rest of society then you might see things differently. Its far too easy an escape. People need to be more personally responsible for how they handle their lives.

8/17/2005 8:53:03 AM

Quote :

"why arent we at war with china yet?"

because they make all our shit

8/17/2005 8:55:27 AM

i mean, we give them all our money

AND

they drive up our prices.


double-pwnt

8/17/2005 9:15:47 AM

^ they have us bent over an [oil] barrel ...

8/17/2005 9:20:04 AM

That's why we should have spent billions to find alternative energy after 9-11. $300 billion and 4 years of research might have yielded better results than invading Iraq.

8/17/2005 9:36:08 AM