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9/10/2005 7:27:43 PM

I can just picture the lot of you sitting around like Beavis and Butthead...uh huh huh uh huh huh, he like said, fuck, uh huh huh huh huh uh huh. I don't want to hear a word from any of you when it happens to a liberal politician.

9/11/2005 7:53:36 PM

say what you will about Cheney, that guy always knows what to say

9/11/2005 8:06:48 PM

^thats true...reminds of the debate where he made John Edwards look like a schoolgirl. man that was great.

9/11/2005 8:13:58 PM

I believe Kerry was caught on camera calling one of the Secret Service guys a shithead, I don't care, I just think it's funny.

9/11/2005 8:14:21 PM

Well shit I chuckled and I voted for them. Hell I laughed more with Cheney's response.

Shit happens, get over yourself. People get called out on both sides and I don't support the guy that said this and I don't support anybody that said that shit to any other politician.

That being said, I can still appreciate the humor in the situation both in the comment and Cheney's reply. Some people just need to lighten the fuck up.

9/11/2005 8:19:13 PM

It's stupid that some people are looking at this as a partisan issue.

It's a freaking funny incident, that is meaningless, except a politician got what's coming to them.

9/11/2005 9:14:18 PM

You guys can go call kerry a shithead and I won't cry about it

9/11/2005 9:19:42 PM

i would actually laugh if someone yelled "go fuck yourself, mr. kerry!"

of course, it wouldn't be AS funny, since kerry isn't recorded as saying that to someon on the house floor

nonetheless...

9/11/2005 11:36:20 PM

^i would too

9/11/2005 11:47:45 PM

Quote :

"October 24, 2005 Cheney Told Aide of C.I.A. Officer, Notes Show By DAVID JOHNSTON, RICHARD W. STEVENSON and DOUGLAS JEHL WASHINGTON, Oct. 24 - I. Lewis Libby Jr., Vice President Dick Cheney's chief of staff, first learned about the C.I.A. officer at the heart of the leak investigation in a conversation with Mr. Cheney weeks before her identity became public in 2003, lawyers involved in the case said Monday. Notes of the previously undisclosed conversation between Mr. Libby and Mr. Cheney on June 12, 2003, appear to differ from Mr. Libby's testimony to a federal grand jury that he initially learned about the C.I.A. officer, Valerie Wilson, from journalists, the lawyers said. The notes, taken by Mr. Libby during the conversation, for the first time place Mr. Cheney in the middle of an effort by the White House to learn about Ms. Wilson's husband, Joseph C. Wilson IV, who was questioning the administration's handling of intelligence about Iraq's nuclear program to justify the war. Lawyers involved in the case, who described the notes to The New York Times, said they showed that Mr. Cheney knew that Ms. Wilson worked at the C.I.A. more than a month before her identity was made public and her undercover status was disclosed in a syndicated column by Robert D. Novak on July 14, 2003."

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/10/24/politics/24cnd-leak.html?ei=5088&en=22bd56d96527f48a&ex=1287806400&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss&pagewanted=print

10/25/2005 5:27:47 AM

Maybe he'll go jail and have someone fuck him instead of him fucking himself.

10/25/2005 8:41:49 AM

hed pwn the place

10/25/2005 8:53:05 AM

do you get a secret service detail in prison?

10/25/2005 9:00:42 AM

you get your own cell and play area

10/25/2005 9:08:50 AM

NYT:
http://nytimes.com/2005/10/25/politics/25leak.html?hp&ex=1130212800&en=ba1361e3bd1bec47&ei=5094&partner=homepage

Quote :

""Mr. Libby's notes indicate that Mr. Cheney had gotten his information about Ms. Wilson from George J. Tenet, the director of central intelligence, in response to questions from the vice president about Mr. Wilson. But they contain no suggestion that either Mr. Cheney or Mr. Libby knew at the time of Ms. Wilson's undercover status or that her identity was classified. Disclosing a covert agent's identity can be a crime, but only if the person who discloses it knows the agent's undercover status."

Oopsy:
http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2005_10_23_digbysblog_archive.html#113020677547157832

Quote :

" "VICE PRES. CHENEY: No. I don’t know Joe Wilson. I’ve never met Joe Wilson. A question had arisen. I’d heard a report that the Iraqis had been trying to acquire uranium in Africa, Niger in particular. I get a daily brief on my own each day before I meet with the president to go through the intel. And I ask lots of question. One of the questions I asked at that particular time about this, I said, “What do we know about this?” They take the question. He came back within a day or two and said, “This is all we know. There’s a lot we don’t know,” end of statement. And Joe Wilson—I don’t who sent Joe Wilson. He never submitted a report that I ever saw when he came back. I guess the intriguing thing, Tim, on the whole thing, this question of whether or not the Iraqis were trying to acquire uranium in Africa. In the British report, this week, the Committee of the British Parliament, which just spent 90 days investigating all of this, revalidated their British claim that Saddam was, in fact, trying to acquire uranium in Africa. What was in the State of the Union speech and what was in the original British White papers. So there may be difference of opinion there. I don’t know what the truth is on the ground with respect to that, but I guess—like I say, I don’t know Mr. Wilson. I probably shouldn’t judge him. I have no idea who hired him and it never came... MR. RUSSERT: The CIA did. VICE PRES. CHENEY: Who in the CIA, I don’t know."

10/25/2005 9:39:35 AM

Quote :

"Powell's ex-aide rips leaders Attacks White House for confining power to small 'cabal' with presidential OK, saying it led to bad decision on war BY TIMOTHY M. PHELPS WASHINGTON BUREAU CHIEF October 20, 2005 WASHINGTON -- U.S. foreign policy is being made in secret by a small "cabal" of powerful people like Vice President Dick Cheney and Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, a former top Bush administration official charged yesterday. Lawrence Wilkerson, a retired U.S. Army colonel who was chief of staff for Secretary of State Colin Powell until they left office in January, unleashed possibly the broadest attack on the Bush administration from one of its own since former Counter Terrorism Chief Richard Clarke last year. Wilkerson said "we have courted disaster in Iraq, North Korea and Iran" and said that if there is another attack in the U.S. such as a nuclear explosion in a U.S. city "you are going to see the ineptitude of this government." He accused President George W. Bush of "cowboyism" in dealing with foreign leaders and said that Cheney and Rumsfeld and others could not be kept under control by a president "not versed in international relations and not too interested in them either." The White House did not immediately return a call seeking comment. Speaking at the New America Foundation, a nonpartisan think tank, Wilkerson said his central complaint was that too much power was centered in too few people who kept the rest of the bureaucracy in the dark. There was a "cabal between Vice President Cheney and Secretary of Defense Rumsfeld on critical decisions that the bureaucracy did not know was being made." Asked what role Bush played with the "cabal," Wilkerson said the president "was very integral to the process. When the president's [intervention] was needed the president's office was entered by one person and the president's consent was obtained," Wilkerson said. Then-national security adviser Condoleezza Rice, who succeeded Powell, failed to intervene to stop the "cabal" because she made a calculated decision "to build her intimacy with the president," rather than confront his other advisers, Wilkerson charged. He indicated that this flawed, secretive process contributed to what he thought was a bad decision to go to war in Iraq. But Wilkerson said that any decision by the Bush administration to leave Iraq "precipitously" would result in Iraq's neighbors sending in troops and creation of a breeding ground for terrorists like Afghanistan, leading to another major war involving the United States. "We will have to go back and take the Middle East within a decade," if that happens, he said. The Bush administration never planned for what would happen in Iraq after the war, he said. "There was simply no plan with regard to postwar Iraq," other than some contingencies for humanitarian assistance, he said. Wilkerson said that Powell, for whom he worked for 16 years at the Pentagon as well as at State, did not agree with his decision to go public with his criticisms, and it had led to a breach between them."

http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/nation/ny-uswilk204476689oct20,0,7902538,print.story

10/25/2005 1:29:54 PM