basically its exactly what i wanted

i shouldent need to change anything for a long time after its all put together
(unless something burns out or breaks)

9/26/2005 6:17:04 PM

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"i shouldent need to change anything for a long time "

don't you fuckin wish.

9/26/2005 7:51:54 PM

Got to agree with Incognegro on this, the raptor is worth the LITTLE bit of extra money. You have basically maxxed out everything else. Why not drop 60 bucks on a 15-20% increase in disk access?

Seriously, you say it wasn't worth the money, then why the hell did you spring for a 7800 over a 6800, or a x2 over a high end a64.

As for the "pretty lights", just keep in mind the extra 5-7 dollars a MONTH those lights and fans are going to cost you in electricity. You are paying an extra 50-80 bucks per YEAR for something no one else will see or appreciate.

Not to mention taxing the power supply that bit more.

9/26/2005 7:57:53 PM

Hey Noen, what happened to that one car you dumped a fair amount of money into and didn't finish as a project?

9/26/2005 8:40:57 PM

Pentium D baby, pentium D

9/26/2005 9:06:00 PM

yea well thats how it went down yo

i didnt really have any clue what kind of HD i wanted
i basically let the other guys pick one out for me because basically i dont know shit about hardware
i went onto anandtech.com and read as much as i could about hardware but i never could find stuff about harddrives or their importance so ill just live with it
i asked friends to help me order stuff because i didnt know what to get and what not to get
so oh well

not to say i didnt know anything
i knew all about ram and the processor and vid cards
just nothing about mobos and hds and cases basically

[Edited on September 26, 2005 at 10:34 PM. Reason : ]

9/26/2005 10:23:36 PM

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[Edited on September 26, 2005 at 10:32 PM. Reason : .]

9/26/2005 10:31:19 PM

^^I'd have built it for you dawg, you know all you have to do is holler

Quote :

"Hey Noen, what happened to that one car you dumped a fair amount of money into and didn't finish as a project?"

It's now sitting in a 30x30 garage bay being prepped to mount the rear subframe and I'm measuring the engine bay to tube it in. And the only money I've dumped was keeping it in storage for the last 10 months. Other than that I have basically broken even.

9/26/2005 11:34:16 PM

yea
i dont remember when you got back from cali?
have a fun trip back?
yea i shoulda gotten you to help but its already built for the most part
thats life for ya
if you need any more help with that car yo
if i got time i am ready to help and shit

that car needs to be done haha
im tired of looking at it all torn apart
its like sitting there looking at computer parts
you have to put them in and get them working haha

[Edited on September 26, 2005 at 11:44 PM. Reason : ]

9/26/2005 11:42:03 PM

ill snap some shots when i get out there this weekend

9/27/2005 7:06:13 AM

sorry I'm making such a big deal about your hard drive, anyway It just so happens that I to beat it to mass storage and seeing such a fine system with a single mediocre disk makes me cry emo tears

9/27/2005 7:22:57 AM

lol its ok
its tww
responses like that are expected
keep in mind that there is nothing holding me from buying a raptor 2 and setting up some kind of dual HD setup later down the road
and just installing all my games on the raptor
if you slave a hard drive that has windows installed on it would it still run windows from it?

9/27/2005 10:14:12 AM

no the master has to have OS you wanna run

9/27/2005 10:21:21 AM

hmmmm
ok
well is there some way to set up 2 HDs to both be sort of master drives or something
i dont know how you set up multiple HDs at all

9/27/2005 10:23:23 AM

you can have a primary master and secondary master...what are you trying to accomplish??

9/27/2005 1:33:52 PM

raptors are sata, so it doesnt matter.

9/27/2005 1:47:56 PM

that too

9/27/2005 2:04:28 PM

oh aight
w0rd
if i buy a raptor in the future i dont wanna have to reinstall everything
im just lazy thats all lol

9/27/2005 7:49:12 PM

when you have a dual core processor it means it can process twice the amount of data at one given time meaning the faster your hdd can dish out the data, the faster it will be processed, take this into the account that single core processors can still bottleneck at 7200rpm hdd seek time, means that one 160gb 7200rpm drive will be painfully slow compared to what a two drive 10000rpm raptor would do. two drives won't give you a performance increase over a single core processor, but it will when running in RAID and using a dual core processor.

i say return the hdd and get a raptor or two

[Edited on September 27, 2005 at 8:26 PM. Reason : .]

9/27/2005 8:25:42 PM

HP Black IDE DVD Burner Model DVD740vi - Retail

ABIT Fatal1ty AN8-SLI Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 SLI ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail

BFG Tech BFGR78256GTXOC Geforce 7800GTX 256MB GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Video

AMD Athlon 64 X2 4800+ Toledo 1GHz FSB Socket 939 Dual Core Processor Model ADA4800CDBOX -Retail

CORSAIR XMS 2GB (2 x 1GB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM DDR 400 (PC 3200) Unbuffered Dual Channel Kit System Memory Model Twinx2048-3200c2pt - Retail

(Raid 0) 2 x Western Digital Raptor WD740GD 74GB 10,000 RPM Serial ATA150 Hard Drive - OEM

Antec Performance I P180 Silver Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail


I just built that computer a couple weeks ago. Its bad ass and i get no choppyness with BF2 when i run it at 1600x1200 with MAX settings and MAX anti-aliasing. I love the new case too.

oh and photoshop and the likes open up in a matter of 2 or 3 seconds, along with any PSD file i'm working on. Great for productivity. I think the RAID 0 raptor drive i used goes a long way with the dual core.





[Edited on September 28, 2005 at 4:45 AM. Reason : pics]

9/28/2005 4:41:22 AM

Quote :

"when you have a dual core processor it means it can process twice the amount of data at one given time"

9/28/2005 4:48:34 AM

^^

now thats a computer

9/28/2005 8:24:09 AM

Quote :

""when you have a dual core processor it means it can process twice the amount of data at one given time""

It means it can run multiple tasks at one time with a performance hit and effeciently use multithreaded allplications.

9/28/2005 8:41:33 AM

dual rigs really are great investments (just be thankfull you dont have to deal any ASUS customer support like i did 4yrs ago)

[Edited on September 28, 2005 at 10:30 AM. Reason : j]

9/28/2005 10:19:49 AM

^^^ ya man, its phat. the motherboard is one of the best motherboards i've worked with. It came with a "Guru front mount lcd screen" that gives you all the temp stats, proc. speed, memory stats. etc...and has a simple button to reset CMOS so you no longer have to open the case to do it. Also comes with a neat vent with a 80mm fan in it to circulate cool air on the vid card.

9/28/2005 10:29:19 AM

http://cgi.ebay.com/AMD-Athlon-64-X2-4800-2000MHz-FSB-Socket-939-Dual-Core_W0QQitemZ6806684400QQcategoryZ80139QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

you dropped some crazy money on that thing...but damn, that is nice

9/28/2005 11:37:25 AM

Taken from this article on Anandtech: http://www.anandtech.com/storage/showdoc.aspx?i=2101

Quote :

"there is no place, and no need for a RAID-0 array on a desktop computer. The real world performance increases are negligible at best and the reduction in reliability, thanks to a halving of the mean time between failure, makes RAID-0 far from worth it on the desktop."

I'll agree that you'll get a performance increase moving from a 7200rpm to 10000rpm, but dual raptors are not worth it. Hard drives are still the bottleneck for most systems, yes. But I don't think it was worth it for him to get a faster hard drive. I rather him save a few bucks and get a bigger flat panel so that he gets real benefit out of his graphics card.

9/28/2005 12:31:29 PM

well i already use a 24" widescreen LCD so i'd say the money i spent on a second raptor has been far worth it.

9/28/2005 12:40:38 PM

im thinking about getting a 40GB 10k rpm for my OS and BF2. only ~$110.

seems worth it.

9/28/2005 12:52:05 PM

next thing for me to buy is a second LCD monitor
u ppl can talk all the shit you want but if the day comes i buy a game with horrible loading times on my setup ill buy a raptor or faster HD at that point in time and put it in

[Edited on September 28, 2005 at 2:17 PM. Reason : ]

9/28/2005 2:15:44 PM

I've got a 10k raptor in my dell and I can say without a doubt that I'm always one of the first to load.

Makes it nice because I don't have to wait for some noob to die in the jet before I get to keep it the whole round

9/28/2005 2:40:07 PM

when i played BF vietnam i sucked at the jets
and the helis
lol
i was more of an infantry tank person

9/28/2005 4:13:37 PM

that anandtech test was done on a single core processor, and i would never suggest RAID-0

not to mention you can through out all the SYSMARK overall (3d/2d content creation and Office) benchmarks since they have nothing to do with hard drive speed and a person with dual raptors i guarantee you isn't concerned with anything else than gaming and the general speed of read/write access to the hard drive for faster load times.

i'd like to see a new test with dual-core, i would be willing to bet the difference between a single raptor and a dual raptor setup would be more apparant.

back to the original sentiment was that one 10,000rpm would be faster than one 7200rpm drive, whether he buys two is up to his wallet.

Golovko nice rig


[Edited on September 28, 2005 at 8:31 PM. Reason : .]

9/28/2005 8:24:59 PM

^thanks

9/29/2005 4:53:18 AM