do you even read anything savage says or do you just look at him as anti-liberal and reject it?

9/28/2005 12:33:00 AM

the scary thing is that whether or not THABIGL is trolling, I know someone who thinks in this very manner.

9/28/2005 12:34:22 AM

i know MANY people who think like this

9/28/2005 12:34:43 AM

yet you act like we're some kind of wacko group of morons

we love our country, at least

9/28/2005 12:35:50 AM

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"do you even read anything savage says or do you just look at him as anti-liberal and reject it?"

I gave him a try, but then I realized he was just an attention whore trying to sell me sleep number beds and diet pills.

9/28/2005 12:36:33 AM

^^you love your personal understanding of this country

9/28/2005 12:37:01 AM

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"yet you act like we're some kind of wacko group of morons"

IF IT LOOKS LIKE A DUCK

9/28/2005 12:38:45 AM

AND QUACKS LIKE A DUCK

9/28/2005 12:42:28 AM

o<

9/28/2005 12:42:55 AM

^^ QUACKS A BIT TOO OFTEN TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS



[Edited on September 28, 2005 at 12:44 AM. Reason : .]

9/28/2005 12:43:25 AM

what is ramadan again?

I forget.. is it another one of those terrorist holidays?

9/28/2005 12:45:59 AM

ahahaha

i'm picturing osama and sadaam driving around the beach, arguing about the parking, and complaining about the "tourists", without a hint of irony, as if they are locals because they show up at their condo 4 times a year....but they've owned it since the mid 80s

terrorist holiday

9/28/2005 1:00:38 AM

^SEE! I KNEW THERE WAS A LINK BETWEEN SADDAM AND OSAMA@!!!!WW#@!11

9/28/2005 1:07:19 AM

^^ That made me laugh

9/28/2005 1:11:48 AM

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"a quick search shows this article on the front page of micheal savage's site"

Might as well appear in Pravda then.

9/28/2005 2:08:27 AM

The thing that makes me laugh most is MathFreak's first post in this thread. He, supposedly the intellectualist, calls someone a "big girl" as an insult, and I roll in the floors, laughing my ass off.

9/28/2005 4:36:59 AM

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"This is the further de-Christianizing of America, further moving us towards world-view HUMANISM regardless of the best efforts of the compassionate conservatives."

as a christian conservative, i welcome the move towards humanism and accept it as part of the biblical prophecy foretold by the book of Revelation. A secular world brings us closer to the ultimate judgment day, and eventually the defeat of Lucifer. This is a good thing. Hang in there, because dealing with hedonists and anti-religious folks can be tiresome. Thats why I don't normally like to say too much around here. People are much too quick to hate, and the internet is an ineffectual medium in terms of changing minds, hearts, and spiritual beliefs.

but anyways.

9/28/2005 4:44:38 AM

A decent enough point, if you're serious, but there's different schools of thought on the matter, many of which say we should fight hte encroachment of noncrhristian ideals with every ounce of resistance we have. Sitting back and waiting passively for the world to end could be construed...badly.

9/28/2005 4:47:57 AM

^ Great, so you'll be going down the same road the turrrists did then.

Plz to see your kid blow himself up in a couple decades.

9/28/2005 7:59:06 AM

A literal interpretation of Revelations as a guide to ogvernment policy.

hoooooooooo...

9/28/2005 8:04:09 AM

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"tell me, what religion were we founded on? have we had any non-christian presidents? sure some have been better than others, but while it is not run by christianity, our country does have a very important christian tradition"

And this explains your reasoning that Christians are being discriminated, or shall I say, persecuted?

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"We cant pray in school, but we can celebrate RAMADAN now. I for one wont any attention to a holy day for a religion which justifies some forms of terror"

You can celebrate Christmas too!!!!
By the way, us Christians haven't necessarily been the kindest of people either (Pat Robertson for a recent example).

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"freedom OF religion not freedom FROM religion"

Islam is a religion you dumb ass, yet you want to keep it away.

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"You're a fool if you don't recognize that we were built on a rationalist tradition, the Enlightenment's response to the centuries of superstition and all the baggage that came with it. Searched the Constitution for the following terms: "God" - 0 appearances "creator" - 0 appearances "Jesus" - 0 appearances "Christian" - 0 appearances"

I think we have our winner.

9/28/2005 8:41:38 AM

Stop the presses!

An Islamic advocacy group is asking for a House resolution recognizing Ramadan! What's next, a Christian group wanting to recognize Easter?

She's trolling - she makes it sound like it's emanant, when in reality it's not even up for a vote - it's barely on the radar (except in her own mind).

But, whats wrong with wishing Muslims a happy Ramadan? We have an Easter egg hunt on the Whitehouse lawn every year. Why not wish good will to all sincere members of faith (or atheists for that matter)?

Fringe Islamic groups support terrorism in the same way that fringe Christian groups support racism.

Here is a link to the proposed resolution:
http://capwiz.com/cair/callalert/index.tt?alertid=8054916&type=CO

9/28/2005 10:06:00 AM

Humanism is bad?


...


Odd.

9/28/2005 10:30:33 AM

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"Sitting back and waiting passively for the world to end could be construed...badly."

the founding fathers of Christianity (that would be the apostles and shit, not ben franklin and his posse) all thought they would see the "end times" and what not

paul and the other "smart" ones had to encourage them to actually go back to fishing and shit

9/28/2005 10:43:00 AM

i demand that congress recognize the religious traditions of those who believe in the flying spaghetti monster!

9/28/2005 10:49:21 AM

i was touched by his noodly appendage

9/28/2005 10:52:21 AM

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"the founding fathers built this country on the traditions of christianity and good moral values"

How long can we go along justifying every decision based on what "the founding fathers" intended. They intended a lot of things that most people don't agree with:

1) Women not being allowed to vote
2) Restricting the power of the general public to vote (most people are not well informed so they can't make good decisions) - electoral college
3) Restricing the voting power of non-whites

The founding fathers were smart guys but not all of their ideas were built for the globalized, melting pot world that we live in. Relgious issues of the time in government were Anglican Vs Catholicism or some other Christian variant, at least in America.

Integrating into our culture everyone who comes here is the true strength of America. Doing anything that encourages Muslim or other ethnic/religous groups to not be a part of our society will ultimately cause conflict.

[Edited on September 28, 2005 at 11:07 AM. Reason : blah]

9/28/2005 11:03:39 AM

exactly. the founding fathers were genocidal, racist, sexist, classist bastards. They drove out the original inhabitants of this land, brought in the inhabitants of africa as slaves, and then proceeded to prance around like they owned the place. Sure, I'm glad we have america... kind of... but no matter how long we've been here, the founding fathers were not the sort of people we should be holding up as heroes.

That said, I have some questions for THABIGL, even though it's obvious for you to use one ounce of logic when thinking (or unless you're a really good troll, which I think is more possible):

1.) You do know that students can pray all they like in school, right? The prayer must be student-organized, and that's the only rule. Anyone, including administration and faculty, is quite welcome to pray on school grounds, so long as the prayer is student organized and doesn't interrupt normal school activities.
2.) If we shouldn't recognize islamic holidays because the people who attacked us on 9/11 are muslims, what does that mean about christian holidays, given that timothy mcveigh was a christian? Adolf Hitler was a christian, too. Does that not, by your logic, mean that we should shun christianity?

9/28/2005 12:08:51 PM

American History isn't very peachy.

Thats probably why its not taught properly.

9/28/2005 12:42:00 PM

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"A decent enough point, if you're serious, but there's different schools of thought on the matter, many of which say we should fight hte encroachment of noncrhristian ideals with every ounce of resistance we have. Sitting back and waiting passively for the world to end could be construed...badly."

Well I think it depends on what you mean by the word "fight." Not that sometimes I don't wanna just hit someone in the jaw for being a horrible human being, or a bunch of people for being well-organized horrible human beings. I'd favor more "resistance" than "fight." We do have the ability to resist secularism, and ultimately continue our lives as Christians in an increasingly Humanistic world. But from a prophetic standpoint, there's very little we can do anyways to thwart the end. I see your point though, and agree. I didn't mean to sound like i meant "waiting passively" but i totally see where that could have come from.

Anyways, we already see the rolled eyes, the verbal lashings that people get here merely for being a Christian; now i realize that the suspect fringe has found a home on this board, and that most are really just sort of spineless weenies in real life, but how long until their mindset becomes a mainstream reality? If people feel this way now towards us, what will the future hold? Well, it's already been written.

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"A literal interpretation of Revelations as a guide to ogvernment policy."

i'm not talking about government policy. if anything, it's social movement. And it's not being used as a guide so much as a list of clues that, when compared to what happens today, raises some red flags that should be considered.

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"the founding fathers were genocidal, racist, sexist, classist bastards."

and yet somehow they pulled their head out of their ass and started a country that allows for people like you to spit on their grave 200 years after their deaths. awesome.

9/28/2005 1:05:19 PM

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"and yet somehow they pulled their head out of their ass and started a country that allows for people like you to spit on their grave 200 years after their deaths. awesome."

I would agree it is spitting on their graves if they felt bad for owning slaves or killing the Native Americans or not letting a lot of the population vote. That would be like making fun of W's drug problem after he kicked the habit and regrets it.

However, these people felt that what they did was totally correct and proper. We now know those people were wrong on some issues. They were not perfect and many of our traditions are not made for a large non-Christian minority.

We can't keep putting everything through the filter of WWTFFD.

9/28/2005 2:42:17 PM

I still can't get over putting a negative connotation behind secularism and humanism.

9/28/2005 2:52:20 PM

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"and yet somehow they pulled their head out of their ass and started a country that allows for people like you to spit on their grave 200 years after their deaths. awesome."

exactly, people like me: white, land-owning, middle-to-upper-class men. You're absolutely right.

9/28/2005 2:56:18 PM

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"i know MANY people who think like this"

as to the first post.


and i love the title, Congress to make US recognize Ramadan. last time i checked the congress couldn't make free living americans "recognize" anything.

i mean so they cancel school an extra day, close the Post Office 2 more times, and companies start selling Ramadan cards.

big whoop de do.

9/28/2005 4:02:07 PM

9/28/2005 4:17:05 PM

what was wrong with the days when we just had christmas? what was so wrong with that?

the overly sensitive humanists just like breaking traditions

9/28/2005 4:57:02 PM

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"tell me, what religion were we founded on? have we had any non-christian presidents? sure some have been better than others, but while it is not run by christianity, our country does have a very important christian tradition"

Deism in the hizzouse

9/28/2005 7:29:34 PM

^shhhhh, everybody knows thomas jefferson was as christian as the day is long

^^uhm, so you hate Jews too? because you know, they're not so big on the whole CHRISTmas thing...

THE BIG GIRLLLL

[Edited on September 28, 2005 at 7:31 PM. Reason : EVERYBODY GET YOUR ROLL ON EVERYBODY GET YOUR MOTHERFUCKING ROLL ON]

9/28/2005 7:30:14 PM

what is wrong with just christmas is that when the gov't says to a federal employee, hey, you're not going to work because it's a national holiday (christmas). Then when he/she says, i won't work on hanukkah because that is my holiday he/she has to take a sick day off. the jew would have to suffer because of his/her religion, no?

the point is, what makes one religious holiday better than the next? or why is one religion established as more federally observed than the other?

does that make sense to you?

[Edited on September 28, 2005 at 8:02 PM. Reason : intriguing]

9/28/2005 7:54:10 PM

hahhahaha holy shit I can't believe the fucking ignorance of this thread

I'm out

this seriously might be the worst thread I've ever read on here.

Wow.

[Edited on September 28, 2005 at 8:02 PM. Reason : holy fuck]

9/28/2005 7:59:08 PM

are you talking to me?

9/28/2005 8:03:09 PM

Dont even begin to take it seriously, plz

9/28/2005 8:26:35 PM

Well if Big Girl ends up being a troll, then consider me pwnt, because I honestly don't know what to make of it.

Then again, trolling for 170 posts is pretty sad, too.

9/28/2005 8:34:19 PM

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"Then again, trolling for 170 posts is pretty sad, too."

Wow, I actually agree with boonedocks.

9/28/2005 10:05:03 PM